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Posted 5/18/10
I don't think it's a sickness, perhaps a misguided point of view. I've known a few women that felt the same way, maybe not full blown misogyny but similar opinions. I do think it's wrong to hate women, or men. Love your neighbor as yourself, and since everyone is your neighbor, then love everyone. Admittedly that's an extremely high standard to live up to. I know I can't do it.

I do think the statement about Eve is false. The serpent tempted her because she was probably the easier mark at that moment. If you look at what she told the snake it's fairly obvious that Adam had told her not to even touch the tree, which was in addition to what God had told Adam. I can see Adam saying what any guy would when he relayed the information to his wife (or any female), "You know what, don't even go near that tree over there, don't touch it, don't look at it and don't eat the fruit. Ignore it. Yeah that's just better." All the snake had to do was cast some doubt, make it look good and she did ate it.

She didn't force Adam to eat the fruit, she didn't seduce him and feed it to him. She didn't trick him, didn't slip it into his food or shove it down his throat while he slept or anything like that. She basically handed it to him, said a line and he ate it. Ultimately eating it and the consequences that followed for him were Adam's responsibility. It doesn't matter who gave it to him, he's the one that chose to eat it. You'll also notice everyone involved had a completely different set of punishments, including the snake. So that says to me, each of us is responsible for our own wrongdoing.

So don't hate women or anyone else. Eve wasn't responsible for the whole situation, just her own actions. As was Adam. If you want to hate something, hate whatever part of society mistreats and misguides women and makes them feel they have to do the things you so despise. Do the same for whatever part of society does the same for men too. We're all in it together.

If you need for whatever reason to find a woman that was smart, capable and talented, look at one of my personal heroes: Rear Admiral Grace Hopper. You can't deposit a check or use an ATM without the transaction going through some system that she had some sort of direct influence on.
Posted 5/18/10
There's a monologue that comes as part of the vagina monologues called "my short skirt", ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LClsKkfd2_8&feature=related ) and it pretty much speaks for why most women choose to dress sexily.

It's true that many of the women you decided to show here are, yes, quite slutty in their delivery of their particular outfits, however many women find the way they dress as a way of expressing themselves, uplifting their self-esteem, and liberating themselves as women. I know the feeling of a cool breeze under a sheer skirt on clean shaven legs is one of the best feelings the world has to offer--whether or not the person behind me happened to catch a glimpse of my silk panties.

It's true, there are some real bimbos out there making the rest of women look bad, but really, the rest of us just dress that way in order to feel free--not to pander to men in a sexual manner, but to feel confident in your own skin--no matter how much of it happens to be showing. Don't hate on women who just want to feel good about themselves--not everyone feels totally confident wearing baggy jeans and a turtleneck sweater. Most of us need air, rather than drowning ourselves in fabrics and shame.
Posted 5/18/10
I have no problem with a woman celebrating her womanhood and sexuality, but it is best when people have some modicum of self-respect rather than leaving nothing to the imagination for attention.
Posted 5/18/10

DerfelCadarn wrote:

Misanthropy is the real shit!


Fo shizzle.
Posted 5/18/10

-l-Kyle-I- wrote:

I have no problem with a woman celebrating her womanhood and sexuality, but it is best when people have some modicum of self-respect rather than leaving nothing to the imagination for attention.


Well BUH. XD of course. I was making the argument for the many folks doing it for themselves and NOT for attention. There's a reason for the term "attention whore". And there's also a reason why chicks get mad at guys who stare, even if there is little to the imagination. It's because they aren't dressing up for other people to look at, the'yre doing it for themselves. Also, to be honest, the whole "appropriate garb" thing is so relative to personal opinion. I personally don't think every girl who wears a short skirt an a low top is crying out for attention, or showing too much. To be honest, it looks good on some chicks XD so go them. I personally can never pull off hotpants, but a lot of girls can, and do, and I believe if they feel good about it they should be allowed to, and not be subject to masogyny.
Posted 5/18/10

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-l-Kyle-I- wrote:

I have no problem with a woman celebrating her womanhood and sexuality, but it is best when people have some modicum of self-respect rather than leaving nothing to the imagination for attention.


