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American tv shows and movies are regularly seen on Japanese TV networks they are usually dubbed in Japanese. Japan is a homogeneous society. they have no problem putting on movies and shows with non-Japanese actors .

american tv networks constantly make all-white shows and hire minorities to serve whites, and act in stereotypical roles recent examples include 2 broke girls, and a HBO show with 4 sheltered privileged white girls living in a city where most of the population are non-white. both had racist casting calls.. 20 years ago American tv was more diverse today they are more whiter and in the last 20 years the minority population has grown to the point that more non-white babies are born than white ones. and as the non-white population grows Hollywood and the racist networks are becoming more racist and whiter. i can see them going bankrupt and asking Washington to bail them out and as the growing population of non-whites which will become a majority within 30-50 years reject their lily-white racist movies and TV shows and advertising dollars and revenues drop.


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American tv shows and movies are regularly seen on Japanese TV networks they are usually dubbed in Japanese. Japan is a homogeneous society. they have no problem putting on movies and shows with non-Japanese actors .


If Japan is a homogeneous society, why would they have no problem putting on movies or shows with non-Japanese actors?


american tv networks constantly make all-white shows and hire minorities to serve whites,


1. 'American' should be capitalised, both because it is a proper adjective and because it starts the sentence.
2. It's 'T.V.', not 'tv'.
2. 'All-White' shows implies that everyone is white, therefore, the inclusion of these 'minorities to serve whites' would contridict the statement that 'American T.V.networks constantly make all-white shows'.


and act in stereotypical roles recent examples include 2 broke girls, and a HBO show with 4 sheltered privileged white girls living in a city where most of the population are non-white.


Wait, how is being broke and a girl racist or having four wealthy people living in a racially diverse city racist?


both had racist casting calls..


Let's ignore the atrocious grammar for now, and focus on the core of your argument, first you provide two examples of shows which does not seem very racist, and then tell us that it is racist. Please explain why the casting of these shows are racist, rather than assert it.


20 years ago American tv was more diverse today they are more whiter and in the last 20 years the minority population has grown to the point that more non-white babies are born than white ones. and as the non-white population grows Hollywood and the racist networks are becoming more racist and whiter. i can see them going bankrupt and asking Washington to bail them out and as the growing population of non-whites which will become a majority within 30-50 years reject their lily-white racist movies and TV shows and advertising dollars and revenues drop.


So, do you have any proof to support this wild theory of yours, or are you just insisting that Hollywood is racist.



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Wow, a list of nannys! And look, they come in all colours! Forgive me for saying so, but I am still not seeing the Racism. Is this racism simply a construct of your fevered mind, seeking to find racism everywhere in America, while extolling the virtues of Japan, the homogeneous society, where hating the Koreans and the Chinese is a public sport and where only 1.5% of the population is not ethnically Japanese, is there any strong evidence for this supposed racism in Hollywood?
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is there any strong evidence for this supposed racism in Hollywood?


Hollywood is racist a institution i already listed the evidence in this thread from page one. did you read them? no. all you are doing is following me around and attacking me. i don't respond to those who attack me and using insults
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Chronicle (Hollywood Racism)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuR298McFjY&feature=plcp


three high school kids get telekinetic powers from some object in the ground that looks like the top of the statue of liberty mixed with a honeycomb. They use their magic powers for a while and then of course the black guy dies.

The main character Andrew, has an abusive father but he gets saved from being killed by one of the teens, but of course the black guy, who is the only one with a bright future, dies.

