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Racism, White Supremacy, Stereotypes & Hollywood
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I didn't miss the miss the point shinto is just being an ass and needs to pull the big stick of it as well.




I am not going to be talked to like that in that tone of voice
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so the covert racist fans of the hollywood racist industry can't shut me up now they are resorting to censorship by reporting me to the moderators to try to shut me up by proxy?
Posted 12/13/10 , edited 12/13/10

shinto-male wrote:

so the covert racist fans of the hollywood racist industry can't shut me up now they are resorting to censorship by reporting me to the moderators to try to shut me up by proxy?
No. I shut you up because your post lacked original context in term of your own perspective, and that's against the CR ED forum rule #3.

So stop labeling yourself as an oppressed victim for no good reason, that's just pathetic; when you don't have anything original to say for yourself, you forfeited your own freedom of expression by yourself becoming just another soulless propaganda machine.
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if you read the previous posts in this thread where i member repeatedly lashing out telling me to shut up will see why acted in this way and I use facts and evidence to back up my claims
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Posted 12/13/10

DomFortress wrote:


ProudAsianKid wrote:


DomFortress wrote:



And since when did anime character look real at all? When it's just visual stereotype and symbolism.


Anime look real to Anime fans, that is why even in CR there are many topics in here asking "which Anime characters you will going to marry" , "which Anime world you want to live in" and most important of it all the millions cosplayers of Anime. Anime may not look real to you but not for the hundreds millions Anime fans and I'm talking about them who hate hollywood for making a racist-adaptation of Anime live action by using western actors/actress for the supposed Asian characters of the Anime.
Is that their subjective truth or the objective truth? When that's the difference between individuals that are just as superficial as Hollywood filmmakers, as opposed to those that can separate unrealistic expectations from objective reality. You narcissist.


It is objectively the truh for them, you think them crazy, narciscist, etc are not going to change the fact tha they hate hollywood who ruin their favorite Anime characers.
Posted 12/13/10 , edited 12/13/10

ProudAsianKid wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

Is that their subjective truth or the objective truth? When that's the difference between individuals that are just as superficial as Hollywood filmmakers, as opposed to those that can separate unrealistic expectations from objective reality. You narcissist.


It is objectively the truh for them, you think them crazy, narciscist, etc are not going to change the fact tha they hate hollywood who ruin their favorite Anime characers.
And why is their subjective opinion of hatred matters? When they can just don't buy nor watch those movies objectively? What's your point? You hater.
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a Canadian magazine "Mclean's" and newspaper the Toronto Star tried to stir up fears of Asians attending universities painting them as robots who don't have fun and don't have social lives claiming they are limiting opportunities for non-asians and white students

http://www.stopracism.ca/content/mcleans-does-it-again-first-muslims-now-asian-stereotyping
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a Canadian magazine "Mclean's" and newspaper the Toronto Star tried to stir up fears of Asians attending universities painting them as robots who don't have fun and don't have social lives claiming they are limiting opportunities for non-asians and white students

http://www.stopracism.ca/content/mcleans-does-it-again-first-muslims-now-asian-stereotyping
If this was a bogus claim due to unproven ground, than yes:

How can a headline, ‘Too Asian’?, not be racist? This is irresponsible journalism that relies on spreading racial stereotypes to sell magazines and newspapers,” says Avvy Go, clinic director of the Metro Toronto Chinese and Southeast Asian Legal Clinic (MTSALC)(citation)

However, when you have self-proclaiming individual like ProudAsianKid spreading hate speech for the sake of anime. It became a fair description for self-inflected racism in the from of "Asian pride".
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Sterotypes are everywhere and its important to do the research before beliveing them.
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Strip club owner posts “No Negroes Allowed” sign

ABBOTSFORD, Wisconsin - A sign excluding black people from a future Abbotsford, Wisconsin business is enraging some people in the small town.

It's a sign generations of people may have never seen, yet Mark Prior says it's his right to discriminate.

"If I've got a problem with you it's going to be on the front of my store," says Mark Prior.

Prior posted his 'No Negros Allowed' sign after he says he had some problems with black people in the past and needed to make a policy against them.

