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Drug test before employment is required by law. Although companies don't want to do it since it cost them, they have to and there's nothing we can do about it. I believe that every illegal drugs should be on the list. It won't be tag by law as illegal if someone didn't die or get hurt from it.
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

I take 10 different "legal" drugs hell I am amazed I pass my test when I need take one >_> on a side note I find nothing wrong with smoking weed or drinking it's our body let us fuck up any way we want to unless we are around kids in a profession like a teacher or something but a normal chaisher job shouldn't need too >_>


They don't have hire you if you are on legal drugs too.
Posted 5/9/10

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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

I take 10 different "legal" drugs hell I am amazed I pass my test when I need take one >_> on a side note I find nothing wrong with smoking weed or drinking it's our body let us fuck up any way we want to unless we are around kids in a profession like a teacher or something but a normal chaisher job shouldn't need too >_>


They don't have hire you if you are on legal drugs too.


well i have a disability that I take them for and that would be discrimination and against the equal and fairness work doctrine if they didn't hire me. i won't go into detail on a public on what I have but you pm and ask me if you want too.
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You shouldn't drink or do drugs on the job, and if you do you deserve to be fired.
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I wouldn't mind it and I think it should be allowed. I rather not have anyone high or drunk when they have to work.
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Drug testing is just a way of companies trying to control their employees actions outside of the job.
My Aunt is a sever (imagine as bad as it can get.... shes worse) alcoholic and she's a college professor, yet someone who smokes a little weed on the weekend can have a hard time being hired in a low paying soul-sucking toilet of a job.. to get to the heart of the problem it all stems from the fact that weed an all natural herb has been made illegal and just shouldn't be.
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I support testing, reguardless of what any of you say. You do the stuff, you go to jail or you get fired....it's really simple.
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gratefuldead68 wrote:


He's not crying, asshole, he's expressing a completely valid opinion. Way to sound like a douche.



Sound to me like he's complaining because he wants to smoke pot but now he cant.
To me.... this is just another "LEGALIZE IT!!!"-thread. And based on the situation he's in, I call that crying. Especially when you look at the job situation in the US.
I bet he'll get tested for more than just pot too. I don't think they will hire him if he shoots heroin. They have to draw the line somewhere.

Then he wrote:
"but stuff like pot doesn't even necessarily affect your job performance"

But it MIGHT affect your job performance.
I perfectly understand why a company would go through this. Even if it's law like someone wrote.

I don't have anything against pot. But if I owned a company I wouldn't want my employees to be positive on drug tests






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first off i have nothing against your lifes preference. I am just trying to figure your logic.

So regardless of your AWESOME performance and skills that may better the company. You must agree that a job, has the sole control of what kind of requirement it wants to have in order to hire a person. Even if it says a requirement is to be drug free, then thats the requirement. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be complaining it the requirements included doing drugs.

wait I lost track here. They are just eliminating the risk that may come from people whom uses drugs. Some of which are: leading to addiction/abuse (affects work), possibility of influencing others (specially if u are working with KIDS), getting caught with it even if you weren't using it - now you're in jail waiting for bail, instead of working-, and many more.

If you're comeback is "well there are just as many risk that comes with hiring a non-drug user", yes there is. But those who does uses drugs will have the same risk as the non-users PLUS the added risk, similar to what I mention above. Its a lot easier to filter out the risk of drug users then to filter out non user whom are crazy but acts sane.


understand??? its not about being fair, its about reducing risk. If u had a company and I sold u one of two machine both cost the same price; one is nothing wrong with it, other than unforeseen glitches, other is a machine which I know tends to have issues. which one would you pick??? the one that you know for sure will tend to have issues???!!!! WOULD YOU!!!???


