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"Global Warming - December 2009 Updates"




Update - December 8, 2009:

Telegraph.co.uk - Copenhagen climate summit: global warming 'caused by sun's radiation'

Global warming is caused by radiation from the sun, according to a leading scientist speaking out at an alternative "skeptics' conference" in Copenhagen.

Professor Henrik Svensmark, a physicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen, said the recent warming period was caused by solar activity.

He said the last time the world experienced such high temperatures, during the medieval warming period, the Sun and the Earth were in a similar cycle.

Professor Nils-Axel Morner, a geologist from Stockholm University, said sea level rise has also been exaggerated by the “climate alarmists” using computer models.

Obviously these professors are not real scientists like the ones who manipulate their data and outright lie to make their point.



Update - December 8, 2009:

Wall Street Journal - The Tip of the Climategate Iceberg

The global-warming scandal is bigger than one email leak.

A interesting discussion of how leading climate change research centers including NASA have denied freedom of information requests and refused to share their data and methods outside of the zealot community.



Update - December 8, 2009:

Guardian.co.uk - Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak

Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN's negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol.

As if anyone with a functioning brain could not have figured out this is all about power and money.



Update - December 8, 2009:

World Meteorological Organization - 2000–2009, THE WARMEST DECADE

The year 2009 is likely to rank in the top 10 warmest on record since the beginning of instrumental climate records in 1850, according to data sources compiled by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

AND

Update - December 11, 2009:

The Independent -Next year forecast to be hottest on record

Global warming will resume its upward climb again next year, the UK Met Office predicted yesterday at the UN Climate Conference in Copenhagen – forecasting that 2010 will be the hottest year ever recorded for the world.

You have to give the UN and the UK Met Office credit. In the face of adversity just make up bigger lies to cover it all up. Then we have the article below:

News Busters - Major Media Spread Erroneous U.K. Temperature Data

The media that couldn't bring themselves to report on the growing scandal surrounding falsified data is all on board with reporting this latest news. Yet it is clear that the Huffington Post, CBS News, the New York Times and others didn't even bother to check the data that was released from the UK MET (UK Government Department of Climate and Weather Change). If they had they would have immediately discovered what I found, that the US csv (comma delimited) data dump from 1851 to 2009 is erroneous in its compilation. The January column for each year shows period information instead of temperature records and the latitude appears transposed as well. It appears that they incorrectly shifted the column headers when compiling the dump.

Is anyone surprised?



Update - December 15, 2009:

Fox News - Inconvenient Truth for Gore as Arctic Ice Claims Don't Add Up

The former vice president said new research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years, but the scientist his estimate was based on denies the timeline.

In his speech, Gore told the conference: "These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr. [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years."

However, the climatologist whose work Gore was relying upon dropped the former vice president in the water with an icy blast.

"It's unclear to me how this figure was arrived at," Dr. Maslowski said. "I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this."

Al Gore lying, what a shock!



Update - December 15, 2009:

Fox News - U.S. Counting on Cows to Reduce Carbon Emissions.

The United States is counting on cows to help save the planet.

U.S. Secretary Tom Vilsack announced an agreement with the American dairy industry Tuesday to reduce the industry's greenhouse gas emissions 25 percent by 2020, mostly by convincing farmers to capture the methane from cow manure that otherwise would be released into the atmosphere.

"This historic agreement, the first of its kind, will help us achieve the ambitious goal of drastically reducing greenhouse gas emissions while benefiting farmers," Vilsack said at the U.N. climate talks. "(The) use of manure of technology is a win for everyone."

We could save the entire planet by taking the manure that is climate change and putting it in the pasture with the rest off the bull manure.



Update - December 16, 2009:

Telegraph.co.uk - Climategate goes SERIAL: now the Russians confirm that UK climate scientists manipulated data to exaggerate global warming

The United States is counting on cows to help save the planet.

Climategate has already affected Russia. On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) issued a report claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change based at the headquarters of the British Meteorological Office in Exeter (Devon, England) had probably tampered with Russian-climate data.

The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country’s territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports. Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations.

We understand this perfectly. They left out 75% of the Russian Data and 40% of their territory. This in a country that has 1/8th of the worlds land mass. It's just good science to leave out this trivial data. It makes the curves so much smoother. Who needs temperature reading in a place as isolated as Siberia anyway? It's not really cold there or anything to where the reading would impact the overall temperature of the earth being reported.





Global Warming Charade - Back to Main Page

Global Warming Lie -December 2008 Update

Global Warming Myth - January 2009 Update

Global Warming Hysteria - February 2009 Update

Global warming conference snowed out - March 2009 Update

Global Warming - the religion - May 2009 Update

Climate change lies and scare tactics - June 2009 Update

Global warming shrinking sheep - July 2009 Update

Global warming a national security issue - August 2009

Global warming scientist acknowledges the truth - September 2009

What happened to Global Warming? - October 2009

Climategate - The lies exposed - November 2009

Climategate continues - More lies, cover-ups and false statements - December 2009



Al Gore gets caught twisting the truth about global warming

Melting sea ice and the polar bear myth

Global warming and hurricanes

Sunspots and global cooling?



