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Which Manga Couple That You Won't Accept Forever??
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Mikan and Natsume from Gakuen Alice. Yet another lovely example of girls falling for jerks. Natsume only took her underwear off the first time he ever met her, not to mention lifting up her shirt and commenting on how flat she was. He's a real charmer isn't he?


Well, she HATED him for that....she only started liking him when he started being nicer to her.


Regardless of incest or not, KanamexYuuki is still a crappy pairing....>_>
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Mikan and Natsume from Gakuen Alice. Yet another lovely example of girls falling for jerks. Natsume only took her underwear off the first time he ever met her, not to mention lifting up her shirt and commenting on how flat she was. He's a real charmer isn't he?


Well, she HATED him for that....she only started liking him when he started being nicer to her.


Regardless of incest or not, KanamexYuuki is still a crappy pairing....>_>


Being nice to Mikan after being horrible does not make up for what a scary jerk he is. Why is Kaname and Yuuki a crappy pairing? Because he's actually kind and has looked after her? What has Zero done besides bite her every chance he got and then push her away, not to mention threatening her life? I don't like male characters who are abusers. It's not hot or romantic
Posted 1/7/11
Tsuna/Kyoko-she is too much of a blank paper & Tsuna just needs to grow up

Amu/Tadase(She belongs with Ikuto)

Kaname/Yuki( This pairing just gets on my damn nerve.....Its Incest no matter how you put it)
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ichigo x rukia
ichigo x orihime

i really dislike both couples..neither really works for me.
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Being nice to Mikan after being horrible does not make up for what a scary jerk he is.


I suppose nearly sacrificing himself to save her doesn't make up for it either? Right. Have you even read past volume 3?
People CHANGE. They make mistakes....but they change and Natsume changed. A LOT.


Why is Kaname and Yuuki a crappy pairing? Because he's actually kind and has looked after her?


It's boring and nasty because he's in her BROTHER'S BODY....and she's so annoying with she goes into fangirl mode around him.


I don't like male characters who are abusers. It's not hot or romantic


I agree but Zero does not abuse Yuuki. First of all, she LETS HIM BITE HER.
Kaname is more abusive in my opinion. Control-freak.

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Being nice to Mikan after being horrible does not make up for what a scary jerk he is.


I suppose nearly sacrificing himself to save her doesn't make up for it either? Right. Have you even read past volume 3?
People CHANGE. They make mistakes....but they change and Natsume changed. A LOT.


Why is Kaname and Yuuki a crappy pairing? Because he's actually kind and has looked after her?


It's boring and nasty because he's in her BROTHER'S BODY....and she's so annoying with she goes into fangirl mode around him.


I don't like male characters who are abusers. It's not hot or romantic


I agree but Zero does not abuse Yuuki. First of all, she LETS HIM BITE HER.
Kaname is more abusive in my opinion. Control-freak.




I'm completely caught up with Gakuen Alice. You're missing the point, when guys are emotionally or physically abusive, it doesn't matter what they do. Nothing can negate who they are. It's like saying, "Oh he hits me sometimes and loses his temper, but I provoke him, and he's always so sweet otherwise." That kind of mindset is dangerous. Natsume is a sexual harrasser and it's all the more scary because he's only a child. I hate to see him as an adult.

Kaname is not in Yuki's brother's body, so I don't know where you are getting that from. Kaname was reduced to his own baby state because of his weakness. During all the flashbacks thousands of years ago, he looks exactly as he does now. He is in his own body. Yuki's brother is dead. If you think he resembles Yuki, that is because he is the Kuran ancestor.

Zero does abuse Yuki emotionally and physically. She feels sorry for him so she lets him bite her. That is a serious flaw in her character (something I won't get into here), but many times Zero was really rough with her. He's like an animal. She's been nothing but nice to him and yet he threatens to kill her and all purebloods. Never mind that the purebloods saved his life. Zero is nothing but a whiny hypocritical bitch.

As for Kaname being a control freak, well I don't see that at all. He is concerned for Yuki's safety. Kaname is a little bit insecure because he knows Yuki has feelings for Zero and because of how he lost the woman he loved before. He's scared and doesn't want that to happen again. There is nothing abusive about his behavior, he is sweet and caring to Yuki. He has never hurt her or threatened her life.

