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I want Ikuto more in da naw episodes, i want amu and ikuto. ;3 And amu and tadase. And i dislike Rikka. It was more fun in da old episodes. D: ~
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Sorry if this sounds rude, but the whole show isn't about Ikuto and I'm tired of hearing people complain about wanting him to come back. Maybe he'll be back when the anime gets back on the manga storyline.
Posted 1/30/10
Not to be mean, but tell us something we don't know, or haven't heard yet. There's more to the show than Ikuto; get over it

*Agrees with moonst4r*
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*agrees with Aimz and moonst4r*

Yeah I mean there can be alot of Rimahiko on the way for Rimahiko fans to cheer you up! Man, I'm sooo obsessed with Rimahiko....-_-lll atleast I'm not the only one.....heheh
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Yeah, Rimahiko
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The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.
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-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/
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trumpace wrote:


-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/


easy its about following ur dreams and wat u truely would like to b etc the whole romance aspect is nothing more than food coloring (not necessary but makes it look better)
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trumpace wrote:


-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/


Shugo Chara is a story about Amu and her journey to find her true self. All of the characters play an important role, but the entire series is not centered on only Ikuto and the romance. I mean, Ikuto and the other characters certainly make it better by giving plot and character development, but they aren't the only things in Shugo Chara. If you people only watch it for Ikuto and Amuto, then you are missing out on a lot.
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uhohimdead wrote:


trumpace wrote:


-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/


easy its about following ur dreams and wat u truely would like to b etc the whole romance aspect is nothing more than food coloring (not necessary but makes it look better)





-KamioRika- wrote:


trumpace wrote:


-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/


Shugo Chara is a story about Amu and her journey to find her true self. All of the characters play an important role, but the entire series is not centered on only Ikuto and the romance. I mean, Ikuto and the other characters certainly make it better by giving plot and character development, but they aren't the only things in Shugo Chara. If you people only watch it for Ikuto and Amuto, then you are missing out on a lot.


that's what YOU guys think ~G_G
basically, that's the general summary.
in reality, the story won't even grow if there's no ikuto. or amu. that's fangirls power to you -.-~
i mean, imagine if you replace ikuto with some other gayish guy character. or the only main character is amu herself, no ikuto.
i can guarantee you PP will shut down the shugo chara project with a cliffhanger or something (like how many unsuccessful titles did)

and the genre of the manga is science fiction and romance.
now dare you say that the romance aspect is just to spicing things up hmm?

i didn't become 2 years of shugo chara stalker for nothing yknow >_> i did a LOT of observations
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trumpace wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:


trumpace wrote:


-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/


easy its about following ur dreams and wat u truely would like to b etc the whole romance aspect is nothing more than food coloring (not necessary but makes it look better)





-KamioRika- wrote:


trumpace wrote:


-KamioRika- wrote:

The whole show isn't about Ikuto and Amuto you know.


if it isn't about amu and ikuto, then what is it? [aside from xeggopenheart-insertsparklysoundeffecthere-]
every single major arcs and plots in the story revolves around those two characters.

sad to say this, but other than those scenes which aren't involving them are nothing more than spices to make the story longer :/


Shugo Chara is a story about Amu and her journey to find her true self. All of the characters play an important role, but the entire series is not centered on only Ikuto and the romance. I mean, Ikuto and the other characters certainly make it better by giving plot and character development, but they aren't the only things in Shugo Chara. If you people only watch it for Ikuto and Amuto, then you are missing out on a lot.


that's what YOU guys think ~G_G
basically, that's the general summary.
in reality, the storyif there's no ikuto. or amu. that's fangirls power to you -.-~
i mean, imagine if you replace ikuto with some other gayish guy character. or the only main character is amu herself, no ikuto.
i can guarantee you PP will shut down the shugo chara project with a cliffhanger or something (like how many unsuccessful titles did)

and the genre of the manga is science fiction and romance.
now dare you say that the romance aspect is just to spicing things up hmm?