"Global Warming - December 2009 Updates"




Update - December 8, 2009:

Telegraph.co.uk - Copenhagen climate summit: global warming 'caused by sun's radiation'

Global warming is caused by radiation from the sun, according to a leading scientist speaking out at an alternative "skeptics' conference" in Copenhagen.

Professor Henrik Svensmark, a physicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen, said the recent warming period was caused by solar activity.

He said the last time the world experienced such high temperatures, during the medieval warming period, the Sun and the Earth were in a similar cycle.

Professor Nils-Axel Morner, a geologist from Stockholm University, said sea level rise has also been exaggerated by the “climate alarmists” using computer models.

Obviously these professors are not real scientists like the ones who manipulate their data and outright lie to make their point.



Update - December 8, 2009:

Wall Street Journal - The Tip of the Climategate Iceberg

The global-warming scandal is bigger than one email leak.

A interesting discussion of how leading climate change research centers including NASA have denied freedom of information requests and refused to share their data and methods outside of the zealot community.



Update - December 8, 2009:

Guardian.co.uk - Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak

Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN's negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol.

As if anyone with a functioning brain could not have figured out this is all about power and money.



Update - December 8, 2009:

World Meteorological Organization - 2000–2009, THE WARMEST DECADE

The year 2009 is likely to rank in the top 10 warmest on record since the beginning of instrumental climate records in 1850, according to data sources compiled by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

AND

Update - December 11, 2009:

The Independent -Next year forecast to be hottest on record

Global warming will resume its upward climb again next year, the UK Met Office predicted yesterday at the UN Climate Conference in Copenhagen – forecasting that 2010 will be the hottest year ever recorded for the world.

You have to give the UN and the UK Met Office credit. In the face of adversity just make up bigger lies to cover it all up. Then we have the article below:

News Busters - Major Media Spread Erroneous U.K. Temperature Data

The media that couldn't bring themselves to report on the growing scandal surrounding falsified data is all on board with reporting this latest news. Yet it is clear that the Huffington Post, CBS News, the New York Times and others didn't even bother to check the data that was released from the UK MET (UK Government Department of Climate and Weather Change). If they had they would have immediately discovered what I found, that the US csv (comma delimited) data dump from 1851 to 2009 is erroneous in its compilation. The January column for each year shows period information instead of temperature records and the latitude appears transposed as well. It appears that they incorrectly shifted the column headers when compiling the dump.

Is anyone surprised?



Update - December 15, 2009:

Fox News - Inconvenient Truth for Gore as Arctic Ice Claims Don't Add Up

The former vice president said new research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years, but the scientist his estimate was based on denies the timeline.

In his speech, Gore told the conference: "These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr. [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years."

However, the climatologist whose work Gore was relying upon dropped the former vice president in the water with an icy blast.

"It's unclear to me how this figure was arrived at," Dr. Maslowski said. "I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this."

Al Gore lying, what a shock!



Update - December 15, 2009:

Fox News - U.S. Counting on Cows to Reduce Carbon Emissions.

The United States is counting on cows to help save the planet.

U.S. Secretary Tom Vilsack announced an agreement with the American dairy industry Tuesday to reduce the industry's greenhouse gas emissions 25 percent by 2020, mostly by convincing farmers to capture the methane from cow manure that otherwise would be released into the atmosphere.

"This historic agreement, the first of its kind, will help us achieve the ambitious goal of drastically reducing greenhouse gas emissions while benefiting farmers," Vilsack said at the U.N. climate talks. "(The) use of manure of technology is a win for everyone."

We could save the entire planet by taking the manure that is climate change and putting it in the pasture with the rest off the bull manure.



Update - December 16, 2009:

Telegraph.co.uk - Climategate goes SERIAL: now the Russians confirm that UK climate scientists manipulated data to exaggerate global warming

The United States is counting on cows to help save the planet.

Climategate has already affected Russia. On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) issued a report claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change based at the headquarters of the British Meteorological Office in Exeter (Devon, England) had probably tampered with Russian-climate data.

The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country’s territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports. Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations.

We understand this perfectly. They left out 75% of the Russian Data and 40% of their territory. This in a country that has 1/8th of the worlds land mass. It's just good science to leave out this trivial data. It makes the curves so much smoother. Who needs temperature reading in a place as isolated as Siberia anyway? It's not really cold there or anything to where the reading would impact the overall temperature of the earth being reported.