Well BUH. XD of course. I was making the argument for the many folks doing it for themselves and NOT for attention. There's a reason for the term "attention whore". And there's also a reason why chicks get mad at guys who stare, even if there is little to the imagination. It's because they aren't dressing up for other people to look at, the'yre doing it for themselves. Also, to be honest, the whole "appropriate garb" thing is so relative to personal opinion. I personally don't think every girl who wears a short skirt an a low top is crying out for attention, or showing too much. To be honest, it looks good on some chicks XD so go them. I personally can never pull off hotpants, but a lot of girls can, and do, and I believe if they feel good about it they should be allowed to, and not be subject to masogyny.


Misogynists are just lonely or gay. I wonder if I could pull off hot pants... hmmm...
Posted 5/18/10

-l-Kyle-I- wrote:

Misogynists are just lonely or gay. I wonder if I could pull off hot pants... hmmm...


Haha, I don't think I've ever herd of a gay misogynist, though I suppose that's possible. There are certainly some man-hating lesbians out there (whom I can't stand) It's always more fun to be bi, anyway--we just love everybody XD Speaking of hotpants, go for it! I certainly won't stop you X3
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to be honest..everybody is fucked up, one way or another......and i do mean EVERYBODY, including you and me
so who cares?
Posted 5/19/10

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I'm not cool with it because it's discrimination which is pretty shitty. Women annoy the hell out of me too, and I am one, but that doesn't mean that they're all wicked bitches and deserve to be hated because of what gender they are. It's ridiculous to make blanket statements like that.


LOL...good statement...totally agree

U cant hate the whole female population just because you don't like a few of them. Jeez, that's just stupid. No, i think you don't think you need therapy, because your probably just over-reacting. Seriously, you tell me you hate ur Mum, sister, cousins, grandma, or some special female you look up to, then i think you should get therapy, other wise... GET OVER IT. There always something your not gonna agree with in the world. The world, and the people in it are changing, for better and for worse. it's the course of nature... Don't tell me your gonna hate on nature too now.


I said I hate women in whole as gender, not persons (but if she is good i would be just being indifferent). I love my mom or sister as person, not as female gender. My sister is also misogynist but me and sister are best friend so at that time i know siblings who are not women-haters but they always quarrel with each other for trifles.

Posted 5/19/10

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Mushroomfight wrote:

What do you think of it?

i hate females, u think i need to to go therapist? So you think that Leonardo da Vinci, Aristotle and Plato are required to go to therapist?
I have a reasonable reasons to hate women's gender, first; women are corrupted, look at TV, at magazines, and indeed on the street, you will see the womens that reveals their body, they wears mini-skirts and mini-shorts, too tight clothes. Not only in life but also in art, music and painting, almost all the famous women behaving like a prostitute, just look at the Anime or real life.

Observing naked girl\woman for me is disgusting, because i'm a girl of high moral and standards. That is to say that we can see the women undressed, not a men.
You know about famous girlbands and female performers? like pussycatdolls, spicegirls, or britney spears, madonna, beyonce, lady gaga, toni braxton mariah carey, rihanna, fergie, christina aguilera, gwen stefani, miley cyrus, avril lavigne, katy perry, they are all are not chaste women, they are filthy and dirty prostitutes.


In general almost of those girls had plastic surgery, they want to look prettier than the are in real.
The second reason is; womens nine times corrupted then men, four times the cowardly, 2 times more hungrier and greedier. They are weak, untalented and stupid (in general). Take a note that among the famous and talented people, more men, artists, politicians, philosophers, scholars, athletes and geniuses.
Regards for my personal and sister's opinion women are sickly-sweet, bad, naughty, nasty, filthy, envious, jealous.
"Not for nothing that the first Eve succumbed to the temptation of Satan and she had bite the fruit of sin, and she then seduced Adam." Maybe it's just pretty good legend but it shows what the nature of women.



