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I'm seeing a lot of old school American comic book here too.

Story arcs are likely to be shorter with more loose threads to be picked up later.

I'm actually expecting the Skrugg arc to end in a few more episodes and the next one to involve Joey fending off Dr. Minami's attempts to capture Heroman.

Later we will likely have an arc where Nike returns having united the remnants of the Skrugg under his command.

We are looking at American style Superhero Storytelling with a Japanese twist.


I'm having a lot of fun with it
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I'm picking up that Joey is an orphan that helps take care of his/her Mom, but for some reason secretly masquerades as a boy. Guided by his/her father spiritually until Joey's refurbished toy becomes possessed by the power of alien technology, and now his/her father can guide and watch over Joey from a much closer standpoint.

I'm hoping to find out more about Joey and his/her father, and I'd like to see how HEROMAN's powers evolve as the show progresses.


This is a children's title aimed at an American audience. Joey is a guy. Same sex relationships aren't something that you see in American children cartoons. Besides, he uses the male form of "I" to refer to himself.

Other than that I agree that it's obvious that the only family that Joey has left is his grandmom.


Same sex is not condoned but Joey and Lina are just friends. Joey avoids and dodges every attempt Lina makes at forming "that" kind of relationship. The photo of Joey's dad is clearly that of Joey and his/her father. Without any doubt, this is a form of foreshadowing that is traditional in western television. Also, it's not obvious that Joey's Grandma is the "only" family. They can throw in lots of plot twists to help in the evolution of Joey's character. A long lost relative, the emergence of Joey's father(unclear if his father is dead/missing). Anything can happen. But if you would like a closer understanding of Joey's behavior with lina I suggest glance at the 80's cult classic "Just One of The Guys". Which is a high school comedy about a girl masquerading as a boy in a High School.
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Mmm, I'm not too picky when it comes to anime. I watch pretty much everything. Even if Heroman isn't going to be anything spectacular I'm still going to enjoy it. It's cheesy and fun. It has a pretty basic plot but that means it just has that much more potential. Whether it's used or not really won't make a difference for me, though I would like to see some wicked action packed battles.


No matter who gets hurt? Even if one or more of the main characters (and this includes Will and Nick) were to get killed? Even if the entire world (if not just America, where this show is set) were to become a post-apocolyptic wasteland (with all various tropes applied thereto)?




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I love the show and watch it every week. Joey's progressing nicely into a stronger character. Lina is getting some recognition. Psy is still dependable. And Will is getting paid back. *evil laugh*

It's like an American Saturday morning cartoon. Light and fun.


Don't be too sure. In this week's episode, we just saw Nick invoke the "With Great Power Comes Great Insanity" trope. In other words, he's not "Brainwashed" anymore, but he's still "Crazy".

With all this in mind, we're already seven episodes in, and it may already be heading into "Darker and Edgier" territory, which I'm hoping doesn't happen (it hasn't become clear yet). Furthermore, Dr. Minami tells "Misuta Purejidento" (he calls him "Mr. President" in English for some reason) that "The United States of America must remain number one". That sounds almost (repeat: almost) like a stereotypical foreign portrayal of America to me (and no, the "abundance" of American flags doesn't count). That said, regardless of who licenses it, I'm a little wary about how an English dubbed (TV broadcast) version might handle that one.

In any case, I'm really, really, REALLY hoping for a happy ending to this show, and by that I mean an ending that doesn't do the "victory has a price" thing (including but not limited to a "pyrric" [sp?] victory). Whatever happens though, I imagine that poor Denton is going to be kicking himself for "causing" (as he perceives it) the alien invasion...



Sounds like American Mentality to me. America does deem them selves number one, and the politicians will do anything they can to make sure they have the power to back it up. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see this.. And yes I am an American. I think they Represent the American government and advisers very well.
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Hahaha.. possibly, maybe, likely, but I think it's more likely that the photo is that of Joey and his/her father. We'll have to wait and see, but I don't think that is of his/her mother. Mostly, cuz there is reason that has presented itself for why he has no more recent photo of his/her mother. Likely, it's of Joey and his/her father because it would be the most recently or the last photo of them together. This is my best explanation.

As for the masquerading as a girl part.. He isn't doing it as a form of self expression. Clearly, he is running or hiding from something terrible that happened in his past. If done right, any female can blend in as a boy and not alert any immediate suspicion. Also, watch the film I suggested and you will see for yourself.