P.S. you might think it is alrite to smoke plant, cause u believe its harmless. So you let one of the kids do it. And IT IS HARMLESS. WHAT IF THE PARENTS MIGHT NOT WANT THEIR KID TO EAT MEAT, WELL AND YOU THINK MEAT IS A FINE DIET, WOULD YOU MAKE THEIR KIDS EAT MEAT!!!! WELL ITS NOT YOUR CHOICE!!! ITS THIERS, ITS THIER KIDS, NOT YOURS. THEY RAISE THEM HOW THEY WANT AND THEY WANT TO RAISE THEM IN A DRUG FREE ENVIRONMENT. YOU SMOKING DRUGS AT THEIR SUMMER CAMP IS NOT A DRUG FREE ENVIRONMENT THEIR PARENTS WANT. THAT THEIR PARENTS PAID FOR. IF THEY DIDNT CARE THEY WOULD'VE PAID FOR THEIR KIDS TO GO TO A DRUG-FULL SUMMER CAMP WHERE WEED IS GROWN IN THE WILD AND EVERYONE IS SMOKING IT. BUT THEY ARE NOT. SO PUT DOWN THE BUD AND GO TAKE THE DRUG TEST. IF YOU DONT WANT TO PUT IT AWAY THEN GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT ALLOWS U TO DO DRUGS. IM SURE I KNOW OF MANY PLACES THAT DOESNT MIND.


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unLUCKeCHARMS wrote:


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stop crying

No one is forcing you to work there


Obviously, you haven't seen the economy in America. You take what you can get when it comes to jobs.


Then shouldn't you be happy that you got a job instead of crying about a drug test that you're going to pass?



Okay, first off, I'm expressing an opinion. Knock it off with the whole "crying" thing. It's really immature. Secondly, I was using this job as a gateway for a bigger conversation, since drug tests basically say, "Well, you may be the most qualified, have the best skills, attitude on the job site, basically things that would help the employer and the company as a whole, but since you smoked a certain plant a month ago, maybe even longer than a month ago, even if throughout this hiring process you've been professional and not under the influence at all, too bad for you." You're telling me that this is fair?


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If you don't want to be tested for a job that does it, then don't go for it.
Who wants to have people work for them if they're testing positive...no one obviously. They can be potentially dangerous to other people...and themselves.
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Marshmallowz wrote:

If it's illegal, you could go to jail. o-o;;

Plus, they might be worried that the other employees would catch on to the habit.

Btw, I'm not really sure on this stuff. x-x (So, please don't say "ur stupid, datz totally rong noob" D:)


ur stupid, datz totally rong noob!!! >:[


Kiiidding.. :D


Eh, I think you should stop whining. If I were an owner I wouldn't want some druggie working for me. Yeah, sure it's not my business. But drugs effect your work habit and your work habit is totally my business.
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You shouldn't drink or do drugs on the job, and if you do you deserve to be fired.


i know im kind of talking too much here. but i thought it would be nice to add.

well you shouldnt be fired for drinking on the job, if you're a beer tester!!! hahahaha lol.

sorry, sorry. i just had to say it. lame joke i know.
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Marshmallowz wrote:

If it's illegal, you could go to jail. o-o;;

Plus, they might be worried that the other employees would catch on to the habit.

Btw, I'm not really sure on this stuff. x-x (So, please don't say "ur stupid, datz totally rong noob" D:)


ur stupid, datz totally rong noob!!! >:[


Kiiidding.. :D


Eh, I think you should stop whining. If I were an owner I wouldn't want some druggie working for me. Yeah, sure it's not my business. But drugs effect your work habit and your work habit is totally my business.


Agreed, I don't want some stupid enough to test positive for illegal drugs working for me. Who knows if one time(or many for that matter) they find the spare time while "working" to go get stoned then screw things up because they're stupid-high.

And no, I'm not anti-drugs, at least not completely. I think marajuana would be fine if they regulated it like alcohol does, it has similar effects just one's an upper the other's a downer(stereotypically)
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tycho0042 wrote:

Agreed, I don't want some stupid enough to test positive for illegal drugs working for me. Who knows if one time(or many for that matter) they find the spare time while "working" to go get stoned then screw things up because they're stupid-high.

And no, I'm not anti-drugs, at least not completely. I think marajuana would be fine if they regulated it like alcohol does, it has similar effects just one's an upper the other's a downer(stereotypically)


I hear ya, buddy. Not to mention, imagine all the times they'll be calling in "sick" due to hang overs or the aftermath if they take drugs regularly.
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*sigh* one of these kind of topics again. Companies have every right to drug test employees and I agree with the process. Even if people say they won't do it while working or get high before, there's still a chance that they'll be stupid enough to do it anyway thinking nothing will happen and they won't get caught when something does and it causes problems for the entire workplace.
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