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Our Education needs an Overhaul
Posted 5/15/10


dDom that is a bit of problem though I live in a pretty poor county. we have not bought new computers or text books since 1999 and that does hurt the way people teach if they stuck using out of date materials.Teachers can only use so much and without the right resources it does become a problem over time. On what California did i do not agree at all, one problem that does need to change is the fact that schools get money on how many kids show up, I mean just for showing up >_> for school that's not the point in school at all.
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Posted 5/15/10 , edited 5/15/10

DomFortress wrote:.

That doesn't make sense, as in how can everyone becoming accountants be the solution to an addiction known as the modern society.


That's not the point, what schools should be teaching is modern survival skills and helping kids find their niche in life. I can't tell you how many teens I've met who come out of HS not knowing what they want to do with their lives, instead they go to college at their parents insistence to get a bullshit degree and get a job that they don't want. As time goes on, parents are becoming more neglectful of their kids, not teaching them important life skills and as society has currently shown, schools and teachers are expected to take the nurturing role that modern parents no longer want. Schools have to fit this changing reality.

You know I'm very opposed to the concept of school, the prevailing myth of education is that it encourages free thinking and creativity, on the contrary it suppresses free thought and makes sure that people are incapable of thinking for themselves. But if we were to have schools, especially in modern times. Their role should be to teach survival skills in the modern jungle and to contribute to the personal growth of the students.
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Posted 5/15/10
The schools in this country were set up to just get you by to be good hard working people. They were never meant to crate allot of self sufficient, independent thinking people. If this happen government could not, imposes itself on the people. The most public/Government school where designed to get basic education nothing more. Problem with this system it worked to well. I have a beef with school the people that teach and run them. Most people that become teacher never worked in the private sector and do not have a clue. They buy into socialist trash taught by their professors. The people with PHD aka Piled Higher and Deeper, they tend to think there under paid and could solve the world’s problems. The schools are so into political correctness, that text books have been gutted text book. The zero tolerance policy should tell you even the people hire the principles and staff cannot be trusted to make good decision. So a, PhD. Cannot be trusted to make good decision this is pathetic. Young people high school most likely could not tell you how slavery started in the Americas. The banning of DDT we could have wiped out malaria for good, now each year people die from it. The poor birds that where dying from the poison, nobody mention they still died way after DDT was stop they found it was a parasite that was kill the birds. By the way Malaria and the mosquito that care it DDT will not work anymore. Karl Marx paper that finally got published as a book the, Manifesto of the communist party, way to long of a read three volume. I would keep it simple, The ten plank of the communism. Now, those text books are written in a way that distorts in an effort not to hurt somebody’s feeling. History should be straight forward with all angles mentioned on all sides. So we do not repeat the same mistake again but to alter it for feel good is sad. New dose not all was mean better. Al Gore movie had major flaws in it, yet some school show it as fact. the whole Government school system should completely over hauled
Posted 5/24/10 , edited 5/24/10
This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.
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Posted 6/2/10

DomFortress wrote:

This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.


Going to school doesn't necessarily offer jobs.
Wut needs to be done here is to realize wuts really going on
Posted 6/2/10

bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.


Going to school doesn't necessarily offer jobs.
Wut needs to be done here is to realize wuts really going on
Personally, I've gone back to college and am now studying sociology just to get to the bottom of this so-called reality known as human society. That, plus the fact that I really wasn't happy with my last job before they had to let me go without allowing me to collect my EI.
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Posted 6/2/10

DomFortress wrote:


bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.


Going to school doesn't necessarily offer jobs.
Wut needs to be done here is to realize wuts really going on
Personally, I've gone back to college and am now studying sociology just to get to the bottom of this so-called reality known as human society. That, plus the fact that I really wasn't happy with my last job before they had to let me go without allowing me to collect my EI.


Wut Our country needs is a choice between school and job training. Going to school doesnt always provide the best
Posted 6/2/10

bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.