I am not qualified to state why a person can be misogynistic. They probably never had a mother or maybe because they did! No I guess it's some really bad experience a person couldn't shake. How about misandry: a hatred of males. Or even more broader misanthropy: a hatred, dislike or mistrust of humankind.

I say a lot of blame falls on men. You should have misandry brewing inside you instead. I'm not a sociologist or historian though I am aware of men in backward societies assigning women into over simplistic roles and denial of education to them. It's not the case for every society though, look up on the net and I'm sure you'll find a great many societies were women were adorned, revered and placed in highly utilitarian roles. If this was the case more often there'd be so much more women having accolades, as just as many men. Blame ignorance and unfounded thinking to the unfairness towards the genders. And hey, so long as horny blokes want women, they'll be always such a market to exploit. Sex sells whether advertising is aimed at male or female consumers. Men and women have just as many faults as the other.


Tell me even if one great genius of history who was misandric.
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Mushroomfight wrote:


Tell me even if one great genius of history who was misandric.



This is also relevant to my interests.
Posted 5/19/10

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Mushroomfight wrote:


darkangle95 wrote:

hmm usually is is psychological..they should go to a therapist ^^


i had see therapist, he said that i'm healthy and MISOGYNY is not a sickness.


it is not a sickness..it is a state of the mind where the person tends dislike girls for w/e reason the person has..and let me tell ya not all girls are like whores who wanna show their body you see the t.v and believe everything. not everything in the tv is true -.-' you should open your eyes and look at the people around ya there are some who cover their skins alot : ) as a girl i understand we can get annoying but NOT EVERYONE is a whore who wants people to look at their skin : )


Haha! don't make me laugh! every time i walk on the street and there is lot of envious looks from women, they wearing shorts and revealing their body. I said in general, I didn't said all women are sluts, but generally they are corrupted gender like it was popular in ancient Greece.

Posted 5/19/10

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Not all of us dress that way. Nor do we all play mind game. Some of us are down to earth people. I understand why you would be irritated with females, the way TV portrays females is very unflattering. I have several great girl friends..... don't hate us all.


Of course not all, but in whole yes. I don't said ALL, i said IN GENERAL, maybe if i'll meet you, i'll talk with you if i should know who you are i can be your friend but FEMALE GENDER will remained to me as the less gender.
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Each to their own. People can be rotten to the core regardless of gender identity though, just remember that.
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Mushroomfight wrote:


darkangle95 wrote:


Mushroomfight wrote:


darkangle95 wrote:

hmm usually is is psychological..they should go to a therapist ^^


i had see therapist, he said that i'm healthy and MISOGYNY is not a sickness.


it is not a sickness..it is a state of the mind where the person tends dislike girls for w/e reason the person has..and let me tell ya not all girls are like whores who wanna show their body you see the t.v and believe everything. not everything in the tv is true -.-' you should open your eyes and look at the people around ya there are some who cover their skins alot : ) as a girl i understand we can get annoying but NOT EVERYONE is a whore who wants people to look at their skin : )


Haha! don't make me laugh! every time i walk on the street and there is lot of envious looks from women, they wearing shorts and revealing their body. I said in general, I didn't said all women are sluts, but generally they are corrupted gender like it was popular in ancient Greece.



I have no interest in making you laugh. Anywayz if you think that i can only say you yourself are corrupted. Ha don't tell me you wear a long dress that reaches your foot and a veil that covers your whole face and not even showing your eyes?stop kidding i bet you wear pants and shirt too so you think that is not showing skin? that is showing skin alright. And also what others wear if you don't like it then it is your business. You can't change others and their culture what they want to wear is what they want to wear. So you hating women just cuz of the way they dress is not really reason enough because it is none of your business what they wear.....
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