Andrew ends up getting killed by his cousin Matt at the end (Spoiler Alert)


The Help (Hollywood Racism)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4o7qR3dGhc&feature=relmfu


Hollywood likes to remind America about the way things used to be


and reinforce the stereotype


"i love me some fry chicken"

and racist hollywood likes to remind blacks that we should be happy with the way
we are treated and "suck it up" the way the Evans family did on Good Times

a scene shows a former Mississippi governor say he is a proud segregationist


the way things "used" to be


in the films one of the maids need $75 to send her sons to college

so she steals a ring

her sons didn't get to go to school and her career as a maid is ruined


neither one of them had a chance of getting a good education in Mississippi at the time

because.. (scene then changes to the Governor not allowing integration in the schools)


the white girl) end up writing the book with help from the maids

so the maids risk their lives and jobs to help the white girl

who ends up getting a high paying job in New York City.

and in exchange for their help

the maids got $46 each

and to make matters worst the main character "Abiline" gets fired

she walks out and say to herself that she will become a great writer one day

but there is no post script or anything that explains what ever happens to her







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Asian-Americans speak out against hate crimes, bullies
June 19, 2012|BY JULIE SHAW, Daily News Staff Writer

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THIRTY YEARS ago, Vincent Chin, a 27-year-old Chinese-American, was beaten to death with a baseball bat by two Detroit autoworkers who thought he was Japanese and blamed him for the massive layoffs in the auto industry.

His death sparked protests across the nation and galvanized the modern Asian-American civil-rights movement. The two white autoworkers who killed him served no time in jail.

"It mobilized people to do something," Nina Ahmad, chairwoman of the Mayor's Commission on Asian American Affairs, said of Chin's death. "We have to continue mobilizing because the job is not done.

More recently, other tragedies have highlighted racism against people of Asian descent - the suicide last fall in Afghanistan of Army Pvt. Danny Chen, 19, of New York, who was allegedly hazed by his fellow soldiers, and the 2009 attacks on Asian students at South Philadelphia High School.

This Saturday, on the 30th anniversary of Chin's death, local and national Asian-American groups are holding a nationwide panel discussion on hate crimes and bullying. Two panelists are local - Wei Chen, who was a student leader at South Philly High in the aftermath of the 2009 attacks, and Mia-lia Kiernan, co-founder of the One Love Movement.

The public is invited to attend at the Asian Arts Initiative, 1219 Vine St. Doors open at 1:30 p.m.; the discussion begins at 2 p.m.

Moderator Phil Yu, founder of the Angry Asian Man blog, and other panelists, including U.S. Rep. Judy Chu, D-Calif., will appear on a screen via Google+ Hangout.

Ahmad, who is also co-founder of the national Asian Pacific Americans for Progress, said that after the national forum, there will be a local discussion on Philadelphia-area issues. One topic that could come up is crimes against Asian merchants. "My gut says it's a hate crime," she said. "But I can't say it for a fact because I don't have the statistics," noting that merchants of other races have also been victimized.

On June 19, 1982, Chin's head was smashed with a bat by Ronald Ebens, a Chrysler supervisor, while Ebens' stepson, Michael Nitz, who had been laid off, held Chin, in Highland Park, just outside Detroit. Chin died four days later.





http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-19/news/32318255_1_michael-nitz-ronald-ebens-asian-american-affairs



the latest "study' perpetuating the model minority stereotype

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/06/study-on-us-asians.html




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Chronicle (Hollywood Racism)

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=OuR298McFjY&feature=plcp


three high school kids get telekinetic powers from some object in the ground that looks like the top of the statue of liberty mixed with a honeycomb. They use their magic powers for a while and then of course the black guy dies.

The main character Andrew, has an abusive father but he gets saved from being killed by one of the teens, but of course the black guy, who is the only one with a bright future, dies.

Andrew ends up getting killed by his cousin Matt at the end (Spoiler Alert)


The Help (Hollywood Racism)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4o7qR3dGhc&feature=relmfu


Hollywood likes to remind America about the way things used to be


and reinforce the stereotype


"i love me some fry chicken"

and racist hollywood likes to remind blacks that we should be happy with the way
we are treated and "suck it up" the way the Evans family did on Good Times

a scene shows a former Mississippi governor say he is a proud segregationist


the way things "used" to be


in the films one of the maids need $75 to send her sons to college

so she steals a ring

her sons didn't get to go to school and her career as a maid is ruined


neither one of them had a chance of getting a good education in Mississippi at the time

because.. (scene then changes to the Governor not allowing integration in the schools)


the white girl) end up writing the book with help from the maids

so the maids risk their lives and jobs to help the white girl

who ends up getting a high paying job in New York City.

and in exchange for their help

the maids got $46 each

and to make matters worst the main character "Abiline" gets fired

she walks out and say to herself that she will become a great writer one day

but there is no post script or anything that explains what ever happens to her









A lot of things in 'The help' didn't make sense to me


Like the way 3 black maids had turned down the only employer in town who wouldn't treat them like shit.