Global Warming Charade - Back to Main Page

Global Warming Lie -December 2008 Update

Global Warming Myth - January 2009 Update

Global Warming Hysteria - February 2009 Update

Global warming conference snowed out - March 2009 Update

Global Warming - the religion - May 2009 Update

Climate change lies and scare tactics - June 2009 Update

Global warming shrinking sheep - July 2009 Update

Global warming a national security issue - August 2009

Global warming scientist acknowledges the truth - September 2009

What happened to Global Warming? - October 2009

Climategate - The lies exposed - November 2009

Climategate continues - More lies, cover-ups and false statements - December 2009



Al Gore gets caught twisting the truth about global warming

Melting sea ice and the polar bear myth

Global warming and hurricanes

Sunspots and global cooling?







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Global warming is not due to manmade activities. This scientist is right and the world needs to give him ear instead of shunning those who disagree with AGW. AGW and politics have had an unhealthy and damaging mixture, and the world's governments are exploiting the lie of AGW to grow governments and gain more power. Climate goes in cycles, it isn't influenced by humanity.
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Global warming is caused by radiation from the sun, according to a leading scientist speaking out at an alternative "skeptics' conference" in Copenhagen.

In all honestly, that's not really surprising. Anyway, the thread that the library moderator linked is irrelevant, seeing as it's outdated. So the conversation continues.
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~ edit: apologise, my bad .
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Is there any reason to lie to public? Scare tactics for what purpose?
Don't tell me this is an attempt to keep developing country from developed by keeping the forest there and stop the construction there. I think it'll be just the opposite. Developed country will be forced to keep their factory low from operation and they won't get away from carbon trading.
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Global warming is offset by harsh winters. Myth busted.
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It has been shut down
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Thank you for showing there is intelligent life on earth
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In your world people want everything in nice little box's then think they can handle it. Global warming is away to cover not wanting to drill off our own coast. Political hack see this as away to manipulate people and there lives. General Electric see money. Ask a environmentalist why is mar getting hotter. Too many car running around,on Mars. I just get really tiered form people trying to run other lives all emotion and little fact.
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The environmentalist movement became a very radicalized group after the fall of the Soviet Union, Allot of these people saw the envirment as away to slow down our even stop none communist state. It nice to take people at face value, and there counting on it as well. Most these people are rebels with out a clue. The more deviant one want to feel important . It is sad to say that people will use others concerns to get the owne ajdenda going.
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Ryutai-Desk wrote:

Is there any reason to lie to public? Scare tactics for what purpose?
Don't tell me this is an attempt to keep developing country from developed by keeping the forest there and stop the construction there. I think it'll be just the opposite. Developed country will be forced to keep their factory low from operation and they won't get away from carbon trading.


Personnaly I want too see third wold counties grow, Somthing you may not realized yet but the people against a global econnemy are self centerd and do not want change to happen. There just bunch of people just un happy with change. When you look at a group you realy need to look at player from all angles. Some tack things at face value nieve at best. There alot of people see potliics and hope to gain from it. Theres some that want to protest and party and real do not care most often the violent part. it seems people think things should stay the same all the time. As time pass and change happens if you dont adapt you by the wayside of life. This has people get scared and the do not like change. The biggest problem the third world has is the war with in the counties themsevle. The U.N. is a big joke there to busy with pay off and power. To me only counties that have open election to head of state and congress should in the UN. to me Senit should be elected by repressetive of that state. With a country this big. It the same thing with global warming. I think People want to bealive they can stop change. Well if they can figure out how to keep sun constant the moon heck the whole unievres. read all sort of matrails pro/con think it through.
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tarakelly wrote:


Ryutai-Desk wrote:

Is there any reason to lie to public? Scare tactics for what purpose?
Don't tell me this is an attempt to keep developing country from developed by keeping the forest there and stop the construction there. I think it'll be just the opposite. Developed country will be forced to keep their factory low from operation and they won't get away from carbon trading.


Personnaly I want too see third wold counties grow, Somthing you may not realized yet but the people against a global econnemy are self centerd and do not want change to happen. There just bunch of people just un happy with change. When you look at a group you realy need to look at player from all angles. Some tack things at face value nieve at best. There alot of people see potliics and hope to gain from it. Theres some that want to protest and party and real do not care most often the violent part. it seems people think things should stay the same all the time. As time pass and change happens if you dont adapt you by the wayside of life. This has people get scared and the do not like change. The biggest problem the third world has is the war with in the counties themsevle. The U.N. is a big joke there to busy with pay off and power. To me only counties that have open election to head of state and congress should in the UN. to me Senit should be elected by repressetive of that state. With a country this big. It the same thing with global warming. I think People want to bealive they can stop change. Well if they can figure out how to keep sun constant the moon heck the whole unievres. read all sort of matrails pro/con think it through.


