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Controversy FINAL FANTASY XIII!!
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Posted 2/18/10 , edited 2/18/10


More than HALF of the game is like this, not only the first six hours. Stop trying to make the argument that it's just for a while, people.

Wow, so your're going to compare games like Mario and Sonic to FFXIII and claim that it is okay for it to be linear because games made nearly two decades or so ago, when being liner was just part of gaming because it was in it's early stage, were linear yet popular.... Really...? That's you're argument...? Mario games are "popular" basically because they're a classic and easy to get into. No one is going to pay 40 bucks to watch an Italian plumber jump on mushrooms in 2010.

This is FFXIII, not FF. If they wanted to branch off and do something new then they should do that other than tagging this to be the next in the series. Bottom line, there's no excuse for it. Its not the end of the world, but SE should know that not everyone is a **** sucking retard and gonna fork over their money for a dungeon. There is nothing wrong with linear games, but to go from open world to linear then expect 60 bucks? That's a no. I shouldn't have to play 30 hours of a game before it turns into what it's supposed to be.
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I don't care about price or it being linear, it's a good game.
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not every game can be perfect. i don't think that FF13 is a complete fail, i still enjoy playing it. the things i didn't like weren't huge plus i think it makes it up on certain areas. the way i see it...FF13 is going to be a stepping stone for future RPG's that will be even more epic and i am just gonna go along for the ride cuz someone will eventually make the game that will shake every major gamers right down to their very core. i firmly believe that some genius out there will be able to fuse the strong storylines like from the classic RPGs and the technological advancements of the modern day...and i seriously cannot wait for that to happen!
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True enough no game can be perfect...but considering it is a FF game from SE (obviously) it should be of a very good standard either way. I don't agree that it's a stepping stone at all. It's not like nobody has thought of using good graphics with a good game. FF13 is a complete fail for an RPG released by such a company. Especially since it was so hyped up, saying things like it would be the best in the series to date.
I've heard the game is actually pretty linear until the final levels. People not actually make it that far is the beginning is so crap.

and to "KylotheGuy" who says he is going to buy it, not caring whether it's linear or about the price, aren't you just being a fanboy? Not being rude or anything..what makes it a good RPG? Everyone is just impressed by the graphics. If the game did not have the name "Final Fantasy" in it, they probably wouldn't even get up to half the sales they did.
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True enough no game can be perfect...but considering it is a FF game from SE (obviously) it should be of a very good standard either way. I don't agree that it's a stepping stone at all. It's not like nobody has thought of using good graphics with a good game. FF13 is a complete fail for an RPG released by such a company. Especially since it was so hyped up, saying things like it would be the best in the series to date.
I've heard the game is actually pretty linear until the final levels. People not actually make it that far is the beginning is so crap.

and to "KylotheGuy" who says he is going to buy it, not caring whether it's linear or about the price, aren't you just being a fanboy? Not being rude or anything..what makes it a good RPG? Everyone is just impressed by the graphics. If the game did not have the name "Final Fantasy" in it, they probably wouldn't even get up to half the sales they did.


I much disagree that it's not a complete fail from SE. If they released it as a different title and was reasonable price (maybe 20 bucks), it would be a nice game to blow a few hours on until you got the REAL FFXIII was out.

And that's the problem with a lot of people. They say, "well it's a FF game" and that confirms their purchase. NO company has me wrapped around their finger enough to to hand over my hard earned dollars just for a title. FFXIII turned quickly from a sale to a rent&return for me because of that, they can get their couple of dollars from fanboys who'll eat any rotten meat they throw at them.



Hm, you seem very delusional. I laugh at the notion that the 13th installment in a series would be a stepping stone. Oxymoron much?


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I don't care about price or it being linear, it's a good game.


I hope to god you never have any sort of power in your life. That's a poor decision to make when you haven't played the game yet. But fanboys will be fanboys.
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GuardianOMS wrote:

More than HALF of the game is like this, not only the first six hours. Stop trying to make the argument that it's just for a while, people.