And the way they agreed to help Skeeter write the book. Why? It wasn't going to help them (and it didn't) and they'd lose thier only source of income available to them.

And the fat maid giving her bitchy white boss a pie made from her shit. That could have gotten her attacked or killed, especially because the woman she fed it to was well-respected and extremly nasty.

And what was it that Abiline knew that made miss Hilly back down?

And why does 'oh so caring' Skeeter not help Abiline after her book got the woman fired, and what happens to Abiline?

Boring film, to top it off.



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is there any strong evidence for this supposed racism in Hollywood?


Hollywood is racist a institution i already listed the evidence in this thread from page one. did you read them? no. all you are doing is following me around and attacking me. i don't respond to those who attack me and using insults


Really now? Much of what you post as 'evidence' are more or less the same as the post to which I responded, that is to say, there is nothing in it but bullocks, and the whole of it is bullocks. Hollywood is not an institution, it is a place, there is no formal establishment called 'Hollywood', it is simply a shorthand for the entire American Film Production industry. You accuse me of following you around and attacking you- O pauvre homme! I respond to all form of idiocy and folly, you just have the misfortune of being the most idiotic person there is. You do not respond to those who attack you using insult- let's look at this logically and rationally-

a- I am a person who attack using insult
b- You do not respond to those sort of people
c- You, obviously, are responding to my previous post,
d- Either premise a is wrong or premise b is wrong.
QED

So, do explain how Hollywood is racist?

How does your theory explain the presence of actors like Will Smith, or the success of people like Jackie Chan and Jet Li?
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the producers and the studio that whitewashed “The Last Airbender” got the rights to make a live adaptation of a novel

“a 1992 novel about a futuristic Los Angeles featuring several characters of color? The main character is hacker and pizza delivery guy Hiro Protagonist, who is of mixed Asian and African American descent. Other characters include a street smart skateboarder named Yours Truly (Y.T.), Hiro’s ex-girlfriend Juanita Marquez, and the antagonist Raven, who is of Aleut descent. Themes of racism and sexism intersect the text and the characters’ experiences.


http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/attack-the-blocks-joe-cornish-lands-snow-crash-at-paramount/

http://www.racebending.com/v4/featured/producers-the-airbender-plan-adapt-snow-crash/
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Question: who would create a musical based on The Nightingale set in Qing Dynasty China and refused to hire Chinese Actors?

Answer: a racist piece of shit named Moises Kaufman




The cast includes Serra Mesa resident Nikki Castillo (How the Grinch Stole Christmas!) as “Nightingale,” Obie Award winner Eisa Davis (Passing Strange, Angela’s Mixtape) as “Fisherwoman,” Matthew Patrick Davis(Playhouse’s Limelight, A Midsummer Night’s Dream) as “Lieutenant Eunuch,” Kimiko Glenn (Spring Awakeningnational tour) as “Princess Ssu-Ming,” acclaimed local actor Steve Gunderson (Playhouse’s Memphis) as “Chief Eunuch,” Jonathan Hammond (Broadway’s Ragtime) as the “Emperor,” Corbin Reid (Broadway’s Sister Act) as “Feiyan,” Aaron Serotsky (Off-Broadway’s The Blue Flower) as “Minister of State,” Bobby Steggert (Broadway revival of 110 in the Shade) as “Young Emperor,” Tony Award nominee and Playhouse Gala honoree Charlayne Woodard (Playhouse’s The Night Watcher, A Midsummer Night’s Dream) as “Empress Dowager,” as well as ensemble members Chelsea Diggs-Smith (Lamb’s Players Theatre’s Guys and Dolls) and UCSD M.F.A. student Zach Martens (Playhouse’s The Car Plays: San Diego).


http://broadwayworld.com/article/Bobby-Steggert-Corbin-Reid-et-al-to-Lead-THE-NIGHTINGALE-at-La-Jolla-Playhouse-Full-Cast-Announced-20120615





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BOYCOTT Jim Sturgess the racist piece of shit!


