The Mentality of a Japanese Fandom
Posted 4/22/10
Insofar I posted three sociological topics on the CR Japanese culture forum, they are:

From Japanese Media Stereotype to Cultural Scene and Influence.
Japanese Senior Suicide Rate is a Social Problem.
Japanese Legislation Downplay on Rape.


Although all three topics are closely related to the lives of the Japanese people, and they're most definitely related to mainstream Japanese culture. However even amongst those who are interested in all that's Japanese, hardly anyone engaged the topics.

This led me to think that either the audiences were just as stupid as Rick Shenkman had proclaimed they are, or they're just bias and didn't wanna see their subject of obsession in a lesser than positive notion. I mean how else can they form a conscious choice about Japanese culture, if they're not fully aware of the whole picture? As in just what had the Japanese cultural scene had done to the Japanese people through its influence over their society.
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Posted 4/22/10 , edited 4/22/10
'I really hate to brake the threads cherry, I am not a big fan of Virgins after all. (its just to messy, and to much work.)"

but I admit I am a bit bios in my opinion wen it comes to Japan. Mostly do to living for some time in Japan, you know what they say: people can not see what others see wen their to close to said object, person, culture.

But I can reverse this on to any Culture from any land in deed, I can easily target and rip apart any scene from any land.
As for example the culture in American. certain religious branches gaining much advantages over other groups, even wen their actions go against what the nation it self is based on.

Culture has always been morphed and dictated to the public by those with the power. No matter the nation. Its the select group that lead the sheep(people) and the people allow it to happen because they like not having to take responsibility for the reality around them. They rather live and do as some one else dictates is the proper way things should be. Even if its leads to much corruption.

My head hurts,. Its 2:19 in the morning: + I spent all day cutting trees, stacking anywhere from 100 pounds to 160 pound pieces of wood on a wagon, then unstacking them just to, cut them into smaller pieces and piling them up all over again.
All this for a friend of mine so I was doing it for free. (its a nice work out.. and fun at the time.. But now I am feeling it.) AND YET I CAN NOT SLEEP>
Posted 4/23/10
One would gain the illusion that living in Japan is even remotely like its portrayal in anime. The reality is; living there can be very stressful, and a lot might be expected from you. Often a person's life is predetermined. Everything that is to take place is already planned out before you're even born. If you are given the choice as to how you will live, the road is hard nonetheless. A common Japanese mentality when it comes to your job is "work unto death" and this is observed among businessmen, though it has loosened up considerably in the past years.
Posted 4/23/10 , edited 4/23/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

'I really hate to brake the threads cherry, I am not a big fan of Virgins after all. (its just to messy, and to much work.)"

but I admit I am a bit bios in my opinion wen it comes to Japan. Mostly do to living for some time in Japan, you know what they say: people can not see what others see wen their to close to said object, person, culture.

But I can reverse this on to any Culture from any land in deed, I can easily target and rip apart any scene from any land.
As for example the culture in American. certain religious branches gaining much advantages over other groups, even wen their actions go against what the nation it self is based on.

Culture has always been morphed and dictated to the public by those with the power. No matter the nation. Its the select group that lead the sheep(people) and the people allow it to happen because they like not having to take responsibility for the reality around them. They rather live and do as some one else dictates is the proper way things should be. Even if its leads to much corruption.


My head hurts,. Its 2:19 in the morning: + I spent all day cutting trees, stacking anywhere from 100 pounds to 160 pound pieces of wood on a wagon, then unstacking them just to, cut them into smaller pieces and piling them up all over again.
All this for a friend of mine so I was doing it for free. (its a nice work out.. and fun at the time.. But now I am feeling it.) AND YET I CAN NOT SLEEP>
Been there with the tree chopping and all, and it's as messy as cheery popping. Yet strangely satisfying all the same.

And this is what I've came across a lot from the majority, that they have yet to realize that in a democracy they're the ones who's ultimately behind the driving seat. They have all the responsibilities ultimately handed to themselves, and yet they're as ignorant as ever and then some since the time of the Dark Ages. Regardless the scientific and technological advances, there's something within our collective culture that's being persistently regressing humanity as a whole; a culture of ignorance.

I'll admit that I too utilize this culture of ignorance as a tool for me to filter out junk information, and what I meant by "junk" is that I'll ignore certain information altogether. If and only if the source of the information was indeed bias by default(your topic served as an excellent platform as to just how it works). And when I repeated that process for enough times, even I can begin to see a pattern emerging among today's democratic citizens: the majority of them are overwhelmingly selfish and antisocial, as soon as when they encountered anything remotely problematic or requires problem-solving skill. To them, anything that requires them to think before they act is thereby undesirable, when they would still much prefer to follow a leader whom they can expect as one of themselves. Which is anyone but a problem-solver.

Therefore the irony is that while democracy is still working as a system of power that represents the majority's will and desire put into action, when what the majority desired was not to be told just how ignorant and incompetent they are -they got plenty of that in spade from the religious sect- they unwillingly revolted by them hijacking the political scene with none other than their very own ignorance and incompetency. With materialistic capitalism making a very lucrative decision maker.