Wow, so your're going to compare games like Mario and Sonic to FFXIII and claim that it is okay for it to be linear because games made nearly two decades or so ago, when being liner was just part of gaming because it was in it's early stage, were linear yet popular.... Really...? That's you're argument...? Mario games are "popular" basically because they're a classic and easy to get into. No one is going to pay 40 bucks to watch an Italian plumber jump on mushrooms in 2010.

This is FFXIII, not FF. If they wanted to branch off and do something new then they should do that other than tagging this to be the next in the series. Bottom line, there's no excuse for it. Its not the end of the world, but SE should know that not everyone is a **** sucking retard and gonna fork over their money for a dungeon. There is nothing wrong with linear games, but to go from open world to linear then expect 60 bucks? That's a no. I shouldn't have to play 30 hours of a game before it turns into what it's supposed to be.


I did say that I wasn't going to play this game for it's dungeons... I know that they will suck. But I don't judge weather a game is entirely good or bad until after I play it. I honestly don't have high hopes for this game, but I still followed it just in case that it may have changed (Which it didn't to much). If you really want to criticize it so badly I think you should wait till you have actually played it, and then criticize all you want. Till you do so I'd appreciate it if you stop complaining.

Btw, People still pay the 40 - 60 buck to play those games (some people pay even more), and there are even new ones being made in the same fashion. Also me emphasizing in the 2010 was to point out that there is no set style of gaming anymore. There are still old school games, and even completely new ideas in many games now. You're argument is like saying FPS games are behind the time, but they are currently the most common of this generation of gaming. You know what... those have been around since the PS and N64 maybe they should stop making those type of games too (I'm honestly getting tired of them...).
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Kitez wrote:



True enough no game can be perfect...but considering it is a FF game from SE (obviously) it should be of a very good standard either way. I don't agree that it's a stepping stone at all. It's not like nobody has thought of using good graphics with a good game. FF13 is a complete fail for an RPG released by such a company. Especially since it was so hyped up, saying things like it would be the best in the series to date.
I've heard the game is actually pretty linear until the final levels. People not actually make it that far is the beginning is so crap.

and to "KylotheGuy" who says he is going to buy it, not caring whether it's linear or about the price, aren't you just being a fanboy? Not being rude or anything..what makes it a good RPG? Everyone is just impressed by the graphics. If the game did not have the name "Final Fantasy" in it, they probably wouldn't even get up to half the sales they did.





GuardianOMS wrote:


Kitez wrote:



True enough no game can be perfect...but considering it is a FF game from SE (obviously) it should be of a very good standard either way. I don't agree that it's a stepping stone at all. It's not like nobody has thought of using good graphics with a good game. FF13 is a complete fail for an RPG released by such a company. Especially since it was so hyped up, saying things like it would be the best in the series to date.
I've heard the game is actually pretty linear until the final levels. People not actually make it that far is the beginning is so crap.

and to "KylotheGuy" who says he is going to buy it, not caring whether it's linear or about the price, aren't you just being a fanboy? Not being rude or anything..what makes it a good RPG? Everyone is just impressed by the graphics. If the game did not have the name "Final Fantasy" in it, they probably wouldn't even get up to half the sales they did.


I much disagree that it's not a complete fail from SE. If they released it as a different title and was reasonable price (maybe 20 bucks), it would be a nice game to blow a few hours on until you got the REAL FFXIII was out.

And that's the problem with a lot of people. They say, "well it's a FF game" and that confirms their purchase. NO company has me wrapped around their finger enough to to hand over my hard earned dollars just for a title. FFXIII turned quickly from a sale to a rent&return for me because of that, they can get their couple of dollars from fanboys who'll eat any rotten meat they throw at them.



Hm, you seem very delusional. I laugh at the notion that the 13th installment in a series would be a stepping stone. Oxymoron much?


KylotheGuy wrote:

I don't care about price or it being linear, it's a good game.