Just watched the 5 minutes and 41 seconds confusing trailer of "Cloud atlas"

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/07/26/cloud-atlas-trailer/

racist actor Jim Sturgess is made to look east Asian which is Yellowface. This Jim Sturgess was one of the actors in the whitewashed 21 movie which is based on a story of Asians playing at a casino in Las Vegas. Jim portrayed the lead who is Asian in the orginal story. It seems like Jim enjoy playing the role of Asians in movies, expect to see this racist asshole in future Hollywood racist, yellowface and whitewashing movies. All the East Asian female characters are all clones or look a likes or have the same face. one of them become a love interest with the racist Jim Sturgess in yellow face.



Racist piece of Shit Jim Sturgess in yellowface
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A sheltered privileged, white woman wrote a book about solar radiation from the sun killed off most of the white people making dark skinned/black people the dominant folks(calling them coals) FYI this word "coal" is a racist slur used to call blacks. coal burner is used to describe white women who date/marry and sleep with a black man) and the whites called "pearls".




Today In Racism: YA Series “Save The Pearls” Employs Offensive Blackface And Bizarre Racist Stereotypes Plot


Victoria Foyt is the (white) author of a new young adult book series called Save the Pearls. The book chronicles the adventures of Eden Newman, a white woman, or a “Pearl,” whose entire race has been enslaved by the dominant race of “Coals” — or dark-skinned people. Hoping to capitalize off of the popularity of dystopian young adult novels like The Hunger Games, Foyt constructed a narrative in which, she explains, “Solar radiation has wiped out most of the white race whose lack of melanin causes them to succumb to the Heat. The survivors, called Pearls, suffer from oppression under the new majority of dark-skinned Coals.” In the new world, Eden must rely on Bramford, a Coal. As Foyt describes it, Pearls is “a Beauty and the Beast story in which both parties must find self-acceptance before they can discover true love.”

Say what?

In an essay on Huffington Post, presumably meant to publicize her book, Foyt prides herself on receiving mostly positive reviews for her story. She marvels at the way Pearls‘ “interracial love story” is being so positively received by the audience. She writes:

Not too many years ago, I can imagine that this story might have generated heated comments about the sexualized fantasies about black men. And yeah, there was one. And having checked out that blogger, I strongly suspect that he belongs to a much older generation than young adults.

Otherwise, I’m happily surprised to say there has been not a blip of protest.

And while yes, it’s great that an “interracial love story” is received without protest (yay! progress), I’ve got bigger fish to fry with Pearls — and Foyt.

First off, while she may want to pat herself on the back for creating a story that turns on its head stereotypical tropes about the social value of whiteness and blackness, the very names she chooses to use say that Foyt may still hold those tired tropes dear.

“Pearl” as a term for whiteness ascribes high value, rareness, beauty and worth. And Coal as a term for dark-skinned? Low value and dirty. And as blogger Nnamdi Bawse points out, it’s a tried and true racial slur. But even without the shameful history of the slur, choosing such wildly divergent names, holding wildly divergent values, implies a positive value judgement on whiteness and a negative value judgment on blackness.

Then let’s take the “Beauty and the Beast” analogy. To refer to a dark-skinned man as “beastly” carries with it negative notions of blackness that are rooted in a historical portrayal of black men as sexually savage beasts. As Dr. David Pilgrim, professor of Sociology at Ferris State University writes, “During the Radical Reconstruction period (1867-1877), many white writers argued that without slavery — which supposedly suppressed their animalistic tendencies — blacks were reverting to criminal savagery.” So essentially, the construction of black men as “beastly” was used to justify slavery. So, awesome. Yeah, NO.

