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Our Education needs an Overhaul
Posted 5/13/10

Glock45 wrote:

All education needs to be a fun process. If you sit in a classroom with a boring, doddering, old man, it tends to be very uninteresting.


well most of my teachers where female and between the ages of 25-45 so i really didn't have problem there, also I didn't mind the fact I got double d's ever now and then. Hope you get the pun
Posted 5/13/10 , edited 5/13/10

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Glock45 wrote:

All education needs to be a fun process. If you sit in a classroom with a boring, doddering, old man, it tends to be very uninteresting.


well most of my teachers where female and between the ages of 25-45 so i really didn't have problem there, also I didn't mind the fact I got double d's ever now and then. Hope you get the pun


LOL! Yeah, I knew a few good-looking ladies at the front of the class. One of them won a beauty pageant.
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Posted 5/13/10
Heck I just looked up information on the SAT it's up to 2400 point heck a potted plant can get 950 and you get to use calculators my god. Back when the best you could get was 1600 heck i hit over 1100. and I thought I was pretty dumb.I have ran into kid's the last five or so years telling me they made high 700 two low 800. and where going to college with these scores can somebody please tell me whats up with this?
Posted 5/13/10

tarakelly wrote:

What do you do with the teacher unions.
Since the goal is to get the children specializing in self-teaching, it's only fair that they too will be a part of the union. It's only fair that what's good for the teachers are good for the children.

Besides, with the way how uninteresting the public education is right now. It's not much of a difference whether the teachers were on strike or not:

Glock45 wrote:

All education needs to be a fun process. If you sit in a classroom with a boring, doddering, old man, it tends to be very uninteresting.



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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

America education was shit to begin with and this further proves it. Having an high school diploma does not mean shit wigh out the the means or the money to get an higher education but nice to know that I passed school with a 3.5 gpa and i am working as an cashier for 9 dollars an hour


Sucks to be us, eh? America the beautiful cesspool of semi-conscious, cancerous, obedient workers.
Careful now, with that belief you'll get stuck in a tribe that won't change anything on their own because they just don't standout.
Posted 5/14/10 , edited 5/14/10
This presentation also summarized a great deal of what I envision as the ideal overhaul for our education system. And it also inspired me into formulating the following:

What can be learned from a religious assumption of men were born helpless without God and His perfect plan? The answer: learned helplessness.

And when perfection signalizes the end of change, what's God and His plan but to deny human evolution? The answer: extinction in an ever changing and challenging environment.

So when perfection doesn't exist in nature, what does nature see in "perfection" as something that's simply outdated because its inability to change? Something that's other than the Rule 30 of chaotically complex behavior based on simple rules, which is anything but our own complex universe.
Posted 5/14/10
it we really want reform we need to raise our standards and have the same amount of eduction to be taught at everyone at the same time unless that person has a disability or mental defect. Also we need to stop this bullshit of paying schools that get "good test scores" and leave the other schools in the dust because they didn't meet some standard for them, I understand the need for testing but money is needed to be spread around evenly so all the schools will have the same advantage to teach the children more efficiently. Lastly we need have test to get in to middle and high school instead to letting people slide on in like they are now, it is so easy to slide through high school and barely pass but still able to get a diploma. All teens should have to past a exam to pass so the amount of education they have learned over the years. But this is just me =-=
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it we really want reform we need to raise our standards and have the same amount of eduction to be taught at everyone at the same time unless that person has a disability or mental defect. Also we need to stop this bullshit of paying schools that get "good test scores" and leave the other schools in the dust because they didn't meet some standard for them, I understand the need for testing but money is needed to be spread around evenly so all the schools will have the same advantage to teach the children more efficiently. Lastly we need have test to get in to middle and high school instead to letting people slide on in like they are now, it is so easy to slide through high school and barely pass but still able to get a diploma. All teens should have to past a exam to pass so the amount of education they have learned over the years. But this is just me =-=


Thats what happens when you let the government get their hands on anything, its get ruined, when the schools where run by the people, back in my dads day, the education standards where much much better. People were smarter too. When the government get its hands on our schools they were doomed.

Our government is incompetent, it destroys everything it touches.
Posted 5/14/10

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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it we really want reform we need to raise our standards and have the same amount of eduction to be taught at everyone at the same time unless that person has a disability or mental defect. Also we need to stop this bullshit of paying schools that get "good test scores" and leave the other schools in the dust because they didn't meet some standard for them, I understand the need for testing but money is needed to be spread around evenly so all the schools will have the same advantage to teach the children more efficiently. Lastly we need have test to get in to middle and high school instead to letting people slide on in like they are now, it is so easy to slide through high school and barely pass but still able to get a diploma. All teens should have to past a exam to pass so the amount of education they have learned over the years. But this is just me =-=


Thats what happens when you let the government get their hands on anything, its get ruined, when the schools where run by the people, back in my dads day, the education standards where much much better. People were smarter too. When the government get its hands on our schools they were doomed.


just like the new law that was passed in California that will send parents to jail if they children are truant for school and have to pay a fine up to 1000 dollars, just another reason for me not to have kids.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/parents/california-considers-jailing-p.html
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The school system doesn't need to be reformed. If we reform it then all that bureaucratic baggage will still be there. The current school system needs to be destroyed and re-built from the ground up.