Federal and State law says if the business is open to the public, prohibiting people based on race is illegal. If the man's proposed gentlemen's club was going to be a private club, then an African American historian says he could discriminate.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/strip-club-owner-posts-%E2%80%9Cno-negroes-allowed%E2%80%9D-sign#viewSingle108282021

closet white supremacists Rand Paul and corporate shill and propagandist John Stossel say this is ok
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The Orientalism of Nicki Minaj

http://www.racialicious.com/2010/11/01/the-orientalism-of-nicki-minaj/

unoriginal hack Nicki using yellowface, in her music videos filled with samples taken from older songs
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The Orientalism of Nicki Minaj

http://www.racialicious.com/2010/11/01/the-orientalism-of-nicki-minaj/

unoriginal hack Nicki using yellowface, in her music videos filled with samples taken from older songs


I have the higher expectation out off Asian than other race and Jewish (not a Race) people I also expect a higher standard. booth groups tend to push learning and values. Your beating a horse that not even there? You will see more and more Asian films as time goes on here in North America. But I hope there not the Korean series I have watched if you seen three you seen them all. If you have not noticed i am a bigot in a backwards way.
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The Racist Orientalist Riff

http://china.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/dadadada-da-da-dun-dun-daa

http://restructure.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/orientalist-riff-is-example-of-white-culture-and-tradition/


The typical white liberal assumes that non-white people have more “culture” than white people, and may express “envy” as an attempted compliment. Given that white liberals feel that they are denied access to the non-white culture which they “envy”, it is likely that their “envy” is directed at the imagined culture of non-whites, rather than culture (or loss of culture due to white cultural imperialism) as experienced by non-white people.

One example of the white-imagined culture of people of colour is the Oriental Riff, or rather, the Orientalist Riff:

http://chinoiserie.atspace.com/themusicalclichefiguresignifyingthefareast.midi



This riff (copy and paste in the browser to play) appears in orientalist American and British pop songs like “Kung Fu Fighting” (1974) and “Turning Japanese” (1980). However, the “proto-cliché” or rhythmic pattern of “da-da-da-da, da da, da da, daaah!” originated in the 1800s, and has since been ubiquitous in pop culture to signify (and other) Asian culture or Asian people. Martin Nilsson has dedicated an entire website to the history of this rhythmic pattern, The Musical Cliché Figure Signifying The Far East: Whence, Wherefore, Whither?, and defines what he calls the “the Far East Proto-Cliché” as the following:



In other words, the “proto-cliché” is a riff with the rhythm of “da-da-da-da, da da, da da, daaah!” with varying tones, where the first four notes have identical tones, and the bracketed first six notes are obligatory. Additionally, “the instrumentation and general context should be meant to suggest the Orient in order for this pattern to actually be the Far East Proto-Cliché”. Nilsson’s website tracks this “proto-cliché” and provides ninety-seven examples of it from 1847 to 2001.

The painful irony of white people envying Asian people for our “culture” is that what white people perceive as cultural unattainability is actually our perceived cultural otherness. The otherness-disguised-as-unattainability evoked by the ubiquitous “proto-cliché” is a white construction of Asian identity, and this white construction of Asian identity is what they envy and already own without realizing it.

The “proto-cliché” and the most offensive instantiation of it—the Orientalist Riff itself—are used to dehumanize Asians. Kai Chang describes the Orientalist Riff as Musical Yellowface and writes:

Having grown up in a music-loving household filled with both Chinese and Western classical music, this little melody has always annoyed me. It’s basically what white folks play every time Orientalism is invoked in a TV show, movie, or pop song. It’s so prevalent that I honestly suspect that many white folks unconsciously hear this ditty when they see me walk into the room.

Funny thing is, it’s neither Chinese nor even representative of Chinese music. It’s a white supremacist construction whose artistic purpose is to caricaturize, mock, and dehumanize Asians.

Racialicious commenter Elton writes (17 Dec 2009):

Just yesterday, I was at Walmart, shopping for Christmas, when a kid walking by gave me a suspicious look and, as he walked away, sang what I call the “Chinese Stereotype Melody.” I have no idea where it came from, but Asian Americans probably know what I’m talking about. It goes something like, “da-da-da-da duh duh, duh duh, da” and has been used in countless shows and movies (often accompanied by fake martial arts, a gong sound, bowing, fake Chinese words, and just all around mockery of Chinese people, and, by extension, all Asians).

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Anyway, even though this melody probably had the original intention of cheap laughs for people who think Orientalizing, exoticizing, and marginalizing people who are perceived to be perpetual foreigners is funny and entertaining and safe because they’ve never had to confront their own racism, it has the effect, over generations, of making millions of people victims of taunting, bullying, concentration camps, anti-immigration laws, colonization, fetishizing, rape, terror, torture, and socioeconomic inequality. We call this racism.

“It’s just a stupid melody,” you might be saying to yourself. “It’s just a stupid gesture.” And you would be right–it is stupid. It’s something that I would have hoped to leave on the playground 20 years ago. But the persistence of mockery of Asians, particularly the extent to which it’s accepted as innocuous, represents a growing trend that racism against Asians is not only acceptable, but doesn’t even exist.

