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Asians Need Not Apply: Mickey Rourke As Gengis Kahn




One of the most infamous cases of the practice of Yellowface the equivalent of Blackface for Asians in Hollywood is the portrayal of the warlord Gengis Khan by John Wayne in the film, The Conqueror. Five decades later one would think that attitudes would have changed and the practice of casting white actors for historically Asian or ethnic characters would have changed let alone altering them with makeup to fit caricatures of a people but sadly it hasn't. The same story is playing out now as Mickey Rourke has been cast in a retelling of this story. Unlike the John Wayne film Mickey Rourke will be filming in China, Mongolia, and India for the role undoubtedly with people who could claim to be descendants of the Khan's as background roles and arrow fodder while Rourke plays their cultures hero. This is far from Sin City or Iron Man rather this is an iron clad cinematic sin.

We at the Otaku group recently profiled a series of recent cases at first independently and then with our profile of the racebending group linking what is becoming a disturbingly clear pattern. With the adaptations of Dragonball, The Last Airbender, Prince of Persia, Akira, the Weapon, etc all fictional adaptations whose source material featured Asian heroes and it's Hollywood adaptation replaced them with Caucasian actors. We echo the sentiment of the folks at cinematical who brought this most recent case to our attention, who titled their article you gotta be kidding me!

Hollywood has a checkered past in portrayals of Asians in cinema. There has never been a single instance where a white historical figure has been portrayed by an Asian actor in American cinema while the reverse is playing out in the present as it has in the past. Hollywood has even rewarded this practice. Two Oscars have been awarded to white actresses portraying Asians once in 1937 for the Good Earth a novel based on cultural identity in which that identity was changed to "Eurasian" white rather than Asian, removing the social commentary about racism and the attitudes of the day on mecegination. The second Oscar even came not to a white woman playing an Asian woman and not in the 1930's but playing an Asian man in the 1980's! Awarded to linda Hunt, in the year of living dangerously. It is also worth pointing out that seven films featuring blackface were also nominated for Oscars. The point being it wasn't a fringe practice in Hollywood rather it was the accepted and rewarded status quo that benefited white actors and as the Academy being self selecting and still overwhelmingly white continued to reward white actors regardless of the context of their roles. It didn't end blackface out of it's conscience it rewarded it and found it preferable to hiring black actors for roles as evidenced by the Oscars it handed out to those performances. It ended it because the public refused to pay good money on a bad cinematical practice and we need to send the message that Yellowface to is a practice we won't pay to see.

Arguably the most famous detective novels of their day, Charlie Chan stared an Asian detective and was based on the real life exploits of detectives in Hawaii yet Hollywood cast a caucasian in the role through more than three decades of it's popular portrayal on the silver screen. When Bruce Lee pitched the idea for Kung Fu after the success of the Green Hornet the studio took the idea but cast Keith Karadine instead of lee telling the prominent oscar nominated actor Mako who was helping lee pitch the project that whites would simply turn the tv sets off if they saw an Asian man play a hero. To be clear the studio favored Keith Caradine over an Oscar nominee and the man who went on to have two of the top ten grossing films of the following decade. Indignities like this that Mako saw within Americas acting community on stage, screen, and tv pushed him to create the East West Players to advance Asian American actors and when he was nominated for a Tony he accepted the nomination by saying he would refuse the award until conditions for Asian actors improved. Among Mako's last work was the role of Iroh in the animated version of Avatar the Last Airbender. The film adaptation now features three white leads in the place of originally Asian roles and spits in the face of his legacy.

This casting then comes in a long context that removes any ambiguity from this most recent decision. It is a brazen and at this point blatantly racist move where we shall again see that only the identity of the lead character shall be changed from the Asian persuasion. The message couldn't be more clear. With historical (Mickey Rourke as Gengis Kahn) mythical (White lead the Forbidden Kingdom) fictional (The Weapon, White Lead.The Last Airbender, Three White Leads. Dragonball, Two White Leads. Akira, All White Leads.) or contemporary (21 and Extraordinary Measures both are true stories with the people they are based on still living and still Asian while cast white.) The message is, ASIANS NEED NOT APPLY IN HOLLYWOOD


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jandarujora wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


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shinto-male wrote:

The Idea that Hollywood is runned by Zionists or Jews is a myth

For the better part of this century, anti-Semites have alleged that American Jews have conspired with their co-religionists to "control" the motion picture industry in the United States.

The assertion that Jews "control" Hollywood, the media, banking and finance, among other things, is an anti-Semitic canard which dates back more than 70 years to an anti-Jewish campaign waged in the 1920s by the Dearborn Independent, a long-defunct publication backed by the late industrialist Henry Ford Sr. The Dearborn Independent had mounted a seven-year anti-Semitic campaign based on the notorious and fraudulent book, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/movie_industry.asp



Typical you got your source from the ADL of all places...

How is Hollywood not run by Jews? They own all the major studios for crying out loud.


So what if Jewish people own the majority of the studios, since when is it a crime to be a successful businessman ?


The issue here was that shinto-male was trying to prove (using statements from the ADL of all places) that Jews controlling Hollywood is nothing but a myth, when actually it's so glaringly obvious that they do.