But wait, there's more. For you see this is relatively quite reasonable, when you consider just how short and new our history of democracy is within the framework of human civilization. Hence, it's also not hard to see just how relatively short and new our history of civilization is within the framework of homo sapiens. I mean come on! It's no wonder that in this day and age there are still people blindly trusting themselves with a supernatural being that propagates war, genocide, mass murder, prejudice, and all kinds of selfish and antisocial acts(they called it "faith" in the "belief" of "unconditional love" for short).


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One would gain the illusion that living in Japan is even remotely like its portrayal in anime. The reality is; living there can be very stressful, and a lot might be expected from you. Often a person's life is predetermined. Everything that is to take place is already planned out before you're even born. If you are given the choice as to how you will live, the road is hard nonetheless. A common Japanese mentality when it comes to your job is "work unto death" and this is observed among businessmen, though it has loosened up considerably in the past years.
What's Enjo Kosai and other expensive male-dominated Japanese erotica. All that steam from them being exploited by their capitalistic and materialistic culture had to go somewhere.
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Posted 4/23/10

DomFortress wrote:

Insofar I posted three sociological topics on the CR Japanese culture forum, they are:

From Japanese Media Stereotype to Cultural Scene and Influence.
Japanese Senior Suicide Rate is a Social Problem.
Japanese Legislation Downplay on Rape.


Although all three topics are closely related to the lives of the Japanese people, and they're most definitely related to mainstream Japanese culture. However even amongst those who are interested in all that's Japanese, hardly anyone engaged the topics.

This led me to think that either the audiences were just as stupid as Rick Shenkman had proclaimed they are, or they're just bias and didn't wanna see their subject of obsession in a lesser than positive notion. I mean how else can they form a conscious choice about Japanese culture, if they're not fully aware of the whole picture? As in just what had the Japanese cultural scene had done to the Japanese people through its influence over their society.



However even amongst those who are interested in all that's Japanese, hardly anyone engaged the topics.


Most people dont engage in your topics , for a variety of reasons. which is really ashame, they are so insightful sometimes .

This led me to think that either the audiences were just as stupid as Rick Shenkman had proclaimed they are, or they're just bias and didn't wanna see their subject of obsession in a lesser than positive notion.

People arnt stupid, they r just ignorant.And it isnt thier fault, the system is made in such a way that it can only survive on ignorance. Not to mension people are just too busy to plan some revolt which may make matters even worse.


In the world- we r expected to get an education, get married,have kids. retire, and die. What else is there? The governments of the world allow you to do at least one of those things. what else is there in life? what are u searching for?

In what ever new regieme u want to install, the end result will be the same-education, married, kids, retire, and die. As long as you have happiness, screw the world and its issues.

And i have put some serious thought into this. My philosophy teacher says the answer lies within the self. What is the self? and how does that help? is there even a problem? then he goes on to say we should change ourselves- when the first quesion hasnt even been answered.

What one must come to realize is that changing the world might not be possible for them-in this sense one must choose between a life of happiness or a life of meaning. you cant have both.

Perhaps the people just want to be happy and content with thier lives. Have a job, family and happiness. You dont need some super perfect government for this,u dont need the self.

As for Japan.......

As long as i can read my manga, play Japanese video games,learn karate and write fanfiction, Japan...more power to ya! Japan is forgiven in my book.

I mean what's so bad about Japanese school girls getting raped? Have u seen those girls? you would want to rape them to if u saw them, but they will be fine-they'll get over it.

As for elders commiting suicide...well, who needs old people? unless thier martial arts masters, what good do they do? If u want them to stop commiting suicide, give them some good manga to read, cheers me up .

As for the whole virtual world dating gig, man- if u read some good manga, you would want to be in thier world to. peace over war
Posted 4/23/10 , edited 4/23/10

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DomFortress wrote:

Insofar I posted three sociological topics on the CR Japanese culture forum, they are:

From Japanese Media Stereotype to Cultural Scene and Influence.
Japanese Senior Suicide Rate is a Social Problem.
Japanese Legislation Downplay on Rape.


Although all three topics are closely related to the lives of the Japanese people, and they're most definitely related to mainstream Japanese culture. However even amongst those who are interested in all that's Japanese, hardly anyone engaged the topics.

This led me to think that either the audiences were just as stupid as Rick Shenkman had proclaimed they are, or they're just bias and didn't wanna see their subject of obsession in a lesser than positive notion. I mean how else can they form a conscious choice about Japanese culture, if they're not fully aware of the whole picture? As in just what had the Japanese cultural scene had done to the Japanese people through its influence over their society.



However even amongst those who are interested in all that's Japanese, hardly anyone engaged the topics.


Most people dont engage in your topics , for a variety of reasons. which is really ashame, they are so insightful sometimes .

This led me to think that either the audiences were just as stupid as Rick Shenkman had proclaimed they are, or they're just bias and didn't wanna see their subject of obsession in a lesser than positive notion.