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As for the masquerading as a girl part.. He isn't doing it as a form of self expression. Clearly, he is running or hiding from something terrible that happened in his past. If done right, any female can blend in as a boy and not alert any immediate suspicion. Also, watch the film I suggested and you will see for yourself.



Like I said, not "normal" and thus not fodder for a children's title aimed for the US. Also with all the physicals that students have to go thru and documentation that has to be handed in, the teachers, school nurse and administrators are the first to know of a gender discrepancy.

But we'll see as the show progresses.

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As for the masquerading as a girl part.. He isn't doing it as a form of self expression. Clearly, he is running or hiding from something terrible that happened in his past. If done right, any female can blend in as a boy and not alert any immediate suspicion. Also, watch the film I suggested and you will see for yourself.



Like I said, not "normal" and thus not fodder for a children's title aimed for the US. Also with all the physicals that students have to go thru and documentation that has to be handed in, the teachers, school nurse and administrators are the first to know of a gender discrepancy.

But we'll see as the show progresses.



Should I remind you that this is about a kid that has an emotional bond with a toy that can change into a large robot? Which is mankind's only hope against an alien invasion? Can you spar me the symantics now?
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Stan Lee created the character



Stan Lee is pretty much going to give us a straight and narrow as they come story.


IE: Joey is a boy

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Heromans Awasom i have the comics :p i love how thay got the japansse to animate it rather than shitty amarcans stuideos

p.s sorry for spelling
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Ugh, Not another Giant Robot and kid saves world routine, Gigantor, Voltron, (Voltus V), Johnney Sokko and Giant Robot, The Iron Giant,, Stan Lee, Enough Allready, Gee you had a competition in reality TV to find the next superhero, Why something like super monkey hyper force go?
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This is why I don't create theories of perceptions on particular series because I'll probably develop some sort of bias that'll most likely get involved in a heated debate or flame war.
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Ugh, Not another Giant Robot and kid saves world routine, Gigantor, Voltron, (Voltus V), Johnney Sokko and Giant Robot, The Iron Giant,, Stan Lee, Enough Allready, Gee you had a competition in reality TV to find the next superhero, Why something like super monkey hyper force go?


Well it is working well for EVANGELION and Studio Khara right now. So don't knock "the boy and his robot /mecha saves the world" trope.
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I can deffinatly see the Marvel in this but it is funny to the sterotypical American comic clothing (puffy vests leather and foot ball jersies) but it does seem kind of wierd with all the American stuff and Japanese voices me and my friends are woundering why this hasnt been localized yet because Stan Lee is affliated with it so why isnt it here in the US?
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I love mecha animes, not the title " Heroman " sounds lame, sounds like something you see on a cereal box. And the mecha you cited is VASTLY different than a toy that gets that gets " Zapped " by lightning and becomes a giant, intelligent obedient robot.

But I'll watch it, If I like it, I'll make a retraction.
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IMHO, I believe that HEROMAN is somewhat of a tribute. There are several hidden inspirational satires within, and it's fun to look for them and discover them. Stan Lee appearing in every episode is fun at first but there is much more than that. I suppose this must be some kind of tribute to Western America culture. Clearly, this show wasn't meant to be something new and fresh, and it's more of a glance back at the past couple of decades in comics, manga, anime from both asian and western cultures.

It's an enjoyable view for me I see satire from 80's H.S. Comedies like "Back to the Future", "Just One of the Guys","3 O'clock High", and "Better Off Dead". I see satire from classic anime and manga such as "Mazinger","Grandizer", "Giant Robo", "Digimon", "Gigantor","Tekkaman","FLCL","Macross"

They leave alot to speculation from start to finish. In some anime you would have seen some internal dialog within the first minute that would detail the kind of personality that Joey has. In the style of western animation there is no internal dialog. You can and have no choice but to guess what kind of kid Joey is. You can speculate that he is really a GIRL. That HEROMAN has feelings and a mind of his own that is linked to Joey. That these feelings are derived from the memorahbelia inside Joey's room. Memories of his/her father.

I'm picking up that Joey is an orphan that helps take care of his/her Mom, but for some reason secretly masquerades as a boy. Guided by his/her father spiritually until Joey's refurbished toy becomes possessed by the power of alien technology, and now his/her father can guide and watch over Joey from a much closer standpoint.

I'm hoping to find out more about Joey and his/her father, and I'd like to see how HEROMAN's powers evolve as the show progresses.


LOL WTF dude. Joey is a guy
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