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If It Was Once And For All Proven That There's No God...
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...So you're saying the only thing that prevents you from committing crime is god? No, Its more of the fear of getting sent to jail and being killed.
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i guess all it really comes down to is how important religion is to you and how much it effects your life. for some, religion may be important factor but they may have strong individual morals already.. but for others, they could rely on religion to input those morals on them instead.
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Thats what Kira thinks i guess
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Posted 5/28/07
First there would be shock. Then denial. Think of the many "deathblows" that science has delivered to religion. Philosophies have simply shifted "it's only a flesh wound!" I doubt that religion would go down without a fight, or atleast a difficult to disprove counter-argument.

However, if we are really facing this hypothetical coup de grace to religion, I still think that it would take a while for anything to actually happen. I predict that some extremists wouldn't budge an inch (ie. the Ku Klux Clan after the civil war, the Amish after the industrial revolution).

However, I think that religion would continue on. Christianity would probably continue on with a new set of philosophies remarkably similar to those of the band "The Polyphonic Spree". Look at religions like Confucianism; just being alone isn't enough to keep people from their philosophical "synchronized swimming".

Rambling on further, I also doubt that there will be a gunshot when religion dies. There won't be riots or a "moral apocalypse" (to quote M.C. Hawkings). The pious will just face the same battle that the atheists face every day. The whole thing will probably be really forgettable, and I'm sure there will be billions of people in a rush to forget.

I'm curious about what this deathblow might look like. I'm thinking:
1) A giant Christmas Card "I don't exist. Love, God" (the f**ked up ending)
2) Multiple deities were to show up and engage in a free-for-all above downtown Tokyo. (less of a solution to the religion thing and more of a problem)
3) The appearance of a superior extra-terrestrial lifeform. (Did God say that you were his favorite, too? Awkward!)
4) Dolphins suddenly discover Tivo and rise to become the dominant lifeform. (All Hail Lord Flipper!)
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gopherthegold wrote:

First there would be shock. Then denial. Think of the many "deathblows" that science has delivered to religion. Philosophies have simply shifted "it's only a flesh wound!" I doubt that religion would go down without a fight, or atleast a difficult to disprove counter-argument.

However, if we are really facing this hypothetical coup de grace to religion, I still think that it would take a while for anything to actually happen. I predict that some extremists wouldn't budge an inch (ie. the Ku Klux Clan after the civil war, the Amish after the industrial revolution).

However, I think that religion would continue on. Christianity would probably continue on with a new set of philosophies remarkably similar to those of the band "The Polyphonic Spree". Look at religions like Confucianism; just being alone isn't enough to keep people from their philosophical "synchronized swimming".

Rambling on further, I also doubt that there will be a gunshot when religion dies. There won't be riots or a "moral apocalypse" (to quote M.C. Hawkings). The pious will just face the same battle that the atheists face every day. The whole thing will probably be really forgettable, and I'm sure there will be billions of people in a rush to forget.

I'm curious about what this deathblow might look like. I'm thinking:
1) A giant Christmas Card "I don't exist. Love, God" (the f**ked up ending)
2) Multiple deities were to show up and engage in a free-for-all above downtown Tokyo. (less of a solution to the religion thing and more of a problem)
3) The appearance of a superior extra-terrestrial lifeform. (Did God say that you were his favorite, too? Awkward!)
4) Dolphins suddenly discover Tivo and rise to become the dominant lifeform. (All Hail Lord Flipper!)


yup
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lindork wrote:

Actually, I was raised without a concept of a god. What I meant was that I considered a concept of god, then gave that up. :)


ah interesting, okay.


gopherthegold wrote:

I'm curious about what this deathblow might look like. I'm thinking:
1) A giant Christmas Card "I don't exist. Love, God" (the f**ked up ending)
2) Multiple deities were to show up and engage in a free-for-all above downtown Tokyo. (less of a solution to the religion thing and more of a problem)
3) The appearance of a superior extra-terrestrial lifeform. (Did God say that you were his favorite, too? Awkward!)
4) Dolphins suddenly discover Tivo and rise to become the dominant lifeform. (All Hail Lord Flipper!)


hahahhaha good one.
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AndThenThereWasYou wrote:

If there was no God or some sort of religious/spiritual being, there would be nothing special about us as humans. If we are all just animals produced by random chemical reactions and mutations, then nothing matters at all. If there was no God, I would rob banks every day and kill anybody that badly cut me off in traffic. I think the only reason that the entire planet doesn't behave this way is because even in the darkest, shriveled up corner of the most evil soul, everybody innately knows there is a God, there is an afterlife, and we better act accordingly.

So I guess the question should be, "Would people behave morally if God didn't exist?"
And the answer is possibly. However, it is a weak morality that would not exist without its watchers and judges.

I may be biased in this response, so don't hold me to it.


thats right. everybodyelse is a loser.
Posted 5/28/07
even if there was no god, we living beings still have a heart...
Posted 5/28/07
My joke about multi-deity immortal combat made me ponder a bit. As much as atheists are lining up to bitch and complain about the "Christian Tyrant" that is breathing down their backs, the religion of the "morally square" isn't all that bad to keep around.

Right now, we have two groups of extremists trying to blow each other up. But if we had as many gods running around as the polytheistic religions, we would have that many more people trying to blow each other up. And even though Christianity has crazy sh** in it like cutting off your hand and stoning your neighbor (not to be confused with getting your neighbor stoned), all of these crazier practices have melted into a wishy-washy homogeneous "feel good" philosophy.

Christianity is kinda like your overbearing grandma that pesters you about getting married but can't actually do anything once you leave the house. Sure, the fusion of church and state is a little scary and may lead to the revival of some of that crazier stuff, but the only religion I'd rather have take over would probably be Buddhism. Just imagine a world full of hippies! Except I'd want beef jerky and a caste system would mess up my hairdo. But I'd almost rather not have Christianity lose out to something that would probably make me want it to come back.
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the faithful would never be undone by science
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I think about that kind of question too sometimes... bible beaters would deny it like crazy and say what ever proved god didnt exist was the work of the devil, or poppy cock...

Most science has already proven he doesnt exist so the idea is already out there, and they teach their kids that science is BS...

I mean really the yester years of humans thought god/gods lived in the clouds b/c we had never been that far b4 it was plausible but after telescopes were invented and we invented planes that idea was shot to...erm hell...

now ppl have all these theories as to what "god" is and where he is, what ever excuse to sheild the fact that hes imaginary/ or an over embelished tale/myth...
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ahojcookie wrote:

^Hypothetically speaking, of course Just try to imagine it.

Would they still love their fellow humans even though no one tells them to? Would they still see a point in not doing harm to fellow humans, even if it makes no difference in the afterlife / they were convinced there's no afterlife? Would they all go crazy and commit all the sins they missed out on? Would they start worshipping molecules?



And that's why I stopped believing.....
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I don't agree with ''science against god'' thing... as long as we (mean humans) do not understand everything that exist, witch is also impossible, God, the concept, the word, will only be redifined to fit the current level of science and knowledge. God is not meant to dispear, sorry ! Like any other concept, like love, beauty, freedom, it needs to evolve, as long as the humans exists, god also will. Religion is simply huge historical dictionnary's definition, meant to be interpreted. Some day, meant to be re-writen as well.
Well, that's what I think...
But what a weird question!!!
Posted 5/28/07
... uhhhmmm??? neutral....
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Is it even possible to prove the Christian god (you know the father of Jesus) doesn't exist? How do you go about proving something like that doesn't exist?
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