Yeah, and I acknowledged that, and asked what the problem is with that.

So what if the majority of successful media businessmen are jewish ? Whats wrong with that ? Nothing wrong with being a successful businessman and theres nothing wrong with being a jew. So whats the issue ?
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With historical (Mickey Rourke as Gengis Kahn) mythical (White lead the Forbidden Kingdom) fictional (The Weapon, White Lead.The Last Airbender, Three White Leads. Dragonball, Two White Leads. Akira, All White Leads.)



Akira
Original Release on July 16th 1988

Role - Seiyū

Shotaro Kaneda - Mitsuo Iwata
Tetsuo Shima - Nozomu Sasaki
Kei - Mami Koyama
Ryusaku (Roy) - Tesshō Genda
The Colonel - Tarō Ishida
The Doctor - Mizuho Suzuki
Kaori - Yuriko Fuchizaki
Yamagata - Masaaki Ōkura
Kai - Takeshi Kusao
Masaru - Kazuhiro Kamifuji
Takashi - Tatsuhiko Nakamura
Kiyoko - Fukue Ito
Miyako - Kōichi Kitamura
Nezu - Hiroshi Ōtake
Inspector - Michihiro Ikemizu
Mitsuru Kuwata - Yukimasa Kishino
Eiichi Watanabe - Tarō Arakawa
Yūji Takeyama - Masato Hirano
Army - Kazumi Tanaka
Harukiya bartender - Yōsuke Akimoto

The English version by Streamline came later. Find me my white lead in that list.
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The Object to making a movie is to (make money) that dirty capitalist pig. The makers of these movies have a target audience. The names of people pull people in to see the movie. Just being simple minded me. What is so hard and speaking the same language help the audience understands the movie. But I would love to see people protesting Hollywood was just a bunch of racist. I should say bigots but racism is much more inflammatory.
Posted 7/20/10 , edited 7/20/10

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http://current.com/entertainment/comedy/92398176_asians-need-not-apply-mickey-rourke-as-gengis-kahn.htm


Asians Need Not Apply: Mickey Rourke As Gengis Kahn




One of the most infamous cases of the practice of Yellowface the equivalent of Blackface for Asians in Hollywood is the portrayal of the warlord Gengis Khan by John Wayne in the film, The Conqueror. Five decades later one would think that attitudes would have changed and the practice of casting white actors for historically Asian or ethnic characters would have changed let alone altering them with makeup to fit caricatures of a people but sadly it hasn't. The same story is playing out now as Mickey Rourke has been cast in a retelling of this story. Unlike the John Wayne film Mickey Rourke will be filming in China, Mongolia, and India for the role undoubtedly with people who could claim to be descendants of the Khan's as background roles and arrow fodder while Rourke plays their cultures hero. This is far from Sin City or Iron Man rather this is an iron clad cinematic sin.

We at the Otaku group recently profiled a series of recent cases at first independently and then with our profile of the racebending group linking what is becoming a disturbingly clear pattern. With the adaptations of Dragonball, The Last Airbender, Prince of Persia, Akira, the Weapon, etc all fictional adaptations whose source material featured Asian heroes and it's Hollywood adaptation replaced them with Caucasian actors. We echo the sentiment of the folks at cinematical who brought this most recent case to our attention, who titled their article you gotta be kidding me!

Hollywood has a checkered past in portrayals of Asians in cinema. There has never been a single instance where a white historical figure has been portrayed by an Asian actor in American cinema while the reverse is playing out in the present as it has in the past. Hollywood has even rewarded this practice. Two Oscars have been awarded to white actresses portraying Asians once in 1937 for the Good Earth a novel based on cultural identity in which that identity was changed to "Eurasian" white rather than Asian, removing the social commentary about racism and the attitudes of the day on mecegination. The second Oscar even came not to a white woman playing an Asian woman and not in the 1930's but playing an Asian man in the 1980's! Awarded to linda Hunt, in the year of living dangerously. It is also worth pointing out that seven films featuring blackface were also nominated for Oscars. The point being it wasn't a fringe practice in Hollywood rather it was the accepted and rewarded status quo that benefited white actors and as the Academy being self selecting and still overwhelmingly white continued to reward white actors regardless of the context of their roles. It didn't end blackface out of it's conscience it rewarded it and found it preferable to hiring black actors for roles as evidenced by the Oscars it handed out to those performances. It ended it because the public refused to pay good money on a bad cinematical practice and we need to send the message that Yellowface to is a practice we won't pay to see.

Arguably the most famous detective novels of their day, Charlie Chan stared an Asian detective and was based on the real life exploits of detectives in Hawaii yet Hollywood cast a caucasian in the role through more than three decades of it's popular portrayal on the silver screen. When Bruce Lee pitched the idea for Kung Fu after the success of the Green Hornet the studio took the idea but cast Keith Karadine instead of lee telling the prominent oscar nominated actor Mako who was helping lee pitch the project that whites would simply turn the tv sets off if they saw an Asian man play a hero. To be clear the studio favored Keith Caradine over an Oscar nominee and the man who went on to have two of the top ten grossing films of the following decade. Indignities like this that Mako saw within Americas acting community on stage, screen, and tv pushed him to create the East West Players to advance Asian American actors and when he was nominated for a Tony he accepted the nomination by saying he would refuse the award until conditions for Asian actors improved. Among Mako's last work was the role of Iroh in the animated version of Avatar the Last Airbender. The film adaptation now features three white leads in the place of originally Asian roles and spits in the face of his legacy.