i didn't become 2 years of shugo chara stalker for nothing yknow >_> i did a LOT of observations


first off.... science fiction ur joking right? what do u mean "won't even grow" the first few parts after the start was all bout utau and her songs ikuto was a lackie but but yes he got his spotlight u should b grateful instead of ticked. If he's so important y did he leave? wat if he was replaced with another guy equivilent to him? ppl r dumb they'll coop

lets think bout this in another way wat if SC moves to another girl with multiple eggs and another handsome guy... would u complain?

ur right fans and their idle threats to stop reading yes yes a force to b feared i think thats retarded if i were to write a book i wouldnt care wat ppl thought id reserve the right to kill off (in any way) any character but then again ppl r dumb and PP is a company made of ppl...

i do dare say... if it didnt have romance few ppl (namely girls) wouldnt read but the real purpose is about amu finding her true self or else wats the point of her chara
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eh was it science fiction or fantasy... something in between @_@ - i can't tell the difference really loll-
and did i ever say that i was ticked o_o? im always patient in waiting for ikuto's arc >_> eventhough that means there are tons of fillers that i hafta watch.

anyway i believe ikuto leaving is to give this kind of urge for fangirls to want him more. and even if he's being replaced with another similar guy, the fact that the story still revolves around amu and ikuto will not change. why? because there'll be triangular love. and girls love triangular love. but this have been achieved by tadamuto thingy anyway, so i guess PP won't be doing the same thing over again -which is kinda disappointing-

and about

lets think bout this in another way wat if SC moves to another girl with multiple eggs and another handsome guy... would u complain?

no duh i wouldn't. it's just the same as having amu not being amu by name and ikuto not being ikuto by name. it's only a swap of physical appearance, but their characters remain the same :/ and when fangirls love a character, they look inside the character's personality too, not just physical appearance. [if ikuto has a personality as a retarded flirty gay guy with roses covering his body, i can tell tadase will win the 'your most fav guy character in SC!' poll. no wait, maybe kukai instead of tadase.]


ur right fans and their idle threats to stop reading yes yes a force to b feared i think thats retarded if i were to write a book i wouldnt care wat ppl thought id reserve the right to kill off (in any way) any character but then again ppl r dumb and PP is a company made of ppl...


that's you. PP's PP. oh wait, have you even tried in writing something as thick as the twilight book yourself?
i myself as a previous fanfic writer needs supports from my reader to be able to write something till the end. don't you think, aside from the income issue, that PP too needs the support from their fans to get them to be motivated and continue the shugo chara manga?
that's why im kinda confused why you call these fans dumb since they ARE essential with the continuation of the story :/

picture yourself writing a whole load of chapters for a novel. or manga whatever.
each page takes you at least 3 freakin hours, not including editing, revising, searching for references, evaluating etc [total would probably 7 hours for manga, 5 hours for fic.]
and when you're done making a chapter [let's say it took you the whole week to do that], you posted it somewhere on the other side of the internet and waiting for some comments.

3 days later your first comment came and it says: 'this sucks to death man.' and same goes with a few comments later. only a few would say 'nice keep going' for the sake of being nice.
now will you still continue with your project? you'll start thinking that it's just a waste of time no?
and you'll either start out a new project or quit for the rest of your life.


i do dare say... if it didnt have romance few ppl (namely girls) wouldnt read but the real purpose is about amu finding her true self or else wats the point of her chara


if there's no romance, you wouldn't even know what is 'shugo chara' when someone ever happen to ask you that question.
what im trying to say is: shugo chara won't even be well known by anime otakus out there if romance isn't present.
do you really think that everyone will be reading tha manga if PP is to show only the part of amu catching X eggs and all? pfftt there are tons of other similar manga out there who uses sprites and people transforming into magical hero or something.
sure, the concept's good, about finding your trueself -i was first attracted to shugo chara because of this concept- but that doesn't live long if the story's kept monotone no?
that's why PP also put another concept of 'oblivious girl & cool guy rival love' into the series, which somehow become much more dominant than the original concept because it has more conflicts and unexpected events.

okay im done counter arguing. that's pretty long shit i wrote o_o
you better counter my argument too after i went through all the trouble in writing this super long paragraphs :P
god this is fun XD~

