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who else is sad you cant watch elfen lied?!
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Posted 12/7/06

wetto wrote:

it is one of my favs

hehe black magic "bautiful" lol


Ok i will be the first to admit it i have had trouble spelling that word since i was 6.
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hey, its lusulpher, from imdb. yeah, i was there when you said that too him. i'm the same guy rms4wwf....?

just thought it was interesting too see the same people use different boards mate.
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meh elfen lied isnt really all that good. I mean it was alright but wasnt really sad or anything. I mean there were a couple nasty things in it but thats about it. The sadest part was the one with the dog, but it was also happy because they got what was comeing to them in the end. Not really a wroth while serries in watching. It would be ok if you were bored or something i guess.


i thought it was good...of all the anime i've watch, it's probably the saddest IMO. There's so many awful events throughout the entire show. If you're not really interested in the plot and the way the characters are then you wont really be that moved by it. But if you get really into it from the beginning then you're done....your emotions will get the best of you
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elfen lied is probably the most underrated anime. ever. it's in my top 3. although it would've been great if it followed the plot of the manga
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Plot-cliche catgirls, with amnesia, AND deadly superpowers, and traumatic pasts because of secret government experiments(one with split personality), some of them even try to become normal humans(never heard that one before*sarcasm*).

Plotholes here and there(manga fills them in I suppose, except for NOT PUTTING BOMBS IN ALL OF THE DICLONIUS), soap opera execution(I love you's back and forth, then nothing).
Everytime someone goes for a walk, they run into a one-on-one fight fight with a personal enemy. Yet the military and police can't find one person with PINK hair on a small island, in ONE town!
You can predict that every fight is going to end in nudity(shameless fanservice also). Romantic arcs seem rushed or incomplete()

Repetitive-everything. Boob grabs, amputations, music, dialogue.

Ending-badass chooses not to fight final battle because of something horrible she did to the main character(who also has amnesia). She survives fight(unexplained), but is now good and will return to ones she loves. Sappy, but weak at best.

I recommend this to emo/goth kids who like overrated magically-themed things. World of Warcraft players, especially.

If you want to see the same genre and artsyles but with substance, try Gantz, or Tenjou Tenge. It really is an insult to the anime industry. This gives casual viewers (too polite to say it), the opinion that animes are slutty, unsophisticated cartoons. That is the last thing I want.


Right off the bat....WTF is with plot cliche's....EVERYTHING IS A PLOT CLICHE. anykind of plot or story or event that you can think of has a 99.99999999% chance that it's already been done serveral times over. And if you do come up with one then there's a 100% that no1 will be interested in it at all

With the logic you used to disect Elfen Lied you could ruin any anime b/c what i just read was pure ignorance.

As for the Fan service, it's not near as heavy as you're blowing it out to be. yes in the opening scene she is fully nude, but with all the crap that's goin on....sex was the last thing on my mind. it's not meant to be in a fan service way.....if a naked girl ripping people apart gets you off, then there's some serious problems with the viewer. Any other fan service, is meant to lighten the mood a little bit because EL can be very dramatic at times.

To help out with some of your plotholes....first off, they are only working with 13 eps to cram alot of events and character backgrounds in....things will get left out.
So of course, fights will break out everytime a Diclonus steps outside. AND WHERE ARE ALL THESE FIGHTS THAT ENDED IN NUDITY???? i only remember one and that was at the beginning. The General wanted to end mankind, so he was largely responsible for the lack of police and military enforcement.

As for the end, The battles that could be fought were already fought....the only real thing left was final atonement for misguided Lucy. If there's one person that can provide warmth and love to a person as alone as Lucy then you will see a complete change in attitude. The reason there's such a contraversy about Lucy in the end was because the anime only covers about 60% of the Manga....so they could continue with a second season if they wanted...but i doubt that they will.

I know i'm vague in certain areas b/c i try my best not to include spoilers

....so my final words to you is to actually watch an anime, try to understand it and answer your own questions before you start criticizing it.

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Posted 12/7/06

rms4wwf wrote:

hey, its lusulpher, from imdb. yeah, i was there when you said that too him. i'm the same guy rms4wwf....?

just thought it was interesting too see the same people use different boards mate.


Whoa. Welcome to CR, mate.

Me thinks a flamewar is about to start. I'm so excited!
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uh oh, a flame war. i'm outta here mate.
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trust me...bible black has some very heavy sex scenes in it...my "m8's" made me watch one whole ep &#/%&%# NEVER AGAIN SO SICK AND TWISTED "ANIME" HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE


elfen leid is only 13 ep..use same questions on hellsing and boa same will happen.

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suollac2 wrote:

Plot-cliche catgirls, with amnesia, AND deadly superpowers, and traumatic pasts because of secret government experiments(one with split personality), some of them even try to become normal humans(never heard that one before*sarcasm*).