This casting then comes in a long context that removes any ambiguity from this most recent decision. It is a brazen and at this point blatantly racist move where we shall again see that only the identity of the lead character shall be changed from the Asian persuasion. The message couldn't be more clear. With historical (Mickey Rourke as Gengis Kahn) mythical (White lead the Forbidden Kingdom) fictional (The Weapon, White Lead.The Last Airbender, Three White Leads. Dragonball, Two White Leads. Akira, All White Leads.) or contemporary (21 and Extraordinary Measures both are true stories with the people they are based on still living and still Asian while cast white.) The message is, ASIANS NEED NOT APPLY IN HOLLYWOOD


This caught my eye so I started researching everything...and I found some facts that are rather startling.

The Conquerer starring John Wayne was distributed by RKO Radio Pictures, one of the five major studios during Hollywood's Golden Age. RKO was created by RCA's David Sarnoff, who was Jewish.

The other major studios were Loew's which became MGM (created by Marcus Loew, who was Jewish), Paramount Pictures (formed from the merge of Famous Players-Lasky Corporation, headed by Adolph Zukov who was Jewish), Warner Bros. (from the four Wonskolaser brothers who were all Jews), and 20th Century Fox. I don't have to tell you about the latter.

Dragonball Evolution was distributed by 20th Century Fox. The Last Airbender was distributed by Paramount Pictures. Prince of Persia was distributed by Walt Disney Films (headed by Robert Iger, who is Jewish) and Jerry Bruckheimer Films (Bruckheimer is Jewish). All of Charlie Chan's films were also distributed by Fox.

Ed Spielman (a Jew) took the credit for the creation of the Kung Fu series and the studio hired Carradine instead of Bruce. Linda Lee Caldwell, Bruce's widow, claimed in her memoirs that Kung Fu's concept was originally Bruce's but was stolen by Warner Bros.

Mickey Rourke is going to play Genghis Khan, a movie being written and directed by John Milius, who is Jewish.

Seeing a trend here? Everything that I've found out is true and I'm not making any of this up. You can look it all up yourself. So now ask yourself: who has been behind all this so-called racism since the very beginning of Hollywood this whole time?




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they decisions have nothing with them being Jewish. being Jewish is not an ethnicity
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remake of Akira coming?

http://www.ugo.com/movies/hughes-brothers-albert-torres-on-akira-remake
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What is it with you and race and moveis?
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Hollywood is continuing their racism against minorities
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remake of Akira coming?

http://www.ugo.com/movies/hughes-brothers-albert-torres-on-akira-remake



They are being the directors you nutcase. No white leads there. The cast hasn't even been announced. Drawing racist conclusions out of nothing.
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where did i mentioned race in the Akira post? Hollywood is also being unoriginal they have a habit of remaking older movies and stealing copyrights

Posted 7/24/10 , edited 7/24/10
As opposed to Yellow racism, we might take in note that the hate for another race for whatever reason is still racism.

Whether it is hating a race for making stupid mistakes, whether hating a race because whatever reason you point out.

Sorry to say this Mr. Shinto-male, but you are being a racist.
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The Weapon

Well, Hollywood does it again, this time by casting Italian American Disney channel darling David Henrie to play–get this–an Asian American character named Tommy Zhou. Platinum Studios is making a film adaption of their comic book series The Weapon.
The filmmakers are emphasizing Henrie’s martial arts experience while de-emphasizing the fact that the character he plays is Asian American. This is again another example of Hollywood sending the message that white actors are more qualified to portray Asian characters than Asian American actors are.

The Weapon is written by comic book author Fred Van Lente, who is well known for helping popularize another Asian American comic book hero, Marvel’s Amadeus Cho. Amadeus, Jubilee, and Tommy Zhou are some of the very few Asian American comic book heroes in existence.

And the story of the The Weapon takes it a step further–at it’s heart it’s about an Asian American kid trying to reconcile his Chinese and American heritage. Throughout the story Tommy struggles with being American, yet Asian. At the end of the story Tommy recognizes that both the Asian and American parts of himself deserve respect, coming to the realization that he “must embrace the good in both parts.”

This is not an indictment against the acting skills of Mr. Henrie. Our concern is not that they have given Mr. Henrie a leading role, but that he has been chosen represent an Asian American while real-life Asian Americans are still systematically denied leading roles in films. Since the Asian American identity of Tommy Zhou is unambiguous, undeniable, and intrinsically part of his story this is one of the worst cases of whitewashed casting in recent memory.



http://www.racebending.com/v3/events/protest-the-whitewashing-in-the-weapon/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weapon_%28comics%29





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Okay, so you've made the case that Hollywood is racist.

Now what?.........
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