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Posted 3/7/10

Yei wrote:


amersfoort wrote:


Yei wrote:

It's what Che Guevara said, we need to end monopoly capitalism and imperialism. Real democracy needs to be implemented, end oligarch/polyarchy government systems in the US and other superpowers. So many countries are poor, corrupt and have no chance of development because of imperialism, most of which comes from the US. Dictators and horrible, corrupt governments are installed and supported, democracy and development is blocked and everyone in the country suffers. The World Bank system that keeps poor countries in debt endlessly is also ridiculous. Haiti's debt was erased, so I don't know why they shouldn't do that with other desperately poor nations as well. Also, make sure countries who signed the Geneva conventions and say they abide by international law really do (*coughUScough*).

Make efforts to end mass ignorance and obliviousness in first world nations, so, reforming education systems, ending propaganda news systems, limiting meaningless distractions (entertainment industries), getting people more involved in real democracy and caring for each other. Everyone in developed nations is so isolated, everyone's goals are centered around themselves, making themselves happy and successful, materialist and consumerist ideals only, we need a cultural revolution to end that.

In summary, the most important things I think would be eliminating monopoly capitalism and imperialism, and implementing true democracy throughout the world and then I think it would be very possible to make a much better world. I think people should be more optimistic, every century of human history has been more civilized and just than the last, now we at least claim to have principles we should follow. We may not actually follow those principles, and it is still a horrible unjust world, but things used to be much, much worse.


Your Idea is pretty big, but how can this be acomplished?



It's pretty big, but it's basically just saying we need to implement democracy in the world. How can we implement democracy? The only way any democracy can work is to end ignorance and keep everyone informed, and once people have the truth, I'm sure they won't tolerate it. So ending ignorance would be the first step, and everything else should follow. Almost all the media in the US is controlled by a few corporations that run the media like a fascist or totalitarian state would, so if we can push to have a media revolution that ends corporate control and properly informs people, that would be a good start.


Indeed ignorance is not a bless but a curse, the media revolution that you are searching for is already taking place, it is called the internet, no one can control the internet not even China :D

Yes education is a good start, but how will we start education in country's like Vietnam or Kongo, the I'm talking about bettering the entire world, not just the 1st and 2nd world country's.

But your idea is good bravo bravo
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Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10

amersfoort wrote:

Indeed ignorance is not a bless but a curse, the media revolution that you are searching for is already taking place, it is called the internet, no one can control the internet not even China :D

Yes education is a good start, but how will we start education in country's like Vietnam or Kongo, the I'm talking about bettering the entire world, not just the 1st and 2nd world country's.

But your idea is good bravo bravo :D


Well what matters the most is that the people in first world countries (the countries that control the world) are informed. If all of Ethiopia fully understood why they were poor and the politics behind everything and wanted it to change, it wouldn't matter. If Americans all knew, it would matter. In fact, getting Americans informed is the most important thing since the US is the leading superpower, so them being informed is worth more than someone in Luxembourg being informed.

Once people start pushing for democracy in the first world nations, they would have the power to change the policies that control the world and things would get better from there.
Posted 3/7/10

Yei wrote:


amersfoort wrote:

Indeed ignorance is not a bless but a curse, the media revolution that you are searching for is already taking place, it is called the internet, no one can control the internet not even China :D

Yes education is a good start, but how will we start education in country's like Vietnam or Kongo, the I'm talking about bettering the entire world, not just the 1st and 2nd world country's.

But your idea is good bravo bravo :D


Well what matters the most is that the people in first world countries (the countries that control the world) are informed. If all of Ethiopia fully understood why they were poor and the politics behind everything and wanted it to change, it wouldn't matter. If Americans all knew, it would matter. In fact, getting Americans informed is the most important thing since the US is the leading superpower, so them being informed is worth more than someone in Luxembourg being informed.

Once people start pushing for democracy in the first world nations, they would have the power to change the policies that control the world and things would get better from there.
When China is buying up more US public debts in bonds? While China itself is known for obstructing democracy via information blockade on the internet? And you still think that the US is a superpower?
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Posted 3/7/10

DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


amersfoort wrote:

Indeed ignorance is not a bless but a curse, the media revolution that you are searching for is already taking place, it is called the internet, no one can control the internet not even China :D

Yes education is a good start, but how will we start education in country's like Vietnam or Kongo, the I'm talking about bettering the entire world, not just the 1st and 2nd world country's.

But your idea is good bravo bravo :D


Well what matters the most is that the people in first world countries (the countries that control the world) are informed. If all of Ethiopia fully understood why they were poor and the politics behind everything and wanted it to change, it wouldn't matter. If Americans all knew, it would matter. In fact, getting Americans informed is the most important thing since the US is the leading superpower, so them being informed is worth more than someone in Luxembourg being informed.

