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I am still waiting on DIgs the so called Christian who is quick to teach everyone the wonders about Christianity but yet supports every eltist, imperialist thing the USA does. If he can just justify this in the bible that it is no problem to kill innocent civilians, occupy countries and install dictators who are cruel to their civilians but serve the interests of the USA is something God would teach in the bible. Many Christian support this and you can hear them preach it on your right wing radio and TV stations. Makes them look like blood thirsty hypocrites and no different from the muslims they hate.
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yuna_265 wrote:

i cant watch it D= forgot my youtube account XD
Here's the website that host all the research documents about the incident.


thanks!!
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Well you cant really say much this world is messed up either way its war, can't be stopped. <---- personal opinion
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Trunks19 wrote:

I am still waiting on DIgs the so called Christian who is quick to teach everyone the wonders about Christianity but yet supports every eltist, imperialist thing the USA does. If he can just justify this in the bible that it is no problem to kill innocent civilians, occupy countries and install dictators who are cruel to their civilians but serve the interests of the USA is something God would teach in the bible. Many Christian support this and you can hear them preach it on your right wing radio and TV stations. Makes them look like blood thirsty hypocrites and no different from the muslims they hate.


Elitist imperialist thing? Has any Middle Eastern territory been annexed into the US? No. Has any regimes and dictators who threaten US and international security been removed? Yes. This was a war situation, I never said killing innocents is right, and if that's true these men should be tried with murder. However, everyone fails to see the big picture within the context. This video is clearly cut and paste propaganda against the US. Why not listen to what those in charge have to say about this? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/11/gates-defends-soldiers-iraq-shooting-video-says-footage-lacks-context/ Many Christians support the war because we support defense and national security. Murderers and terrorists should die, they threaten and take innocent lives all day long. It's the right thing to do if you want to save lives. And Christians don't hate Muslims, Jesus never said to hate those who don't believe Him as God's Son.
Posted 4/13/10

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Trunks19 wrote:

I am still waiting on DIgs the so called Christian who is quick to teach everyone the wonders about Christianity but yet supports every eltist, imperialist thing the USA does. If he can just justify this in the bible that it is no problem to kill innocent civilians, occupy countries and install dictators who are cruel to their civilians but serve the interests of the USA is something God would teach in the bible. Many Christian support this and you can hear them preach it on your right wing radio and TV stations. Makes them look like blood thirsty hypocrites and no different from the muslims they hate.


Elitist imperialist thing? Has any Middle Eastern territory been annexed into the US? No. Has any regimes and dictators who threaten US and international security been removed? Yes. This was a war situation, I never said killing innocents is right, and if that's true these men should be tried with murder. However, everyone fails to see the big picture within the context. This video is clearly cut and paste propaganda against the US. Why not listen to what those in charge have to say about this? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/11/gates-defends-soldiers-iraq-shooting-video-says-footage-lacks-context/ Many Christians support the war because we support defense and national security. Murderers and terrorists should die, they threaten and take innocent lives all day long. It's the right thing to do if you want to save lives. And Christians don't hate Muslims, Jesus never said to hate those who don't believe Him as God's Son.
Then can you kill someone with love and kindness, thus call it mercy killing? Thereby could that mentality justify the preemptive strike by the US with its leviathan force, when the history of Christianity is also one of murders via the Inquisition.

Also, your own source admitted that "The military has admitted to misidentifying the Reuters cameramen as insurgents." While he still failed to produce any real evidence that those "armed" individuals were indeed "terrorist insurgents". Not only that, when "Nearly every Iraqi household has a rifle or an AK. Those guys could have just been protecting their area," just who's being narrow-minded with the entirety of this situation provided by WiKiLeak, not the US military?

Finally, did the Apache Gunship got attacked by any of those 11 individuals during the entirety of this 38 minutes long operation? And were those said individuals attacking anyone in particular to be considered as a threat under Rules of Engagement? Just what's the truth, so help your God.

"Hatred leads to bias opinions, or do you think that compassion and understanding can result from hate?" -by me.
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wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Posted 4/13/10

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wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Could the fact that US troops open-fired and murdered civilians be a bias opinion?
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kakashi2 wrote:

wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Could the fact that US troops open-fired and murdered civilians be a bias opinion?


Well lets look at it logically. And judge this in an open non-biased manner.

First what facts do we have you two?
(help me out with this we are going to get to the bottom of it we need facts first. not sides.)

Example: did solders kill civilians. Yes...No? What happened at that moment...And what evidence do we have for it?
Was there any other factors involved from shooting in the back ground...or violence from ether sides? Other known evidence to bring to light that will aid in the case for ether side?
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Posted 4/13/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


kakashi2 wrote:

wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Could the fact that US troops open-fired and murdered civilians be a bias opinion?


Well lets look at it logically. And judge this in an open non-biased manner.

First what facts do we have you two?
(help me out with this we are going to get to the bottom of it we need facts first. not sides.)

Example: did solders kill civilians. Yes...No? What happened at that moment...And what evidence do we have for it?
Was there any other factors involved from shooting in the back ground...or violence from ether sides? Other known evidence to bring to light that will aid in the case for ether side?


i never said soldiers didnt kill civilians it is just everyone is getting off topic on things that are not the issue here, i do believe the soldiers killed civilians but i do not have any evidence that they killed them knowing they were civilians or if there was some reason the soldiers open fire
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Trunks19 wrote:

I am still waiting on DIgs the so called Christian who is quick to teach everyone the wonders about Christianity but yet supports every eltist, imperialist thing the USA does. If he can just justify this in the bible that it is no problem to kill innocent civilians, occupy countries and install dictators who are cruel to their civilians but serve the interests of the USA is something God would teach in the bible. Many Christian support this and you can hear them preach it on your right wing radio and TV stations. Makes them look like blood thirsty hypocrites and no different from the muslims they hate.