Going to school doesn't necessarily offer jobs.
Wut needs to be done here is to realize wuts really going on
Personally, I've gone back to college and am now studying sociology just to get to the bottom of this so-called reality known as human society. That, plus the fact that I really wasn't happy with my last job before they had to let me go without allowing me to collect my EI.


Wut Our country needs is a choice between school and job training. Going to school doesnt always provide the best
So what? This is about pubic education overhaul, not the validity of public school system. So if you wanna abolish school than do so at your own expense, for I'll have you know that I don't take those who lacks critical thinking skill lightly.

BTW, do you think that without your own public educational experience, you could manage to learn how to type in English on your own?
Posted 6/2/10
With Texas being dumb-asses and getting dumb down text books to fit their agenda, I feel sorry for the eduction system now since they affect a lot of the surrounding states. It's nice to know that a one state can decide what needs to be taught and what doesn't so this affects the rest of the country. As far as I am concerned we need to get rid of Texas all together but hey that's just me. Here are some links if you want to read up what they cut out or decided to add. FUCK THEM
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/291207.php
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/texas-textbook-controversy-10714419
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031700560.html
http://trueslant.com/michaelpreston/2010/03/16/the-texas-textbook-controversy-and-the-failing-american-consensus/
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/texas-board-of-education-considers-making-history-lessons-more-conservative/19323135
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Posted 6/2/10

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

With Texas being dumb-asses and getting dumb down text books to fit their agenda, I feel sorry for the eduction system now since they affect a lot of the surrounding states. It's nice to know that a one state can decide what needs to be taught and what doesn't so this affects the rest of the country. As far as I am concerned we need to get rid of Texas all together but hey that's just me. Here are some links if you want to read up what they cut out or decided to add. FUCK THEM
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/291207.php
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/texas-textbook-controversy-10714419
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031700560.html
http://trueslant.com/michaelpreston/2010/03/16/the-texas-textbook-controversy-and-the-failing-american-consensus/
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/texas-board-of-education-considers-making-history-lessons-more-conservative/19323135


'Its only ethical that we drop a nuke on Texas in order to save the nation no the world!!! From their stupidity.'

We all be better off if most of the people there are wiped-out, and the pre-teen/children are re-educated to save them from Texas mindless brainwashing. But what did you expect wen you let ID "NUT JOBS" in charge of a state.
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Posted 6/2/10

DomFortress wrote:


bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.


Going to school doesn't necessarily offer jobs.
Wut needs to be done here is to realize wuts really going on
Personally, I've gone back to college and am now studying sociology just to get to the bottom of this so-called reality known as human society. That, plus the fact that I really wasn't happy with my last job before they had to let me go without allowing me to collect my EI.


Wut Our country needs is a choice between school and job training. Going to school doesnt always provide the best
So what? This is about pubic education overhaul, not the validity of public school system. So if you wanna abolish school than do so at your own expense, for I'll have you know that I don't take those who lacks critical thinking skill lightly.

BTW, do you think that without your own public educational experience, you could manage to learn how to type in English on your own?


Oh most def, get home schooled by someone eles, The validity of our public system is why ur calling for an overhaul no? The system is wrong, they tell us we need to go and continue our education to get good jobs when thats totally wrong. You dnt need to go to school to critically think, the act of determining the significance and meaning and validity of things to determine a solution, doesnt need to be learned at school, it just takes one to use ones brain. Theres plenty of smart people who are illiterate
Posted 6/2/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

With Texas being dumb-asses and getting dumb down text books to fit their agenda, I feel sorry for the eduction system now since they affect a lot of the surrounding states. It's nice to know that a one state can decide what needs to be taught and what doesn't so this affects the rest of the country. As far as I am concerned we need to get rid of Texas all together but hey that's just me. Here are some links if you want to read up what they cut out or decided to add. FUCK THEM
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/291207.php
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/texas-textbook-controversy-10714419
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031700560.html
http://trueslant.com/michaelpreston/2010/03/16/the-texas-textbook-controversy-and-the-failing-american-consensus/
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/texas-board-of-education-considers-making-history-lessons-more-conservative/19323135


'Its only ethical that we drop a nuke on Texas in order to save the nation no the world!!! From their stupidity.'