I hope to god you never have any sort of power in your life. That's a poor decision to make when you haven't played the game yet. But fanboys will be fanboys.


I imported it and have been playing it a lot. So I'm not basing it on fanboy futuristic thought. I like it. It's a good game in my opinion.

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My apologies then, you're not only a fanboy but a super fanboy. If you are willing to say a linear rpg is good then something has gone wrong. The ENTIRE point of rpgs is to be open world. If you're going to settle with going in a straight line and killing monsters than you might as well pick up an action or platforming game. Which is to say, what FFXIII is.

You're playing the game to play FF, not an rpg, that seems to be the problem that people don't understand. Yea, it can be a good game if you wanna compare it to any other linear action title. But FF is not supposed to be a linear action title, it's supposed to be an rpg in the slightest sense of the word.
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what the hecks going on what happened to the good old days and im talking about a couple years ago were expensive games were like 50 bucks and unless ur a fan of FF ur most likely not even gonna pick up XIII...and weres all this next gen stuff everyones talking about ...the only thing thats different is the graphics and even then u need a 1080i tv .... i mean damn ....im not dissing the systems i have a ps3 and a wii ...but really .....next gen ....what happened to all the vertical stuff i heard of as a kid ....

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Well Its going to come out in march 9 to stores like best buy and futurshop for 59.99$.
I do intend of buying it cuz I luv Final fantasy. By looking at some videos of some ffXIII gameplay video, the graffics are pretty cool to me.
The way of fighting is the same of the older ff games, but not like the psp version, Final Fantasy Crisis core.(I have the game and finish it)

This is, for me, the best ever to play cuz its not only chosing the power or what so ever, but at the sametime you can move while fighting and randomely chose any power you want or magic...
If the Final Fantasy XIII Was like the crisis core, its would be totaly awsome, plus the graffic would make a WOW!!!

I really like the FFXII, just the way of fighting it would had been more fun if they did like crisis core. But is really fine game.
( I love when its the movie part cuz thats what ff fan luv to see. The Graffics are the best ever made!!!)

here the USA gameplay of FFXIII viideo; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gei3L-RAz34&feature=related
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I was really hyped up and gonna buy it, now you people are making me worried of wasting my money and a disappointment...
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Its definitly not as good as it was thought to be. They were lazy in the development and expected the brand name to make it sell, which it will.
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change is constant. Live with it you sissies!
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@GuardianOMS

So your complaining that a game is bad, that you have not played? Right so your judgment on a map of an area. No direct play experience and mudslinging on a game (and people who like it) you don't actually have any experience in playing is valid.

If you people want the title buy it, if you don't, don't. As for hard earned money.. If you can't afford a video game once in awhile I think you need to reexamine some of your life choices.

And yes you might consider me an FF fan boi but w/e? I like a game series and I will buy things because I enjoy it. I don't mind sharing with others that the Final Fantasy series has quite a few great titles. (FFVI my favorite SNES)

Are you upset with the series that reinvents itself every title. Is that it? Maybe you are venting your frustration on others who aren't utterly jaded.
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why is nearly everybody arguing? you either like the game or don't. For those people who like the game the way it is good for them for those who don't then don't try to shove your own morals down other peoples throat. Some people like linear maps and others don't we all have a right to our own opinions....for those that hate final fantasy XIII then why are you even posting on this board let alone arguing with others? Don't buy this game find another one that fits your needs and move on it's not that hard to fo really

I can't really say i'm a fan of final fantasy, they all seem to have a great story plot ( a thing many games are missing today) but i really don't like their battle system. as for this game particular i'm still debating if I should get it or not

btw no games perfect they all have their share of flaws, there will always be people complaining about the lack of this or too much of that, and this is no different. being a gaming designer can't be easy so lets cut them some slack. And this is NOT an argument simply a statement so please don't argue with me there are much more important things in life to argue about then a game desgin anyway :P

now that i've saif ALL that i'll go away now

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