Once people start pushing for democracy in the first world nations, they would have the power to change the policies that control the world and things would get better from there.
When China is buying up more US public debts in bonds? While China itself is known for obstructing democracy via information blockade on the internet? And you still think that the US is a superpower?


US still is the superpower. Regardless of the future.
Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10

Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

When China is buying up more US public debts in bonds? While China itself is known for obstructing democracy via information blockade on the internet? And you still think that the US is a superpower?


US still is the superpower. Regardless of the future.
A future that the rest of the humanity is sharing.
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Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10

DomFortress wrote:

A future that the rest of the humanity is sharing.


That's really interesting Dom.
Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10

Yei wrote:



That's really interesting Dom.
It won't be if it's not based on science, and that's putting it objectively.
Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10
Massive quotes again.


US still is the superpower. Regardless of the future.


Wow, some foreteller you are. Quoting someone without providing the slightest evidence/explanation/proof.. what's the point man.
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Massive quotes again.


US still is the superpower. Regardless of the future.


Wow, some foreteller you are. Quoting someone without providing the slightest evidence/explanation/proof.. what's the point man.


Foreteller? I'm not foretelling anything, what are you talking about?

You need proof that the US is the leading superpower of the world? I can't imagine someone wouldn't know that unless they were completely ignorant. US has the richest and biggest economy, has the strongest military power, is the biggest imperial force and is stable politically. This has been common knowledge for a long time now...
Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10

Yei wrote:


stareye_pink wrote:

Massive quotes again.


US still is the superpower. Regardless of the future.


Wow, some foreteller you are. Quoting someone without providing the slightest evidence/explanation/proof.. what's the point man.


Foreteller? I'm not foretelling anything, what are you talking about?

You need proof that the US is the leading superpower of the world? I can't imagine someone wouldn't know that unless they were completely ignorant. US has the richest and biggest economy, has the strongest military power, is the biggest imperial force and is stable politically. This has been common knowledge for a long time now...
How can a nation on the verge of declaring bankruptcy still be the richest and biggest economy? When only 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of the total US assets. While its military force grew too big to effectively counter terrorism. And the US government is simply broken due to the fact that US politics just too expensive for career politicians to win a campaign and get reelected for next term.
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Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10

DomFortress wrote:

How can a nation on the verge of declaring bankruptcy still be the richest and biggest economy? When only 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of the total US assets. While its military force grew too big to effectively counter terrorism. And the US government is simply broken due to the fact that US politics just too expensive for career politicians to win a campaign and get reelected for next term.


It's pretty simple Dom, let's go back and study some basic facts about superpowers and countries in general.

-US has the biggest GDP in the world; richest country and biggest economy.
-Distribution of wealth is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.
-Fighting terrorism is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.
-Corruption in the government is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.

It's a pretty well-known fact that the US is the world's leading superpower.
Posted 3/7/10

Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

How can a nation on the verge of declaring bankruptcy still be the richest and biggest economy? When only 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of the total US assets. While its military force grew too big to effectively counter terrorism. And the US government is simply broken due to the fact that US politics just too expensive for career politicians to win a campaign and get reelected for next term.


It's pretty simple Dom, let's go back and study some basic facts about superpowers and countries in general.

-US has the biggest GDP in the world; richest country and biggest economy.
-Distribution of wealth is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.
-Fighting terrorism is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.
-Corruption in the government is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.

It's a pretty well-known fact that the US is the world's leading superpower.
Which power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

USA! USA! USA!
Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/7/10
Is that even possible? Since we as humans are likely to ruin everything we get our hands on, to create a better world we first have to respect it, right?
Posted 3/7/10 , edited 3/8/10

LosingOrbit wrote:

Is that even possible? Since we as humans are likely to ruin everything we get our hands on, to create a better world we first have to respect it, right?
I agree, which is why I brought it down to a moral choice, while respecting the nature of our humanity in accordance to how our brain works(hey, as far as I consider it's the thought that counts ).

So it ultimately comes down to you making a choice between two outcomes, with either our humanity or capitalism as the sole benefactor.
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Posted 3/8/10

DomFortress wrote:


Yei wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

How can a nation on the verge of declaring bankruptcy still be the richest and biggest economy? When only 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of the total US assets. While its military force grew too big to effectively counter terrorism. And the US government is simply broken due to the fact that US politics just too expensive for career politicians to win a campaign and get reelected for next term.


It's pretty simple Dom, let's go back and study some basic facts about superpowers and countries in general.

-US has the biggest GDP in the world; richest country and biggest economy.
-Distribution of wealth is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.
-Fighting terrorism is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.
-Corruption in the government is irrelevant for it to be a superpower.

It's a pretty well-known fact that the US is the world's leading superpower.
Which power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

USA! USA! USA!


/facepalm

Wow, this guy is something else.
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