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jasamaja wrote:


loadeddragon wrote:

yeah like extasy was givin in the 50s and 60s as like medicine to help couple with bad sex lives....man its not about what kills or what is from the earth or even how people mess up there lives its about the government who cant make any money off it so they spend billions pretending to fight it!!!....call me crazy!


The Government is just too corrupted, this poeple up there don't give a shit about the druggies, all that counts is money, and as this illegal drugs don't bring anything into their banks, they don't like the Idea that someone might earn money in another way. Those politicians earn so much money, and for nothing, they only bring troubles. The only reason why tobacco and alcohol are allowed is because of the money that goes into the pockets of the Government. This tobacco concerns pay the corrupted politicians a lot of money and they go over bodies. Who wouldn't take the money? There is this newer movie about it, I think it is called "Thank You for Smoking", though I never watched.

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damn straight man!!!....its all about money man!!!....who care about the people!!
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You cant stop tobacco company from producing cigarettes. Do you know how many people smoke in this world? Do you know some(most) people go crazy without a cigarette?

alcohol are legal because it is depend on how much you drank. If you drink a little, nothing will happen.
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jasamaja wrote:


loadeddragon wrote:

yeah like extasy was givin in the 50s and 60s as like medicine to help couple with bad sex lives....man its not about what kills or what is from the earth or even how people mess up there lives its about the government who cant make any money off it so they spend billions pretending to fight it!!!....call me crazy!


The Government is just too corrupted, this poeple up there don't give a shit about the druggies, all that counts is money, and as this illegal drugs don't bring anything into their banks, they don't like the Idea that someone might earn money in another way. Those politicians earn so much money, and for nothing, they only bring troubles. The only reason why tobacco and alcohol are allowed is because of the money that goes into the pockets of the Government. This tobacco concerns pay the corrupted politicians a lot of money and they go over bodies. Who wouldn't take the money? There is this newer movie about it, I think it is called "Thank You for Smoking", though I never watched.

Flo~


Eh, tobacco tax dose not go directly into politicians pockets. Along with Alcohol. Where did pull the shit out of? All that tax money goes into the federal budget for paying for other things.

The reason they Tax tobacco is so they can discourage people from buying more of it. Especially poor people. They want them to stop using it buy cigarettes and go use it to buy food.
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i think if you dont control it dont take it
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If you have a cigarette twice a week when you went out nothing would happen.
If you have a joint once a week after work nothing will happen.
If you have a 2-3 pints of beer when you go out nothing will happen.
If you take a line of coke on your birthday nothing will happen.
If you eat mushrooms at a music festival nothing will happen
If you.... e.t.c
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jasamaja wrote:


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because Drugs like Marijuana, Heroin and Cocaine can and will ruin lives...mainly heroin and cocaine...



Okay, this is really pointless. What about alcohol? It ruined so many lifes by now, so it should be illegal too, or not?
Yes, I do admit that drugs can ruin lifes, but you can ruin your life also in another way.
So your reasoning kinda sucks...
Maybe you didn't read my quote..otherwise you wouldn't have said that right now.

Flo~


They did make alcohol illegal in the past (at least in the U.S.). It did not work out great.
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cocky wrote:

If you have a cigarette twice a week when you went out nothing would happen.
If you have a joint once a week after work nothing will happen.
If you have a 2-3 pints of beer when you go out nothing will happen.
If you take a line of coke on your birthday nothing will happen.
If you eat mushrooms at a music festival nothing will happen
If you.... e.t.c


Nothing will happen in the short run...
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Eh, tobacco tax dose not go directly into politicians pockets. Along with Alcohol. Where did pull the shit out of? All that tax money goes into the federal budget for paying for other things.

The reason they Tax tobacco is so they can discourage people from buying more of it. Especially poor people. They want them to stop using it buy cigarettes and go use it to buy food.


Bull. Though I hate doing the whole typical lefty 'omg teh governments are out to get us!' schtick, cigarettes like speed cameras and other nonsensical crap are purely for money making.