Not only is the Orientalist Riff racist, but the similarly racist and orientalist “proto-cliché” is a long-standing tradition in the music culture of white-majority societies, even older than classic music genres that defined American music. A blogger puts the ditty into historical perspective:

The thing’s been around longer than jazz, longer than rock, and depending on how you measure these things, longer than the blues, which is where jazz and rock came from. It’s older than the Chinese Exclusion Act. It’s been around at least since 1847, in a melody in The Grand Chinese Spectacle of Aladdin or The Wonderful Lamp.

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It really kicks into first gear, though, in the 1880s, which is about when the blues properly started up (which is where pentatonic scales started taking over Western music), and when… let’s call it “social tensions” began building up, as expressed in the Chinese Exclusion Act.

Clearly, the Orientalist Riff and the equally-orientalist “proto-cliché” originated from historical, anti-Asian sentiment in white-majority countries. Yet even today, the “proto-cliché” (or the riff itself) is being perpetuated in television and film, as if the rhythmic pattern is a natural representation of Asian culture instead of the obvious manifestation of white racism that it is.

For example, in Karl Lagerfeld’s Paris-Shanghai: A Fantasy (2009), which debuted just this month (December), the “proto-cliché” appears in the second video (part 2) at about 6:06.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxdZqoVFZbA#t=6m06s




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Racist scene in "Falling Down"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA0nM8l8onE&

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/12/refuse-to-listen-to-foreign-speakers-of.html

refuse to listen to foreign speakers of english


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State Senator Criticizes Limbaugh, Receives Racist Death Threats

Last week, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh did an impression of Chinese President Hu Jintao that started out "Ching chong, ching chow chong cha," and continued on that way for 17 seconds. Leland Yee was one of the many people to take exception to this. Yee, a California state senator and chair of the state Senate Select Committee on Asian and Pacific Islander Affairs, called on Limbaugh to apologize for his "pointless and ugly offense." Limbaugh's response was not to apologize, but to criticize Yee on his program.

This week, Yee received faxes at his office that read, in part, "Rush Limbaugh will kick your chink ass." The faxes used other racial epithets and called for the death of "all Marxists, foreign and domestic." Observers are speculating that the faxes were sent from a Limbaugh listener. Here's what we know so far:

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'Achtung, Fish Head' Alex Seitz-Wald at Think Progress reproduces one of the faxes. It's addressed to "JoBama Rectum Sniffing Moron Leeland Lee," and reads: "Achtung! Fish Head Leeland Lee - Rush Limbaugh will kick your Chink ass and expose you for the fool you are. Without exceptions, Marxists are enemies of the United States Constitution! Death to all Marxists! Foreign and Domestic!"

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Obama's Head in a Noose John Coté at the San Francisco Chronicle notes that "the faxes include a drawing of a U.S. flag-adorned pickup truck towing a noose that is looped around what appears to be a caricature head of President Barack Obama." The letterhead above this drawing reads, "Fighting The Marxist Nigger Thug Hussein Obama & Fish Head Leeland Yee."

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Yee's Seen This Kind of Thing Before Alan Colmes notes that Yee "previously has been the recipient of racist, homophobic, scatological messages from Sarah Palin fans when he fought to have information released about her speech at a taxpayer-funded school." The San Francisco Examiner says these earlier messages, which Yee received in April 2010, used "similar graphics and language" as the most recent faxes.

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Are We Sure This Is Genuine? wonders Ann Althouse. "Overachievement in the genre of hatefulness ... makes me skeptical," she writes. Althouse points out that it's not clear whether the fax came from "a fan of Rush Limbaugh's or somebody hoping to make Rush Limbaugh look like the horrible man the left would so dearly love you to believe he is." She urges whoever's in charge to "trace it down... Racist death threats are intolerable and so is the generic dispersal of blame."

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Yee's Response After Limbaugh's original show where he spoke in ersatz Chinese, Yee started an online petition calling for an advertiser boycott of Limbaugh's program. This week, a press release on Yee's Web site notes that "recently, the Pima County Sheriff's Office in Arizona contacted Yee regarding the April faxes and a possible connection to faxes found during the investigation surrounding the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords." A spokesperson for Yee told Think Progress that though Yee has received similar messages in the past, "in light of what of what happened in Arizona, we have to take these things seriously now."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/State-Senator-Criticizes-Limbaugh-Receives-Racist-Death-Threats-6742/
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