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ya its fantasy or, if there is a difference, then magical girl. it sounded like u were ticked and ya u got the arc but now its done... (if u start saying "i know but i want more of that" all ill say is "typical human behavior"

triangular love? whos the third party? if u r refering to tadase then thats dumb ive always known he wouldnt get amu simply cuz its too one sided. we r comparing a childish, dog loving, innocent, prince type of guy to a mature, cat guy, whos past is nothing but a sympathy story, and on top of that a bad boy type not to mention a musician too. i dont mind the whole romance thing but make it so the readers dont automatically no who would win ( yes i know there were tadase lovers but i knew it wouldnt matter)

i didnt mean in terms of personality i meant totally different people ( i guess the guy could b a bad boy and the girl could b the unsure type) but bottomline its not amu its not ikuto its the character architype u like thats all. if im not mistaken Fruits Basket ended in a similar way.

thats the thing the fans r basically running the show all PP's doing is drawing as concrete proof, theres no surprise and it makes me feel stupid. Supporting is one thing, expecting "oh if it doesnt happen like this ill quit reading" is another.

id say something to the effect of "screw u id like to see u try this" sure i may adapt other elements that ive been saving but i wont break to their will id rather continue out of spite just to prove i can make it work (i attribute this to my mom i got her stubborness from her)

actually i would know... i didnt start reading it for the romance and im not alone, no i got sucked in for due to the whole "finding one's true self" that was interesting to me (i also made me think of a game called Persona 4 which is like SC's polar opposite and if u by chance know wat im talking bout then i know there r several conceptual differences) the one sided romance just made me angry and annoyed at the idoicy that afflicts the world. i do think the whole magical girl/ x egg wasnt entirely needed but at least kept things from getting too mundane. as for the romance i said it before i dont mind just make it so its not painfully obvious
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ill be lying if i'd say the same thing i do want him back but as long as theres a plot in the story (which there is NOT right now) i wouldent really mind him being gone and all
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okay just got back from school. imma reply to every single paragraph of yous so bear with it :3


ya its fantasy or, if there is a difference, then magical girl. it sounded like u were ticked and ya u got the arc but now its done... (if u start saying "i know but i want more of that" all ill say is "typical human behavior"


apparently, maybe i don't really have those 'typical human behaviour'. i didn't expect anything anymore about SC for having a good plot ever since ikuto got hypnotized and all -meh so cliche dood - i only followed the series to prove whether my ending prediction's correct :3
-andddd they're all correct. including ikuto's disappearance looking for his dad. no im not lying the only thing's not accurate is my prediction of ikuto coming back to the town after idk how many years later and meet amu again. or something like that.-

and did i sound i was ticked? lol i was smiling and grinning the whole time whenever i give you my reply! guess i have to use emoticons more often hurhurhur G_G~


triangular love? whos the third party? if u r refering to tadase then thats dumb ive always known he wouldnt get amu simply cuz its too one sided. we r comparing a childish, dog loving, innocent, prince type of guy to a mature, cat guy, whos past is nothing but a sympathy story, and on top of that a bad boy type not to mention a musician too. i dont mind the whole romance thing but make it so the readers dont automatically no who would win ( yes i know there were tadase lovers but i knew it wouldnt matter)


meh i'm too lazy to retype the same thing over again. scroll down to my reply on your last paragraph. 's the same to this one.


i didnt mean in terms of personality i meant totally different people ( i guess the guy could b a bad boy and the girl could b the unsure type) but bottomline its not amu its not ikuto its the character architype u like thats all. if im not mistaken Fruits Basket ended in a similar way.


what are you saying? ikuto IS bad boy and amu IS the unsure type of girl. :mellow:
but i think i get what you mean.
of course, like how i said previously:

[if ikuto has a personality as a retarded flirty gay guy with roses covering his body, i can tell tadase will win the 'your most fav guy character in SC!' poll. no wait, maybe kukai instead of tadase.]

and yeah what im trying to imply here is that: plot progresses along with the leading characters' types
if shugo chara is to be lead by some gayish guy, dyou think the story will survive?

are you getting confused here? or am i confusing you? or you didn't read all of my reply D:? -sad-


thats the thing the fans r basically running the show all PP's doing is drawing as concrete proof, theres no surprise and it makes me feel stupid. Supporting is one thing, expecting "oh if it doesnt happen like this ill quit reading" is another.