Finally, witness this video Foyt made to publicize her book, featuring a white woman in blackface. Memo to the world: Blackface is not okay. Like, EVER. Blackface is rooted in bygone minstrel shows, where white actors would play outrageously offensive stereotypes of blackness. As the website Black-Face.com explains, blackface is more than simply the application of dark makeup to a white face. Blackface “originated in the White man’s characterizations of plantation slaves and free blacks during the era of minstrel shows (1830-1890), the caricatures took such a firm hold on the American imagination that audiences expected any person with dark skin, no matter what their background, to conform to one or more of the stereotypes: the coon, the mammy, the Uncle Tom, the buck, the wench, the mulatto and the pickaninny.” These racial stereoytypes are all highly negative and delimiting.

Oh, and also? White people don’t get to decide if blackface is no longer offensive and when it’s acceptable. As historical perpetrators of racial stereotypes against black people, it’s patently ridiculous to say that “black people should just get over it.”

Further, Foyt pats herself on the back because her dystopian novel where whites are the disadvantaged race just mirrors her own teachings at home. “I have endeavored to raise my children with a color-free mentality. My son once mentioned that his color was white while mine was tan. This was said with no more feeling than if he’d been describing the different colors of our bedrooms.” Here’s the thing: Teaching kids not to “see” color, denies the fact that people of different racial identities experience life very differently. Only a person living from a position of racial privilege would ever say that they don’t “see” color. It’s a way to avoid dealing with the very real truth that people’s skin color does in large part define how they are perceived by the world. It denies a very real part of someone’s life and being, and it also reinforces the construct of Whiteness-As-Norm. Further as SF Gate blogger Bruce Reyes-Chow writes, “When one says ‘I don’t see color,’ then we no longer have to acknowledge the realities of our own prejudice and privilege as well as the real experiences of the others. We stifle conversations that must happen around race in the US and squelch the possibilities of discovering together the one of the greatest gifts of U.S. culture … our diverse racial and ethic backgrounds.”

So it seems that however well-intentioned she might have been, Foyt needs to do a bit (a lot) more research on race politics, and the history of racism before writing a dystopian novel about it.


http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-07-27/today-in-racism-ya-series-save-the-pearls-employs-offensive-blackface-and-bizarre-racist-stereotypes-plot/


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white woman in blackface from a picture from a promotional video for the racist book



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I've seen black protagonists... quite a lot, but in my opinion, I think Asians are the most under-represented group... Yes there's Jackie Chan, but the bad english ( don't get me wrong, I love him, Hong Kong Pride ) and kungfu just adds to the stereotypes regarding us.
I have been asked "do you know kungfu" when I was little, I have a feeling it's from these false underlining stereotypes.

Also, I believe the Dragon Ball Z movie should have had an asian play it... not that I've seen it, but I think it would have been a lot more successful.

I am looking forward to a day where there can be an Asian protagonist in a major movie that is not Jackie Chan.

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I've seen black protagonists... quite a lot, but in my opinion, I think Asians are the most under-represented group... Yes there's Jackie Chan, but the bad english ( don't get me wrong, I love him, Hong Kong Pride ) and kungfu just adds to the stereotypes regarding us.


As an Asian, I know that your statement is unfounded. For one, Jackie Chan and Jet Li are particularly famous within the United States, and, while their English may not be at the level of native speakers, that is to be expected, they aren't native speakers, as well as many other Asian Actors- including Japanese, Korean, Indian, South East Asian, etc. Really, why do people always assume that to be Asian you have to be East Asian?


I have been asked "do you know kungfu" when I was little, I have a feeling it's from these false underlining stereotypes.


It is a legitimate question to ask- akin to asking if someone knows martial arts, these are usually the things kids take interest in.


Also, I believe the Dragon Ball Z movie should have had an asian play it... not that I've seen it, but I think it would have been a lot more successful.