Maybe you can be forgiven because you are probably not a native English speaker. But can you or someone explain what you are trying to say here, you lost me there with the UN, the sun, the moon and the universe?
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I do apologize for my messed spelling, coming from my loving family was present of brain damage. I do mutilate the language an any language. What I intented to say the U.N. has only one interest and that it self if ti can get money out of global warming it will truth or not. The sad part of the UN is mostly poor counties with Dictatorship, Monarchy,and so forth. So much of the money never gets to the people or projects it supposed to help. So when the UN said it had 15000 scientist backing Global warming as real it was trash talking. The word scientist covers a whole lot of fields, that have nothing to do with Global warming. I wished the UN was not here in this country. Where broke and they still have a hand out. I would not Mined the UN if it really did something. The poor countries are going to stop killing each other over the crumbs the UN hands out. The biggest enemy of third world nation is themselves. Pull together build a better place because nobody else will care as the people in that country. I have a handicap and need to not get so upset by it and swol down. Enthice cleasing what a wast of life in the same country it very said.
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I do apologize for my messed spelling, coming from my loving family was present of brain damage. I do mutilate the language an any language. What I intented to say the U.N. has only one interest and that it self if ti can get money out of global warming it will truth or not. The sad part of the UN is mostly poor counties with Dictatorship, Monarchy,and so forth. So much of the money never gets to the people or projects it supposed to help. So when the UN said it had 15000 scientist backing Global warming as real it was trash talking. The word scientist covers a whole lot of fields, that have nothing to do with Global warming. I wished the UN was not here in this country. Where broke and they still have a hand out. I would not Mined the UN if it really did something. The poor countries are going to stop killing each other over the crumbs the UN hands out. The biggest enemy of third world nation is themselves. Pull together build a better place because nobody else will care as the people in that country. I have a handicap and need to not get so upset by it and swol down. Enthice cleasing what a wast of life in the same country it very said.

First of all please don't post repeatedly and continuously without breaks, 2 times is forgivable but 4,5 times is a little much. There are some problems with some of your views, as well as earlier posts which i have chosen to gloss over but i hope to share some insight on your latest post instead.

" U.N. has only one interest and that it self if ti can get money out of global warming it will truth or not" ... The sad part of the UN is mostly poor counties with Dictatorship, Monarchy,and so forth. So much of the money never gets to the people or projects it supposed to help" - Tarakelly

UN is an International organization formed after WW2 and now consist of 192 member states, a large part of the world, with the goal of maintaining world peace and security, ensuring friendly relations between nations and promoting social progress, better living standards and human rights. Part of the UN charter (Article 2) recognizes the principle of sovereign equality of all its Members.. UN's role is limited in that it cannot intervene in other countries government but may enter country as peacekeepers or provide aid should situation turn dire or impending humanitarian crisis.

The United Nations Organization (UN) is funded by its member states through compulsory and VOLUNTARY contributions depending on the size of each state’s compulsory contribution based on economic strength, state of development and debt situation. Because UN is generally funded voluntarily and with the financial crisis, UN has actually had to cut down on its programs due to lack of funding, notably dire shortage of UN food agency, as well as UN war on crime, drugs and terrorism. UN role is NOT to get money out of global warming, it doesn't have the power in their charter that allow UN to force countries to give money for global warming. The past Kyoto Protocol and current Copenhagen Accord to reduce carbon emission has little or no-penalties for non-compliance.



" I would not Mined the UN if it really did something. The poor countries are going to stop killing each other over the crumbs the UN hands out. The biggest enemy of third world nation is themselves." - Tarakelly




We all know about UN role as peacekeeper but what about aid. As explain above UN role and type of aid it can provide is based on voluntary contributions from member state and limited role in country respecting the sovereignty of country they are involved in. Any more than that, the UN will be the very thing you claim earlier they did, to try to force countries to adopt climate change initiatives to as to gain money.

We can both agree that the UN can and should do better. There is also genuine concern where aid to corrupt countries have been wasted. This is an ongoing problem which warrant serious discussion, should aid be reduced to such corrupt countries, such as Indonesia which was hard hit by 2004 Tsunami or to Haiti which was hit by 2010 earthquakes where there is a serious humanitarian crisis which involves the UN mandate? Its like going against the very principles you stood up for. Have the UN taken measures to ensure to ensure that aid is delivered to those in need. In these matters, UN can do more.



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You can spell and read circles around me. i have my reason for not being very good at it. typing is still foreign to me. But the U.N get most it cash from the US. How much money was given by Americans people not by a country. Hey you probably will make a good Louyer or politician. When you get a real job in the privet sector and can cut it on your own. Talk playing Kibble and bitt's with grammar nut's I have very little to be ashamed of Power conversion was one of many fields I have worked. I have been 1800 feet down coal mine shaft and as 300 on the out side exhaust stack. While people like you talked the game and could not do. I beat your one of those poeple that need to tell every body how smart you are.
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