We all be better off if most of the people there are wiped-out, and the pre-teen/children are re-educated to save them from Texas mindless brainwashing. But what did you expect wen you let ID "NUT JOBS" in charge of a state.


well maybe not that far but sell it back to Mexico, i have family I do need to get out of Texas... Like they would listen to me sigh. This is just yeah... I mean shit I do not understand how this could happen each state should determine it's own studies not one state should decide for the rest.
Posted 6/2/10

bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


bigboobz wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

This also fits within the framework of my education overhaul.

I also find playing with kids using engaging activities, that involves with them getting active with their reality, has far more social benefits at the cost of less TV watching, video gaming, and text messaging...

OK, I honestly just couldn't see anything wrong with that.


Going to school doesn't necessarily offer jobs.
Wut needs to be done here is to realize wuts really going on
Personally, I've gone back to college and am now studying sociology just to get to the bottom of this so-called reality known as human society. That, plus the fact that I really wasn't happy with my last job before they had to let me go without allowing me to collect my EI.


Wut Our country needs is a choice between school and job training. Going to school doesnt always provide the best
So what? This is about pubic education overhaul, not the validity of public school system. So if you wanna abolish school than do so at your own expense, for I'll have you know that I don't take those who lacks critical thinking skill lightly.

BTW, do you think that without your own public educational experience, you could manage to learn how to type in English on your own?


Oh most def, get home schooled by someone eles, The validity of our public system is why ur calling for an overhaul no? The system is wrong, they tell us we need to go and continue our education to get good jobs when thats totally wrong. You dnt need to go to school to critically think, the act of determining the significance and meaning and validity of things to determine a solution, doesnt need to be learned at school, it just takes one to use ones brain. Theres plenty of smart people who are illiterate
As if you're one of those "smart" individuals who's illiterate? When you couldn't even identify just exactly what's wrong with the schools, before you just give it up like you're some kind of high school drop-out. While the system didn't fail you, it's you who failed yourself in the first place due to your rhetoric.

For example, do you even know for yourself just exactly what are you interested in? That you would learn how to master it no matter what it takes? And that it'll benefit more so than yourself because what you'll do has a purpose to contribute back to humanity? Until you can answer those with certainty, justification, and conviction, you don't know what critical thinking is for yourself.
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i'm a fan of school but not on the academic aspect. It's the only place where i see my friends (we lived in different city or district). Also, allowance is good. lol

academic wise, school is a nightmare for me. My biggest weakness was mathematics and during my senior year, i have like 4 subjects that involves math.

However, I have to say that in subjects like mathematics, the old school way of teaching is better than letting the child self study and explore.

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Overall, I think the method should be "those who want to learn, go to school. Those wo don't, maybe some other time."

I mean it is kinda easier if the willingness to learn is present rather than forcing something to a student.
Posted 6/2/10

alupihan45 wrote:

i'm a fan of school but not on the academic aspect. It's the only place where i see my friends (we lived in different city or district). Also, allowance is good. lol

academic wise, school is a nightmare for me. My biggest weakness was mathematics and during my senior year, i have like 4 subjects that involves math.

However, I have to say that in subjects like mathematics, the old school way of teaching is better than letting the child self study and explore.
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Overall, I think the method should be "those who want to learn, go to school. Those wo don't, maybe some other time."

I mean it is kinda easier if the willingness to learn is present rather than forcing something to a student.
That's because you already lost your individual willingness to learn and make sense of the real world in the first place, while at the same time all you cared about were social affirmation among your peers. And no, paying you to learn using monetary incentives like allowance just won't work on slacker like yourself for obvious reason.

Revise your statement and rethink your strategy, for you're not even thinking critically at all with your circular statement.
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