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Racism, White Supremacy, Stereotypes & Hollywood
Posted 9/15/10 , edited 9/15/10

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But I still agree with him. Maybe discrimination isn't what we're holding on to in general, but as humans, we typically do fear what we don't understand ( Idk if that makes any sense the way I phrased it. But you'll know. You seem really smart.) I believe that's all discrimination is -- or at least that's how it's started. Now we pass it down to others.
If it has a start, then there's a cause somewhere. And I'm willing to think that our fear of the unknown is the start of our discrimination towards each others, thereby discrimination itself as a result of our fear isn't our human nature. But rather it's the unknown nature of reality itself; us.



Exactly. I mean that's probably the very definition of the word, deep down.

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What can I say, you've become good for a laugh. You completely misinterpret my intentions, and purposely follow your ideals on them like a zealot. No explanation is good enough for you to even consider or agree on parts of so you label me a racist rather then try to understand what my point of view is. That and whenever my flow of argument resembles yours, I am apparently a racist, whilst you get away with it.


yes you are a racist you constantly make excuses and get defensive everytime i debunk your excuses and told me to stop complaining



[>mfw I apparently support yellowfacing/whitewashing according to you.]

yes you do claiming that it is business and support the racist excuse of the audience not able to handle non-white leads


[>mfw when you think I support Lou Dobbs/Rush Limbaugh.]

like the racists i listed you use the term white guilt referring to whites who are anti-racist activists

[>mfw when you cut and paste things I say to demonize me.]


they are your quotes

[White Guilt/White Denial are all concepts involved in this area, introducing one while denying the others is unfair. You bring one up, and by nature as devil's advocate, I have to use the opposite otherwise issues are not fairly represented.]



again you use the racist term white guilt proving once again you hate those who speak out against white supremacy and racism telling me to stop complaining and calling whites who do as suffering from white guilt


Also, for the note, the white audience CAN handle non-white leads. Anyone who thinks they can't is an idiot. Any white person who can't obviously isn't really in touch with the world. At no point did I support this idea that we can't handle non-whites in the lead. You still read me wrong it seems.


and yet you constantly defend Hollywood's claim that whites cannot handle non-white leads and calling this a business decision and saying i should stop complaining





Also, you surprised me, congratulations. I half expected you to say it was okay for Jamie Foxx to play Lynch. You dodged the bullet. Unfortunately, you went back to your baseless argument of me as a conservative white racist who flounders in privilege.



this is where you are a hypocrite i listed many cases of yellowface/racebending/whitewashing which is a common racist practice in Hollywood you ignored them, you told me to stop complaining saying this is a business decision. and based on your postings Anybody will assume that you enjoy white privilege that get upset when anyone speak out against racism and discrimination and use the racist term "white guilt" towards white anti-racist activists and tell minorities to shut up when they speak up

and it is not OK for Jamie Foxx to play a white character

and white actors playing non-white roles is also RACISM towards non-whites
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Posted 9/15/10
Hollywood has a mostly white audience, so they use mostly white leads. That's how it works. Basic business sense. Create a product your customer can relate with and thus will want to buy. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
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Posted 9/15/10 , edited 9/15/10
business sense is not an excuse for racism, slavery of african americans before 1865 was a business, 30% of Americans are minorities and thier numbers are increasing it's time hollywood change and allow more minority leads and end the practice of racebending
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Posted 9/15/10
You could always start you own movie studio and cast only minorities........
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Posted 9/15/10

impala1 wrote:

You could always start you own movie studio and cast only minorities........


I have to hand to you. You kept short and sweet and on the money.
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Posted 9/24/10
The last few days have been especially filled with right-wing race-baiting and resentment, not to mention general nastiness so befitting reactionary white men with large audience share.

To wit the following:

On September 22, Rush Limbaugh’s fill-in host announced his plan for creating national unity. No, it wasn’t to address the predatory lending of banks and mortgage brokers, especially in poor communities of color. No it wasn’t to create a unifying national health care system. No, it wasn’t to produce equity of resources in our public schools. The host, Mark Davis, had more important business to address: namely, the need for the Congressional Black Caucus to disband, because, ya know, they are the reason we have racial discord in the United States. Of course. Davis also noted that, “The only group of people that America systemically gladly discriminates against now is white people,” which hardly needed saying, right? What with white men about half as likely to be out of work as black men (even when they both have college degrees), and what with whites having, on average, about twelve times the net worth of black folks, and what with racial profiling against white guys at an all-time high.

Meanwhile, upon Rush’s return to the mic yesterday, and still, apparently, coming down from an Oxy high, Limbaugh noted that anyone who voted for Obama “deserves” to be unemployed and miserable.

So, in other words, the nation’s most prominent conservative spokesperson hopes people are suffering. This is what he wants. For people to hurt, to be in pain. This is sadism, plain and simple. But since his audience is filled with hateful and mean-spirited types, his descent into this kind of rhetoric won’t get him in any kind of trouble with the listeners. That this diatribe means Limbaugh wants most every black person in America to suffer will also go unnoticed I’m sure, despite its racist implications.