Seeing so many weak and abused young women in shojo manga really angers me... it's implying some not so very nice things about society today. So that is why I feel so strongly about this subject.

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I'm completely caught up with Gakuen Alice. You're missing the point, when guys are emotionally or physically abusive, it doesn't matter what they do.


Physically abusive is definitely wrong but as far as emotionally....I think EVERYONE is at some point, for some reason, some time in their life. Nobody is perfect and it's not possible to go through life without hurting another person in some way.
It's just not.


Natsume is a sexual harrasser and it's all the more scary because he's only a child. I hate to see him as an adult.


It's no big deal-so he's a little pervy. Little boys ARE perverts. Hayama from Kodocha was the same way. You make it sound like he tries to rape her but it's just a childish phase he'll eventually grow out of. I'm sure he'll be quite mature and caring as an adult. Do you really believe adults are the same people as when they are kids? Hell no. >_>


Zero does abuse Yuki emotionally and physically. She feels sorry for him so she lets him bite her. That is a serious flaw in her character (something I won't get into here), but many times Zero was really rough with her. He's like an animal.


Urm....isn't that because of what he's turning into? How is that his fault? That's like saying "that guy is a horrible abuser because he has schizophrenia and hits anybody who goes near him".
It's not something he can control.....at least, doesn't seem like it.


Zero is nothing but a whiny hypocritical bitch.


Your biased dislike towards him is quite evident here....>_>


Seeing so many weak and abused young women in shojo manga really angers me... it's implying some not so very nice things about society today.


Urm...I think you're over-exaggerating a bit...and also reading into things a little too deeply. I won't touch Hot Gimmick or any of that smut Shinjo Mayu writes with a ten-foot pole though....
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Nana & Takumi





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god he pisses me off (also first boy in thread haha)
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I hate the fact that Ninako ended up with Ren i wanted Ninako to end up with Andou D':
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I'm completely caught up with Gakuen Alice. You're missing the point, when guys are emotionally or physically abusive, it doesn't matter what they do.


Physically abusive is definitely wrong but as far as emotionally....I think EVERYONE is at some point, for some reason, some time in their life. Nobody is perfect and it's not possible to go through life without hurting another person in some way.
It's just not.


Natsume is a sexual harrasser and it's all the more scary because he's only a child. I hate to see him as an adult.


It's no big deal-so he's a little pervy. Little boys ARE perverts. Hayama from Kodocha was the same way. You make it sound like he tries to rape her but it's just a childish phase he'll eventually grow out of. I'm sure he'll be quite mature and caring as an adult. Do you really believe adults are the same people as when they are kids? Hell no. >_>


Zero does abuse Yuki emotionally and physically. She feels sorry for him so she lets him bite her. That is a serious flaw in her character (something I won't get into here), but many times Zero was really rough with her. He's like an animal.


Urm....isn't that because of what he's turning into? How is that his fault? That's like saying "that guy is a horrible abuser because he has schizophrenia and hits anybody who goes near him".
It's not something he can control.....at least, doesn't seem like it.


Zero is nothing but a whiny hypocritical bitch.


Your biased dislike towards him is quite evident here....>_>


Seeing so many weak and abused young women in shojo manga really angers me... it's implying some not so very nice things about society today.


Urm...I think you're over-exaggerating a bit...and also reading into things a little too deeply. I won't touch Hot Gimmick or any of that smut Shinjo Mayu writes with a ten-foot pole though....


You're clearly an apologist so I'm not going to argue with you. Entertainment reflects pop culture and society, so no I am not reading too much into this. I don't excuse abusive, perverted behavior in real life or in manga/anime. If you do, then that is your business.
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sakura and narutoi dnt like sakura though....but im not that very big fan of naruto anymore
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You're clearly an apologist so I'm not going to argue with you. Entertainment reflects pop culture and society, so no I am not reading too much into this. I don't excuse abusive, perverted behavior in real life or in manga/anime.


But entertainment ALSO exaggerates. A lot.

You "don't excuse it"....so according to you, if a little boy flips up a little girl's skirt to tease and laugh at her and they bump into each other again like ten years down the road, and he wants to date her, she should still NEVER EVER forgive him for what he did because "he's an abusive pervert"?

