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What sort of a God(s) do you believe in?
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Posted 7/30/10

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Jesus was a Jew...Not a White Jew but not a Sandy Arab either


Jesus was half roman.. being the evidence points to his real father being a Roman solder who was out for a booty call.
The other half was indeed Arab.


Was not written in the Bible, Jesus was a Jew. If there is some historical evidence that said he was Arab, post where it is, It takes Faith to believe that his Father was The Lord of the Jews, I dont believe Jesus was a Sandy Arab nor a White Jew. But a Jew that looked Palestinian.


The Bible it self is not evidence. Try reading documents from Outside the bible..

'As for evidence of who Jesus father is....

1) We have two stories preserved in supplements to the Mishnah called the Tosefta (as well as in other parallel rabbinic texts but primarily see Tosefta Chullin 2:22-24) that refer to “Yeshu ben Pantera” (with alternate spelling variations). The first involves the famous Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus who lived in the late 1st and early 2nd century AD. Rabbi Eliezer relates a teaching in the “name of Yeshu ben Pantera” that he heard on the streets of Sepphoris from one Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin. Eliezer himself had been arrested for “heresy” and some have suspected he might have been sympathetic to the Nazarenes. The second story also involves Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin who attempts to heal a certain Rabbi Eleazar ben Dama of a snakebite in the name of “Yeshu ben Pantera.”

Although Maier and a few others have doubted these references are to Jesus of Nazareth, most experts are convinced that they are. Since both of these texts appear to use the designation “Yeshu ben Pantera” in a descriptive rather than a slanderous or polemical way they offer us evidence that Jesus was remembered as “son of Panthera” in the region of Galilee, and even on the streets of Sepphoris, in the early 2nd century. Indeed, Richard Bauckham argues quite persuasively that this Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin might well be James, son (or grandson?) of Jude the brother of Jesus, otherwise known to us as a prominent leader in the Galilean churches (pp. 114-119 of the Jude and the Relatives of Jesus). Check it out for your self.

2. The Greek philosopher Celsus relates in polemical work against the Christians preserved by the Christian theologian Origen that he had found it “written” that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier named Pantera (Contra Celsum 1. 69).

Their is more but at this time, I have to go..


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Posted 7/30/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Sulla wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Sulla wrote:

Jesus was a Jew...Not a White Jew but not a Sandy Arab either


Jesus was half roman.. being the evidence points to his real father being a Roman solder who was out for a booty call.
The other half was indeed Arab.


Was not written in the Bible, Jesus was a Jew. If there is some historical evidence that said he was Arab, post where it is, It takes Faith to believe that his Father was The Lord of the Jews, I dont believe Jesus was a Sandy Arab nor a White Jew. But a Jew that looked Palestinian.


The Bible it self is not evidence. Try reading documents from Outside the bible..

'As for evidence of who Jesus father is....

1) We have two stories preserved in supplements to the Mishnah called the Tosefta (as well as in other parallel rabbinic texts but primarily see Tosefta Chullin 2:22-24) that refer to “Yeshu ben Pantera” (with alternate spelling variations). The first involves the famous Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus who lived in the late 1st and early 2nd century AD. Rabbi Eliezer relates a teaching in the “name of Yeshu ben Pantera” that he heard on the streets of Sepphoris from one Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin. Eliezer himself had been arrested for “heresy” and some have suspected he might have been sympathetic to the Nazarenes. The second story also involves Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin who attempts to heal a certain Rabbi Eleazar ben Dama of a snakebite in the name of “Yeshu ben Pantera.”

Although Maier and a few others have doubted these references are to Jesus of Nazareth, most experts are convinced that they are. Since both of these texts appear to use the designation “Yeshu ben Pantera” in a descriptive rather than a slanderous or polemical way they offer us evidence that Jesus was remembered as “son of Panthera” in the region of Galilee, and even on the streets of Sepphoris, in the early 2nd century. Indeed, Richard Bauckham argues quite persuasively that this Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin might well be James, son (or grandson?) of Jude the brother of Jesus, otherwise known to us as a prominent leader in the Galilean churches (pp. 114-119 of the Jude and the Relatives of Jesus). Check it out for your self.

2. The Greek philosopher Celsus relates in polemical work against the Christians preserved by the Christian theologian Origen that he had found it “written” that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier named Pantera (Contra Celsum 1. 69).

Their is more but at this time, I have to go..



Rabbi Eliezer relates a teaching in the “name of Yeshu ben Pantera” that he heard on the streets of Sepphoris.
He heard on the streets?
Then Jesus has two names by the reference you gave Joshua or Jacob still it does not say if he was a Sandy Arab or not it would show. "Son of Panthera is not an Arab name." Not even enough info to show he was the son of a Roman but not a Sandy Arab.
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The Old Ones from the Cthulhu Mythos
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The sort of God who when creating the universe took the time to make even the weeds somehow lovely to behold.
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'What is a god?'

Did god create are planet, allows us to live, gives us light, feeds us, Gave us life?

Well then God is the sun or gravity, for the sun aided in earths creation, It allowed for all animals to come and evolve. An so if their must be a GOD its the sun.. And unlike other gods, I can see it, I know what its able to do.. And if I pray to it, My prayers will be answered at the same rate as if I was preying to any other object or god.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

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God is the one who created the universe and everything in it, he is the omnipotent watcher and protector of mankind.

He laid out his plan according to how he wants it to end, thus God controls history in accordance with how he wants it to end. It's almost like the history of our world is one grand story, a battlefield between good and evil.

God is the force of good in the universe, the Devil is the force of evil.
No good can be done in the Devil's name, while no bad can be done in God's name. If you do bad in God's name, you're really serving the Devil.

God created history and it is his alone, all the Devil can do is copy and manipulate what God has already created, thus the Devil is not original.

So in short, history is one big battleground, pathway, however you think of it, and God and the Devil are controlling and manipulating it in a continuing war with each other, but God has it mapped out so that it'll end in His favor. We're just stuck here in the flow of history until the End.

Yeah my views aren't the most positive, they're almost treating us like soldiers, or even pawns that either play in God or the Devil's favor.

Now I'm not going to be obnoxious and post several pages about what I define as God, so I'm just giving you the short version...
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