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Our Education needs an Overhaul
Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10
This TEDx presentation talked about what I think is to be the single worst, inefficient, as well as ineffective teaching method in the US. And how to solve this problem not with more of the same teaching resources, but less.

Likewise, back in Taiwan this textbook based "drill and practice" teaching was accompanied with a "stick and carrot" incentive system. No open-forum based discussion group, the flow of information was one-sided, and the worst part was this was the norm even for art class!

In other words, the public education system throughout the developed nations all have the same teaching method, while ironically most private education sectors are the extreme of this case, with their high expectation of overachievers.

I know this for a fact because I was enrolled in a private elementary school back in Taiwan when I was a kid, and while I liked to facilitate my own learning in science, by myself reading and imagining a lot of scientific journals and facts. Reminiscing my learning experience I hated the classroom environment as well as the post-school prep class; it felt like I was nothing but a caged ape repeating what I was told, while I was constantly being compared to other apes on how well I can mimic an older one.

Regardless of the fact that I now feel like I wanna sue somebody for Grand Animal Cruelty, but when we're all guilty of the same crime due to we subjected ourselves under the very same education system. I think the priority one issue is an overhaul on our education, instead of us regressing ourselves further down to the realm of stupidity; by us hijacking our legislation with our greed and selfishness, because we all know just how big corporations hated competitions.

So with that said, any ideas?
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'I find the best way to learn something is have someone teach you how to gather information, then give you the tools.. and let you your self gather the information.
In other words teach a person how to find the information them selves.. then let them go free and explore for them selves.

I am also not a big fan of homework.. I find such devices tools for lazy boring teachers who should not be teaching in the first place.
The teachers only need to introduce a person to the tools needed to gather knowledge, after that a child should be able to learn and adapt.

I hate the fact I am popping another threads cherry!!! You know what I feel about that.
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

'I find the best way to learn something is have someone teach you how to gather information, then give you the tools.. and let you your self gather the information.
In other words teach a person how to find the information them selves.. then let them go free and explore for them selves.

I am also not a big fan of homework.. I find such devices tools for lazy boring teachers who should not be teaching in the first place.
The teachers only need to introduce a person to the tools needed to gather knowledge, after that a child should be able to learn and adapt.

I hate the fact I am popping another threads cherry!!! You know what I feel about that.
Yo! I was the one who started this whole messy debate. So you should be thanking me for spearheading the issue with a bang.

Ironically, your concept is in fact a work-in-progress in the India slumps. Not only that, it's also a proven method in adult education.

And speaking of letting the kids to tinker with real tools, here's another alternative learning program that took the concept to the extreme.

This led me think that not only playing is nature's solution for a fun and safe learning environment, while by playing with ideas can make people to become more creative. It's also important that we mustn't be afraid of adversity or even failure, otherwise we'll not be inspired to do anything. So long as we kept worrying about and shying from an unrealistic bottom-line known simply as uncertainty.
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Here in the state parents get a earn income tax credit. basically free money. I would tack the money back if the kid is not doing well in school getting the parent involved makes for a better school. Not the trash that show up at school board meetings just to complains. that all there good for. Paying well for good teachers well if the cant score in mid-900 SAT they have no business teaching
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tarakelly wrote:

Here in the state parents get a earn income tax credit. basically free money. I would tack the money back if the kid is not doing well in school getting the parent involved makes for a better school. Not the trash that show up at school board meetings just to complains. that all there good for. Paying well for good teachers well if the cant score in mid-900 SAT they have no business teaching
That will not work on the ground that you ended up suggesting the exact same teaching method that's inefficient and ineffective.

So once again, "how to solve this problem not with more of the same teaching resources, but less"? Keep in mind that an ideal education system should produce highly educated children who specialize in teaching themselves and each other, by them being capable to teach their own parents and to inspire even their mentors. Not them becoming a bunch of answering machines that can only repeat what they were told.

In other words, think about how can the "Diffusion of Innovations" be the key to innovate our education system? By utilizing its "tipping point effect" to make children to become more resourceful at educating themselves, while using less resources than the current public education system would require.

I could tell you the answer, but that would be the same as me going against my principle. When you already have all the tools that I used to construct the solution for myself.
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Yes I think your right I have noticed the school where the parents are really involved the school scores are better. And for the school that have low scores the parent are not involved. when i think it threw the parents not involved parable could not make the grade any ways. the parents that are could home school there kids anyways. I do not like Government run schools, I want to see better futer for the kids. Poor education leads the way to communism or government control I wished we had net and computers back then changing school ever year or two and the war at home I faced. Once label as stupid that pretty much it, In most school i test out at the top for comprehension. A long time ago i would say if I know were to get the information I can do it. Having large blocks of memory gave me hell. But that can only go so far spelling and writing that part of my brain never rewired very well.
Posted 5/13/10
America education was shit to begin with and this further proves it. Having an high school diploma does not mean shit wigh out the the means or the money to get an higher education but nice to know that I passed school with a 3.5 gpa and i am working as an cashier for 9 dollars an hour
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Hey I did not finish High school and went into the army for 3 years. I did get a GED before I went in other wise I would have join Marines or air force. I did get a high shcool diploma in the army. But getting out i knew further train was going to be needed. When I finished my three years I was still to young to drink. I tell the children i see plan on going to college your armed service to get the money to go. Right now the benefits are great. By the way i was making close to 90,000 a year in 87.
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These days, a BA/BS degree is not enough if you truly wish to secure your financial future. I'm not saying it is impossible to have benefits with a college degree, but it will be hard to get by at this time.
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So why do you not do something about it. Being angry and not think you need to go further with your education in this day and age is silly. Even I knew that it was not like 40, 50, and 60 just having a pulse you could get work. Middle 70 economy went bust; it took late 80’s for it to really take off. If you friendly and talk to people net work is very important. I got lucky and went into a specialized field and the danger long hours being on site 40 hour, get cat nap between tests was the norm 3500 hour billing time. I could go a month and never see home.
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What do you do with the teacher unions.
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What do you do with the teacher unions.


you do what one county does in a case if teachers go on strike, fire them all
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That sound great.
Posted 5/13/10
All education needs to be a fun process. If you sit in a classroom with a boring, doddering, old man, it tends to be very uninteresting.
Posted 5/13/10

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

America education was shit to begin with and this further proves it. Having an high school diploma does not mean shit wigh out the the means or the money to get an higher education but nice to know that I passed school with a 3.5 gpa and i am working as an cashier for 9 dollars an hour


Sucks to be us, eh? America the beautiful cesspool of semi-conscious, cancerous, obedient workers.
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