.............doesn't that seem kinda stupid? lol
Posted 1/7/11

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You're clearly an apologist so I'm not going to argue with you. Entertainment reflects pop culture and society, so no I am not reading too much into this. I don't excuse abusive, perverted behavior in real life or in manga/anime.


But entertainment ALSO exaggerates. A lot.

You "don't excuse it"....so according to you, if a little boy flips up a little girl's skirt to tease and laugh at her and they bump into each other again like ten years down the road, and he wants to date her, she should still NEVER EVER forgive him for what he did because "he's an abusive pervert"?

.............doesn't that seem kinda stupid? lol


No, what is stupid is that you're arguing with me about this

He didn't just flip her skirt up to tease her, he sat down on top of her and pulled her underwear off! Another time he lifted up her shirt and then felt her breasts, saying they were flat. That is sexual harrassment no matter the age. I wonder if you had a daughter and she came home telling you a little boy did this to her. Would you think that was ok? Oh, lets just shrug it off because he's just a kid At ten years old, children know better than to do stuff like this. A lot of times if someone acts this way as a child, it is a good indication of how they will act as adults. So Natsume could very well turn into a rapist because he is already exerting his dominance over girls. Yeah some people do change and are honestly ashamed of how they behaved when they were young, but we are not talking about Natsume 10 years down the road. He is still the same age (10 or 11) and he should be judged on his behavior now.
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Sasuke&Sakura (sasuke duck ass killed my itachi, hell no he's gonna get anything but DEATH!!)
Naruto&Sakura (seriously, naruto dont need her)



edit: although sakura is doing some growing, i still dont like her with naruto
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No, what is stupid is that you're arguing with me about this


If I think someone is being unfair to a character I like, I WILL defend that character. I just find your points to be a bit irrational, that's all.


He didn't just flip her skirt up to tease her, he sat down on top of her and pulled her underwear off!


Yes, do you know why? He thought she was working for Narumi and the ESP. The school taught him to show no mercy which is why he did what he did.


Another time he lifted up her shirt and then felt her breasts, saying they were flat.


He didn't actually feel them. He just looked. Looking and copping a feel are different because one is a lot more extreme than the other. Guys used to try to look down my shirt when I wasn't paying attention. One of them confessed this to me much later and I did get mad but I wasn't all "I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!!" because he was a friend and I knew he already had a crush on me....>_>


I wonder if you had a daughter and she came home telling you a little boy did this to her. Would you think that was ok?

No, but I wouldn't think that he deserved the electric chair for it. I'd probably call his mother and have a talk with her.


Oh, lets just shrug it off because he's just a kid At ten years old, children know better than to do stuff like this.


Fine, then what do you think is a suitable punishment? If you want to treat the child as an adult, then I''m guessing you'd have them put in jail, like how adult molesters are treated so THEY can be raped by older men? Do you think that is justice?



A lot of times if someone acts this way as a child, it is a good indication of how they will act as adults.


Do you have proof of this? If I look at myself, I'm really nothing like how I used to be at ten years old....


So Natsume could very well turn into a rapist because he is already exerting his dominance over girls.


Mikan is the ONLY girl he has tried dominating. There are plenty of other girls at the academy but he leaves them alone.
Judging from his behavior later on, I really don't think it's likely for him to turn into a dangerous rapist. He's become a much better person after meeting Mikan. Yes, he still does things to piss her off but he's nothing like he was in the beginning. So if he's already shown us change for the better, what makes you think he's suddenly going to change for the worst once he is older?

The point is, Natsume loves Mikan. She is the most important person in his life and his top priority is keeping her safe. Aside from their first meeting, he does things to bug her but in a playful way. But he cares a lot about her and certainly isn't going to try to rape her or hurt her. And if you think that isn't true, you are only kidding yourself.....
Posted 1/8/11
To ChiibiHiime-

I am done with this conversation. I've said everything I wish to say, and this is getting us nowhere since you continue to defend Natsume's perverted behavior. I don't even know where all of this came from. This topic is supposed to be about couples you don't like (which are OPINIONS). You like Natsume and that's fine, but don't attack someone just because they don't feel the same way as you.

But FYI, Natsume did feel Mikan's breasts... it was after they transformed into high school students and he felt her chest through her shirt, saying something like she was still as flat as when she was a kid.
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