Elitist imperialist thing? Has any Middle Eastern territory been annexed into the US? No. Has any regimes and dictators who threaten US and international security been removed? Yes. This was a war situation, I never said killing innocents is right, and if that's true these men should be tried with murder. However, everyone fails to see the big picture within the context. This video is clearly cut and paste propaganda against the US. Why not listen to what those in charge have to say about this? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/11/gates-defends-soldiers-iraq-shooting-video-says-footage-lacks-context/ Many Christians support the war because we support defense and national security. Murderers and terrorists should die, they threaten and take innocent lives all day long. It's the right thing to do if you want to save lives. And Christians don't hate Muslims, Jesus never said to hate those who don't believe Him as God's Son.


Digs you talk about propaganda and cut and paste but you link me to Fox News. Are you being serious here? This is a laugh out loud moment are you saying Fox News isnt any kind of propaganda who doesnt do any cut and paste and sound bites? Please man what world are you living in dont be so damn daft. You say Christians support war because of defense what a big ass liar you are.

Your Christian country invaded Iraq who has done nothing to you, and secondly you never even declared war against Iraq instructed in your constitution so dont sit here and lie to me saying you are for defense sir. Defense is when SOMEONE ATTACKS YOU thus you respond Iraq never attacked you. Your just a blood thirsty lieing ass Christian who takes orders from Christians who lie to you about how non white people, third world countries, non christians thinks about you. Thats all you been doing is invading countries and lieing about it. Your religious teachers teach hate this is why you justify killing civilians. If you was such a peaceful Christian you would not justify it at all. Is it only bad when an Arab does it? Completely justifiable when a Christian does it? Please I am sick of you religious people especially Christians who act like they stand for peace but are the main ones dropping bombs on childrens heads. Did Jesus teach you this in your bible? So this is the way Jesus would act? Then shame on him and shame on you.
Posted 4/13/10

kakashi2 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


kakashi2 wrote:

wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Could the fact that US troops open-fired and murdered civilians be a bias opinion?


Well lets look at it logically. And judge this in an open non-biased manner.

First what facts do we have you two?
(help me out with this we are going to get to the bottom of it we need facts first. not sides.)

Example: did solders kill civilians. Yes...No? What happened at that moment...And what evidence do we have for it?
Was there any other factors involved from shooting in the back ground...or violence from ether sides? Other known evidence to bring to light that will aid in the case for ether side?


i never said soldiers didnt kill civilians it is just everyone is getting off topic on things that are not the issue here, i do believe the soldiers killed civilians but i do not have any evidence that they killed them knowing they were civilians or if there was some reason the soldiers open fire
Isn't that overgeneralizing without you providing evidence that proves your claim of everyone was going off topic is indeed true? Or could your belief is all the entitlement you need for you to assume everything without verifying with the facts?

Subsequently, just what kind of mentality/reasoning do you think that those Apache Gunship pilots were under? When you don't need a reason to act out on your entitlement that's based on a belief.
Posted 4/14/10
so much hate in this thread... wow i mean just WOW
Posted 4/14/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


kakashi2 wrote:

wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Could the fact that US troops open-fired and murdered civilians be a bias opinion?


Well lets look at it logically. And judge this in an open non-biased manner.

First what facts do we have you two?
(help me out with this we are going to get to the bottom of it we need facts first. not sides.)

Example: did solders kill civilians. Yes...No? What happened at that moment...And what evidence do we have for it?
Was there any other factors involved from shooting in the back ground...or violence from ether sides? Other known evidence to bring to light that will aid in the case for ether side?

Based on the materials published by WikiLead here, with the Pentagon publicly admitted that the authenticity of all materials been released being true. Yes, the US military murdered Iraqi journalists and possibly civilians on 2007, and tried to cover up the incident.

Here's the overview as well as the biggest piece of the evidence: a full 38 minutes long video recording from the camera of one of the Apache Gunship that was authorized to fire at 11 Iraqi individuals on that day, without them in any real threat of being attacked by those said individuals.
Posted 4/14/10

DomFortress wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


kakashi2 wrote:

wow its almost funny how much every ones comments are biased
Could the fact that US troops open-fired and murdered civilians be a bias opinion?


Well lets look at it logically. And judge this in an open non-biased manner.

First what facts do we have you two?
(help me out with this we are going to get to the bottom of it we need facts first. not sides.)

Example: did solders kill civilians. Yes...No? What happened at that moment...And what evidence do we have for it?
Was there any other factors involved from shooting in the back ground...or violence from ether sides? Other known evidence to bring to light that will aid in the case for ether side?

Based on the materials published by WikiLead here, with the Pentagon publicly admitted that the authenticity of all materials been released being true. Yes, the US military murdered Iraqi journalists and possibly civilians on 2007, and tried to cover up the incident.

Here's the overview as well as the biggest piece of the evidence: a full 38 minutes long video recording from the camera of one of the Apache Gunship that was authorized to fire at 11 Iraqi individuals on that day, without them in any real threat of being attacked by those said individuals.


it's war, we cover our asses to make ourselves look good, nothing new,nothing less. It has been that way for years and will never change. People are to stupid to know other wise and most do not care because we follow anything our government tells us and if we question we are evil and need to be punished or that the sense I am getting.
Posted 4/14/10 , edited 4/14/10
In all honesty, I've stopped caring about the affairs of war. It has been going on for so long to the point where it's just everyday news. The US isn't the only country who is guilty for such crimes, so seeing this isn't really surprising. We've seen it all throughout history after all.

Though I feel sorry for those who were killed, I cannot drag on it for too long.
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