that's just PP's style of creating manga: good concept, cliche plot. [read some other PP's works. they're all the same.]
it's about people's likings actually.
the SC anime still being aired up until now is probably because of fan demands like how you said it.
from what i know about anime productions, you can't back off in stopping the show if a huge demand is being shoved on the company. that's like the basic rule of being a mangaka and anime producer. [living prooves: naruto, FMA, etc.]
so i can't really blame PP for this. nor can i blame the fans as well.
mangakas are entertainers no? and they're there to entertain readers no? they're just doing their job. i wouldn't get surprised if you got sick of the story because of the lack of the surprising events and all. i can tell maybe PP's sick too.
but on the other hand, there's also a possibility of PP still enjoying their career and just wanted to continue with the story because of the supports of the fans, no matter what.
so you can't really say that fans r basically running the show all PP's doing is drawing as concrete proof

also on Supporting is one thing, expecting "oh if it doesnt happen like this ill quit reading" is another.
generally speaking, these kind of fans are the 'not faithful fans'.
reality speaking, mostly the real hardcore fans are consisted of the 'not faithful' kind of fans.
ironic right? take death note if you think im just bluffing. ever since L died, DN fans decreased like whoa.
but i personally like those kind of fans more. at least, they still have the brain to imagine what's coming up next and how it should have happened for the better, instead of some brainless fans who still goes 'woohoo!' even if the story's screwed up already.


id say something to the effect of "screw u id like to see u try this" sure i may adapt other elements that ive been saving but i wont break to their will id rather continue out of spite just to prove i can make it work (i attribute this to my mom i got her stubborness from her)

it's good to have this kind of attitude, i applaud you :3
but don't just NATO. show me the real thing if you have time :D

oh and the fact that you say: i wont break to their will id rather continue out of spite just to prove i can make it work
i don't entirely agree with you for this one.
from what i believe, when you write something to share to the world, you don't WRITE to yourself. you're sharing it and you try to be better in making a story.
i don't know about you, but i treat my readers as good advisors, no matter how harsh they could talk.
if they said: 'this sucks like hell', then i'll try to find out what's wrong with my story and how should i improve it.
then, i'd re-draft the whole plot and probably find a new one that hopefully suits the taste of my readers better :3
i'll keep on trying till i get the type of comments that i want. then i'll feel good about myself for being able to achieve the thing that i want :3
-of course when i do this, i'm not entirely obsessed in pampering their wants. it's still my story. i have my own plot. i just furnish them for the better referring to their comments.-

but...
in my eyes i see you seeing your readers as enemies :mellow:
i don't feel like advising you since you're like... 5 years older than me?
it's rude to advise someone older in my country, so i'll keep my mouth zipped now :3



actually i would know... i didnt start reading it for the romance and im not alone, no i got sucked in for due to the whole "finding one's true self" that was interesting to me (i also made me think of a game called Persona 4 which is like SC's polar opposite and if u by chance know wat im talking bout then i know there r several conceptual differences) the one sided romance just made me angry and annoyed at the idoicy that afflicts the world. i do think the whole magical girl/ x egg wasnt entirely needed but at least kept things from getting too mundane. as for the romance i said it before i dont mind just make it so its not painfully obvious


i also said it here:

sure, the concept's good, about finding your trueself -i was first attracted to shugo chara because of this concept- but that doesn't live long if the story's kept monotone no?
that's why PP also put another concept of 'oblivious girl & cool guy rival love' into the series, which somehow become much more dominant than the original concept because it has more conflicts and unexpected events.


and about the romance being painfully obvious, ever heard about the phrase of 'common sense is not so common afterall?'
meaning, for some people the ending IS obvious [i'm one of those peeps don't worry],
but for some people it is NOT so obvious [like kids who just got exposed into reading mangas] and maybe PP's having their target market to this kids instead of some iknowhowitwillenddammit teens [like me. yeah.]
so you can't really complain about it being so 'obvious' for you and me :/

but anyway, knowing that doesn't change the fact that the plot still revolves around ikuto and amu :3



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