Courses need to be changed also, instead of forcing kids to take classes which they're never going to use in real life, we should be teaching them essential skills to survive modern society. Like how to do taxes, file insurance, proper use of loans and credit cards, etc.

Many kids coming out of HS are completely clueless on how to do these things, and often get knee deep in debt in the first couple of years living away from coop.
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Posted 5/14/10

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The school system doesn't need to be reformed. If we reform it then all that bureaucratic baggage will still be there. The current school system needs to be destroyed and re-built from the ground up.

Courses need to be changed also, instead of forcing kids to take classes which they're never going to use in real life, we should be teaching them essential skills to survive modern society. Like how to do taxes, file insurance, proper use of loans and credit cards, etc.

Many kids coming out of HS are completely clueless on how to do these things, and often get knee deep in debt in the first couple of years living away from coop.


Exactly
Posted 5/14/10

Hawker wrote:

The school system doesn't need to be reformed. If we reform it then all that bureaucratic baggage will still be there. The current school system needs to be destroyed and re-built from the ground up.

Courses need to be changed also, instead of forcing kids to take classes which they're never going to use in real life, we should be teaching them essential skills to survive modern society. Like how to do taxes, file insurance, proper use of loans and credit cards, etc.

Many kids coming out of HS are completely clueless on how to do these things, and often get knee deep in debt in the first couple of years living away from coop.


this is why i never went to college but then again my parents never had college fund for me and that would have helped as well.
Posted 5/14/10

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it we really want reform we need to raise our standards and have the same amount of eduction to be taught at everyone at the same time unless that person has a disability or mental defect. Also we need to stop this bullshit of paying schools that get "good test scores" and leave the other schools in the dust because they didn't meet some standard for them, I understand the need for testing but money is needed to be spread around evenly so all the schools will have the same advantage to teach the children more efficiently. Lastly we need have test to get in to middle and high school instead to letting people slide on in like they are now, it is so easy to slide through high school and barely pass but still able to get a diploma. All teens should have to past a exam to pass so the amount of education they have learned over the years. But this is just me =-=
You are once again repeating the same failing education system by you relying on tests, which only generates answering machines but no real self-educators. When I was a high school student I didn't have time to study for tests, because I was tutoring other students only on the subjects that I was really good at.

Furthermore, more money doesn't equal to better teachers nor teaching materials. When real good teachers are the ones who can ended up doing their jobs with less, because they're resourceful with their creativity and originality.


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Thats what happens when you let the government get their hands on anything, its get ruined, when the schools where run by the people, back in my dads day, the education standards where much much better. People were smarter too. When the government get its hands on our schools they were doomed.

Our government is incompetent, it destroys everything it touches.
And you're the driver of your democratic government with your vote, yet the best you can do is ranting about how everything sucks.

If you ever became a leader with that attitude of yours, you'll be known as "stage 1" of the tribal leadership; the "life sucks and nobody likes me" tribe.

So good-luck with you on starting up your own business, 'cause you're gonna need it when nobody needs you.


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

just like the new law that was passed in California that will send parents to jail if they children are truant for school and have to pay a fine up to 1000 dollars, just another reason for me not to have kids.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/parents/california-considers-jailing-p.html
This is why I said so in the beginning that incentive doesn't make people to become creative with education. Therefore the problem that the current educators must face is thereby "why teach", not the unrealistic goal of "how to teach-less". So that we can become lifelong learners, not just a bunch of answering machines that can only repeat what they were told.


Hawker wrote:

The school system doesn't need to be reformed. If we reform it then all that bureaucratic baggage will still be there. The current school system needs to be destroyed and re-built from the ground up.

Courses need to be changed also, instead of forcing kids to take classes which they're never going to use in real life, we should be teaching them essential skills to survive modern society. Like how to do taxes, file insurance, proper use of loans and credit cards, etc.

Many kids coming out of HS are completely clueless on how to do these things, and often get knee deep in debt in the first couple of years living away from coop
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That doesn't make sense, as in how can everyone becoming accountants be the solution to an addiction known as the modern society.
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Posted 5/14/10
I wished that was true, the Atlanta schools 13,500 per student and are falling behind money is not the problem it is a cultural issue more than anything else. the outer counties spending half as much are doing better test wise.
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Posted 5/14/10
Money can not fix the schools problems, Government can set guidelines. The Government is in-conflict with teacher as voters and results the only real looser a children.
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Posted 5/14/10 , edited 5/14/10
Hell half the teacher cannot do it. I help some file out there returns. And the sad thing I is how much will i get back. This drives me nut's you loaned the government several thousand dollars at zero% and they do not get it are can not manage there money well enough to save. This what you get when teacher are the bottom college entrance exam's. I do agree the curriculum needs change in first grade I learned more about the way are economy worked then most kids do getting out of high school. There were some perks having a teacher who husband worked in the film department. Walt Disney world
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