Plotholes here and there(manga fills them in I suppose, except for NOT PUTTING BOMBS IN ALL OF THE DICLONIUS), soap opera execution(I love you's back and forth, then nothing).
Everytime someone goes for a walk, they run into a one-on-one fight fight with a personal enemy. Yet the military and police can't find one person with PINK hair on a small island, in ONE town!
You can predict that every fight is going to end in nudity(shameless fanservice also). Romantic arcs seem rushed or incomplete()

Repetitive-everything. Boob grabs, amputations, music, dialogue.

Ending-badass chooses not to fight final battle because of something horrible she did to the main character(who also has amnesia). She survives fight(unexplained), but is now good and will return to ones she loves. Sappy, but weak at best.

I recommend this to emo/goth kids who like overrated magically-themed things. World of Warcraft players, especially.

If you want to see the same genre and artsyles but with substance, try Gantz, or Tenjou Tenge. It really is an insult to the anime industry. This gives casual viewers (too polite to say it), the opinion that animes are slutty, unsophisticated cartoons. That is the last thing I want.


Right off the bat....WTF is with plot cliche's....EVERYTHING IS A PLOT CLICHE. anykind of plot or story or event that you can think of has a 99.99999999% chance that it's already been done serveral times over. And if you do come up with one then there's a 100% that no1 will be interested in it at all

With the logic you used to disect Elfen Lied you could ruin any anime b/c what i just read was pure ignorance.

As for the Fan service, it's not near as heavy as you're blowing it out to be. yes in the opening scene she is fully nude, but with all the crap that's goin on....sex was the last thing on my mind. it's not meant to be in a fan service way.....if a naked girl ripping people apart gets you off, then there's some serious problems with the viewer. Any other fan service, is meant to lighten the mood a little bit because EL can be very dramatic at times.

To help out with some of your plotholes....first off, they are only working with 13 eps to cram alot of events and character backgrounds in....things will get left out.
So of course, fights will break out everytime a Diclonus steps outside. AND WHERE ARE ALL THESE FIGHTS THAT ENDED IN NUDITY???? i only remember one and that was at the beginning. The General wanted to end mankind, so he was largely responsible for the lack of police and military enforcement.

As for the end, The battles that could be fought were already fought....the only real thing left was final atonement for misguided Lucy. If there's one person that can provide warmth and love to a person as alone as Lucy then you will see a complete change in attitude. The reason there's such a contraversy about Lucy in the end was because the anime only covers about 60% of the Manga....so they could continue with a second season if they wanted...but i doubt that they will.

I know i'm vague in certain areas b/c i try my best not to include spoilers

....so my final words to you is to actually watch an anime, try to understand it and answer your own questions before you start criticizing it.



Just the sheer volume of cliches used back-to-back is enough to make me vomit. And the sad delivery(they tried much too hard to be cute, to the point of sleazy jokes, and somehow it wasn't sexy). And of course, the classic ecchi cliche-sexy girl lives with you, while parents are absent, in EL they try to pull this off as a tragic background, but it's see-through to any ecchi lover.

Heavy Fanservice-I wasn't referring to the opening scene(the music and choice of shots gave it a sexy sophistication), I'm referring to the redundant nudity and "Nyu is soooo innocent, all she does is sexual lolicon things" bit. That is used in the crappiest ecchis to replace romantic development.

The dramatic times were all found in Akira, scene for scene. just replaying a classic, isn't going to win my favor.

Plotholes that big are criminal, even for a 13 episode series. FLCL crams in more character development and background in 6! Elfen Lied never what is driving the Diclonius mutation, what is going on with the other Diclonius, and how the Diclonius situation will be handled. It just cuts to cliffhanger and calls that and end.

Fights ending in nudity-correction, and/or gore that never kills a character.-all of them.
One of the girls doesn't lose a limb it is going to end with the girls gettting their clothes ripped off(kinda like a hentai fight scene).

Wait, I just read the wikipedia description of the manga compared to the anime, now I KNOW this anime is crap! The manga has rational structure and characterizations(as rational as this insanity can get).

Check for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfen_Lied
I bet the manga answers these plotholes and gets rid of those ackward character setups. Maybe it keeps the sense of danger, and makes me NOT laugh at it.
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I admit, I thought of Akira when I saw Elfen Lied. Slight differences in ending, but I think the ultimate weapon on the lose thing is a bit too cliche. I thought Nyuu pissing on the floor was kinda sexy jk
Yeah, Nyuu forcing Kouta ti touch her boob was total fanservice.
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Why can't I have vectors?


your not sexy enough for my body.


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Yeah it doesn't work for me either
the first episode made me want to see so much more =O
I was quite pissed off at that actually -_-;
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Posted 12/9/06
Elfen lied is pretty good but I have no idea wtf happened in the end
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Elfen Lied <-- really good anime
Lucy,, that poor girl
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