People arnt stupid, they r just ignorant.And it isnt thier fault, the system is made in such a way that it can only survive on ignorance. Not to mension people are just too busy to plan some revolt which may make matters even worse.


In the world- we r expected to get an education, get married,have kids. retire, and die. What else is there? The governments of the world allow you to do at least one of those things. what else is there in life? what are u searching for?

In what ever new regieme u want to install, the end result will be the same-education, married, kids, retire, and die. As long as you have happiness, screw the world and its issues.

And i have put some serious thought into this. My philosophy teacher says the answer lies within the self. What is the self? and how does that help? is there even a problem? then he goes on to say we should change ourselves- when the first quesion hasnt even been answered.

What one must come to realize is that changing the world might not be possible for them-in this sense one must choose between a life of happiness or a life of meaning. you cant have both.

Perhaps the people just want to be happy and content with thier lives. Have a job, family and happiness. You dont need some super perfect government for this,u dont need the self.


As for Japan.......

As long as i can read my manga, play Japanese video games,learn karate and write fanfiction, Japan...more power to ya! Japan is forgiven in my book.

I mean what's so bad about Japanese school girls getting raped? Have u seen those girls? you would want to rape them to if u saw them, but they will be fine-they'll get over it.

As for elders commiting suicide...well, who needs old people? unless thier martial arts masters, what good do they do? If u want them to stop commiting suicide, give them some good manga to read, cheers me up .

As for the whole virtual world dating gig, man- if u read some good manga, you would want to be in thier world to. peace over war
Here's a philosophical scene that I heard from my friend, it goes somewhat like this:

You find yourself locked in a soundproofed room with no widow, a complete isolation from the outside world that's beyond the room itself for one hour. In this room however is a completely perfect copy of yourself, with all of your abilities, talents, memories, experiences, and even down to personality traits such as expectations and preferences. In other words, within this room stands yourself facing yourself, while none knows the wiser.

However at the end of the hour, both the room and the copy of yourself will disappear without a trace. Which means only you'll know what happened during that hour and only you can testify the experience.

So here's the question, what will you do with yourself in that hour?
For myself, I would use the opportunity to challenge myself by engaging my copy with a series of physical and mental duel. Even the result of this duel can very well be a stalemate, I'll be just as thrilled by the aspect of engaging myself with an equally matched opponent. Furthermore, I just don't see how I can advance myself further without overcoming my own self within that hour. So my own will to power prompted me into challenging myself, and the result is the valuable lesson of self-empowerment.

However, there are two other possible outcomes in this situation: 1)you and your copy can cooperate on a joint project, when you have a partner who knows all your wants and needs, or 2)you and your copy can indulge on erotica, when you have a partner who knows all your desire and pleasures.

Furthermore, this philosophical situation can quite possibly be the representation of your inner private self. And with that in mind, what you'll do with your copy can be seen as your expectation and preference of either your will to power, your sense of duty, or your desire for exploitation.

And finally, you just stumble upon the added benefit of this philosophical exercise; the byproduct of self-conscious via self-awareness. Congrats!
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Mentality implies thoughts, and I highly doubt that Japan builds its fanbase around thinkers, or even people with the capibility to process thoughts. If they did, then they wouldn't be able to sell all their useless crap from ten times its worth. Of course, having establish that, I highly doubt that they could even begin to comprehend the series of criticism of Japan that you put forth. In addition, they are unable to see Japan beyond their utopian vision of it thanks to their obsession with Japan and everything that has to do with it, having been brainwashed by the Japanese media or at least the English translation of it.
Posted 5/10/10
I'm not saying all but alot of ppl who are really influenced by Japan/anime turn out very suicidal like or homicidal like to me.
People don't actually look at there being: they find it cool to have a twisted mind which is not impressive I find it widely influenced by the animes Death Note and Higurashi which I've watched and kept sane (well I did go through a suicidal phase but got back around do to the pass of realisic points)

Japan as the highest Suicide rate in the world and like it happens to come out something popular in the west
I just see more and more hatred for things ppl do think abt and sometimes it's even pathetic b/c they copy things they hear from depressive animes and if I ask more in it they shun me away cuz they can't answer it b/c it wasn't in the script lol.
Posted 5/10/10

Whitirock wrote:

I'm not saying all but alot of ppl who are really influenced by Japan/anime turn out very suicidal like or homicidal like to me.
People don't actually look at there being: they find it cool to have a twisted mind which is not impressive I find it widely influenced by the animes Death Note and Higurashi which I've watched and kept sane (well I did go through a suicidal phase but got back around do to the pass of realisic points)


Japan as the highest Suicide rate in the world and like it happens to come out something popular in the west
I just see more and more hatred for things ppl do think abt and sometimes it's even pathetic b/c they copy things they hear from depressive animes and if I ask more in it they shun me away cuz they can't answer it b/c it wasn't in the script lol.
Not in the script, as if they only came to accept the expected. And yet they don't have any expectation for themselves as individuals, when they're so used to confiding themselves within others' expectation. That's the downside of the collectivist cultural influence.
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