Nor will Glenn Beck suffer any loss of popularity, despite promoting the work of an overtly racist, anti-Jewish bigot named Eustace Mullins on his TV show. In discussing the Federal Reserve (about which there are plenty of legitimate critiques from the left), Beck descended into the pit of conspiratorial and fascist propaganda by extolling the insights of Mullins, whose other writings include the 1952 classic, “Adolph Hitler: An Appreciation.” Way to go Glenn.

Oh, and finally, we have Birther King Jerome Corsi, weighing in that Obama needs to do more than produce his birth certificate. Indeed, now he needs to “renounce Lucifer.” Because, ya know, he’s not only a Kenyan Marxist. He’s a Satanic Kenyan Marxist. While we’re at it, I would also like the president to renounce John Wayne Gacy and Idi Amin, because Gacy lived near Chicago (coincidence? I think not), and Amin was black. What more need be said?

http://www.timwise.org/2010/09/right-wingers-say/

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I do not listen to Rush Loudmouth, any Beck and the others at night. i do listen to a Gentleman named Herman Cain that so happens to be black and once in a while Niel boortz there southern talk show. Neil made that point just after Obama election any business owner should not hire Demarcates. To me he on this on he's right but when Democrat's realize they can get what they want through the ballot box, Game over for American as a country. Like I want someone advice on how to run the country and there living off my tax dollar. As for The President Obama if he had a origin ideal of his own. Yellowstone nation park would erupt do i think he's an American yes I do he just another Chicago dirty Politician.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am waiting for Ab Lincoln head to fall of Mount Rushmore in shame the Republican that fought for free slaves and to save the Union. People comparing a child to a real man the closest president would be Jimmy Carter to Obama both had no clue what was going on. This the first really larger group of self made black millionaires that could pass on there money to there children. but no the government want it's second cut of money that been taxed[/blue].------------------------------ I am glade you do not Vote down here you just be one more person with there hand out saying give me.
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Posted 9/24/10 , edited 9/24/10

shinto-male wrote:

business sense is not an excuse for racism, slavery of african americans before 1865 was a business, 30% of Americans are minorities and thier numbers are increasing it's time hollywood change and allow more minority leads and end the practice of racebending


So start your own studio and cast only minorities.

Hollywood is going to cast based on its audience. If the movie is targeted at white people, the actors will be white, if its targeted at black people the casts will be black.

The majority of the movie going audience is white people, so naturally the movies are going to feature white people. Just common sense.

Its all about your target audience

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_audience
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Posted 9/24/10

why don't you tell the people at racebending dot com that excuse and see what kind of response you would get? the target audience being white is not an excuse to engage in the racist practice of yellow face and similar racist, dehumanizing acts of casting white actors to play non-white roles and creating movies with minorities in stereotypical and dehumanizing roles. 30% of Americans are minorities and their numbers are increasing with higher birthrates.


http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFuckhollywood
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why don't you tell the people at racebending dot com that excuse and see what kind of response you would get? the target audience being white is not an excuse to engage in the racist practice of yellow face and similar racist, dehumanizing acts of casting white actors to play non-white roles and creating movies with minorities in stereotypical and dehumanizing roles. 30% of Americans are minorities and their numbers are increasing with higher birthrates.


http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFuckhollywood


Basic marketing sense isn't an excuse. You cast white people when you make a movie for white people. You cast black people when you make a movie for black people, cast asians for asian movies. Just common sense.

And if you don't like it, start your own studio then you can cast whoever you want for whatever role you want.
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Posted 9/24/10
why are you repeating yourself? why are you ignoring that fact that hollywood continues to be racist towards minorities? looks like you either support or have no problem with hollywood's racist practice of yellowface, whitewashing and casting minorities in dehumanizing and stereotypical roles and refusehire minorities if you are are non-white you would not making the target audience excuse and telling me to start my own studio which basically telling me to shut up and stop complaining.
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Posted 9/24/10 , edited 9/24/10

shinto-male wrote:

why are you repeating yourself? why are you ignoring that fact that hollywood continues to be racist towards minorities? looks like you either support or have no problem with hollywood's racist practice of yellowface, whitewashing and casting minorities in dehumanizing and stereotypical roles and refusehire minorities if you are are non-white you would not making the target audience excuse and telling me to start my own studio which basically telling me to shut up and stop complaining.


No I'm saying if you don't like it do something about it ~ Start your own studio. Cast minorities to predominate roles and make a profit while doing it. There everybody wins.

But complaining on the net isn't going to accomplish anything. So go make a difference instead of whining.

Alternatively you could start a TV network and do the same thing.
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Posted 9/24/10 , edited 9/24/10
I don't have the resources and the skills to start a movie studio and no i am not going to stop complaining to please folks who hates when minorities like me who have the courage to speak out against institutionalize racism and people over at racebending dot come are making progress when they start complaining on the internet recently they contacted marvel who changed thier minds and decided to cast an asian american female in thier movie remake of a comic book story
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Posted 10/27/10 , edited 10/27/10
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-239718/the-use-of-baka-and-other-japanese-phrases?pg=0

somebody actually resurrected an anti-Japanese racist thread with the usual of making up stories of people claiming to use Japanese words and calling them racial slurs which are equivalent to the N-word.
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