I think that a disaster would be a disaster even if you included an Asian. Can't people watch a film without trying to spot every ethnic minority within this nation? Nobody would mind if we didn't have a black man in nineteenth century Denmark performing a sixteenth century play, what the viewer is interested is in the acting, the performance, the delivery, the plot, and the art of the film. If I were to choose between a superb all white film, and a mediocre but racially diverse film, the superb all white film trump the racially diverse one.


I am looking forward to a day where there can be an Asian protagonist in a major movie that is not Jackie Chan.



Have you tried Jet Li? Or the plenty of films that does not include Mr Chan?
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Catz1297 wrote:

I've seen black protagonists... quite a lot, but in my opinion, I think Asians are the most under-represented group... Yes there's Jackie Chan, but the bad english ( don't get me wrong, I love him, Hong Kong Pride ) and kungfu just adds to the stereotypes regarding us.


As an Asian, I know that your statement is unfounded. For one, Jackie Chan and Jet Li are particularly famous within the United States, and, while their English may not be at the level of native speakers, that is to be expected, they aren't native speakers, as well as many other Asian Actors- including Japanese, Korean, Indian, South East Asian, etc. Really, why do people always assume that to be Asian you have to be East Asian?


I have been asked "do you know kungfu" when I was little, I have a feeling it's from these false underlining stereotypes.


It is a legitimate question to ask- akin to asking if someone knows martial arts, these are usually the things kids take interest in.


Also, I believe the Dragon Ball Z movie should have had an asian play it... not that I've seen it, but I think it would have been a lot more successful.


I think that a disaster would be a disaster even if you included an Asian. Can't people watch a film without trying to spot every ethnic minority within this nation? Nobody would mind if we didn't have a black man in nineteenth century Denmark performing a sixteenth century play, what the viewer is interested is in the acting, the performance, the delivery, the plot, and the art of the film. If I were to choose between a superb all white film, and a mediocre but racially diverse film, the superb all white film trump the racially diverse one.


I am looking forward to a day where there can be an Asian protagonist in a major movie that is not Jackie Chan.



Have you tried Jet Li? Or the plenty of films that does not include Mr Chan?



LOLOL of course I know of Jet Li -.- I just didn't want to complicate things since he's not as big as Jackie Chan... Why do I feel like you're trying to attack everything I said?

And really? I'm not stupid I know there are other "types" or asians and many people who are in the entertainment industry. But have you seen HUGE big names? have you seen many Asians (ALL TYPES) as protagonists of a huge movie? I only stated the Chinese side since I am more experienced with my culture and entertainment industry rather than in other races.

If so, good for you, the rest of the world probably hasn't seen the movie.

I'm sure there are exceptions. But I'd like to state that I am talking about the majority of the time...
I'm not sure if you think I'm being racist or what? but I was stating what I have noticed and what I have seen personally.
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more racist imagery from the upcoming movie "Cloud Atlas"



boycott Hugo Weaving




Actor Hugo Weaving in yellowface in a promotional image for Cloud Atlas




what is a comfort Hive?




In a promotional image from Cloud Atlas, an Asian woman sits behind a barred window next to a sign that reads “Comfort Hives”




In a scene from the trailer, a white male character monologues about a dream where all the (Asian) waitresses had the same face.

in racist white culture all asians look the same


http://www.racebending.com/v4/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/cloud-atlas-22-e1344928266610.jpg

In a promotional still from Cloud Altas, Asian actress Bae Doona cries as she is snuggled by Jim Sturgess in yellowface

what made Bae Doona a Korean actress participate in this racist excuse of a movie? did she asked the makers why they didn’t hire Korean or any east Asian males?



and don’t forget to boycott that piece of racist shit Jim Sturgess who likes to dress up as and play Asian Characters. this is the second time. first in “21″ where the lead is an Asian male in the original story and now in this racist crap called “Cloud Atlas”


more at

http://www.racebending.com/v4/blog/cloud-atlas-conversation-yellowface-prejudice-artistic-license/


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