In England I pay 500% tax on a pack of smokes, I'd buy a pack if it was 50 pence, or if it were 10 pounds, they know this, so they will squeeze every last drop they can. Besides to paraphrase Bill Hicks "It's a good job I'm smoking so they can keep building those roads you can get fucked up drunk and drive on"

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people who want it legalized obviously have no grasp of how terrible some drugs could be

maybe just pot cause its actually possible to do that in moderation, but i dunt wanna hear that medical benefits from pot bullshit

u cant make alcohol illegal, been tried before and look at the mess that happened with gang wars and crap, itd be uncontrollable in todays world if u start making alcohol illegal

ive never heard of a murderer released in a few years, or someone in possession(not dealing?) of drugs in jail for a century



Well I heard of such cases. (Im referring to the last quote)
Is dealing worse than killing innocent poeple for joy?..I just say that it is inadequate.=P

Flo~



killing 100 people, or a dealer passing out cocaine, etc to 100 people

its not worse, its the same, the drugged up 100 people would just die slower

wat drug do u want legalized anyways, and which drugs do u actually do, if only just pot then pot is the only one that has a chance of being legal

if u start doing crack or something then u wouldnt make this topic, ud be too busy dying
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mrtictac wrote:

people who want it legalized obviously have no grasp of how terrible some drugs could be

maybe just pot cause its actually possible to do that in moderation, but i dunt wanna hear that medical benefits from pot bullshit

u cant make alcohol illegal, been tried before and look at the mess that happened with gang wars and crap, itd be uncontrollable in todays world if u start making alcohol illegal

ive never heard of a murderer released in a few years, or someone in possession(not dealing?) of drugs in jail for a century



I obviously dont know?

Last week I met my best friend from school randomly in the street. I hadn't seen him in 3 years. I went back to his place, where he tied a lace around his arm and shot up smack. There was a crack pipe in the corner and his girlfriend staggered in at this time to try to scrounge money of me to score more.

As for alcohol, are you fuckers serious? Without going into my own family for obvious reasons, my mothers friends dad was a drunk, naturally beating ocurred e.t.c. One night he raped her. Before trying to force her to have the fucking baby.

That was an unfairly extreme example, but the comment pissed me off, and I went for shock value. It's true, but that isn't much of an excuse.



wait, so ur friend just fucked up his life and his gf is messed up too, and u STILL want drugs to be legalized?
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Apothem wrote:


cocky wrote:

If you have a cigarette twice a week when you went out nothing would happen.
If you have a joint once a week after work nothing will happen.
If you have a 2-3 pints of beer when you go out nothing will happen.
If you take a line of coke on your birthday nothing will happen.
If you eat mushrooms at a music festival nothing will happen
If you.... e.t.c


Nothing will happen in the short run...


And in the long run I'll suddenly drop down dead? Don't be ridiculous.

It won't affect you in the slightest. Not one Iota. Not a jot.

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cocky wrote:


Apothem wrote:


Eh, tobacco tax dose not go directly into politicians pockets. Along with Alcohol. Where did pull the shit out of? All that tax money goes into the federal budget for paying for other things.

The reason they Tax tobacco is so they can discourage people from buying more of it. Especially poor people. They want them to stop using it buy cigarettes and go use it to buy food.


Bull. Though I hate doing the whole typical lefty 'omg teh governments are out to get us!' schtick, cigarettes like speed cameras and other nonsensical crap are purely for money making.

In England I pay 500% tax on a pack of smokes, I'd buy a pack if it was 50 pence, or if it were 10 pounds, they know this, so they will squeeze every last drop they can. Besides to paraphrase Bill Hicks "It's a good job I'm smoking so they can keep building those roads you can get fucked up drunk and drive on"



Money making yes, but money-making-to-make-more-money-for-politicians, no. It's a double edge blade. Take more money from you to discourage you from smoking and more money to spend for the people.


cocky wrote:


Apothem wrote:


cocky wrote:

If you have a cigarette twice a week when you went out nothing would happen.
If you have a joint once a week after work nothing will happen.
If you have a 2-3 pints of beer when you go out nothing will happen.
If you take a line of coke on your birthday nothing will happen.
If you eat mushrooms at a music festival nothing will happen
If you.... e.t.c


Nothing will happen in the short run...


And in the long run I'll suddenly drop down dead? Don't be ridiculous.

It won't affect you in the slightest. Not one Iota. Not a jot.



tell that to lung cancer and kidney stones.
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wait, so ur friend just fucked up his life and his gf is messed up too, and u STILL want drugs to be legalized?


Yes. I used that example to make that very point.

People will fuck themselves over. They always will. Now I don't know about you but I'd prefer it if I knew he wasn't buying that shit from some random guy in the street.
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To be clear I don't want Crack or Heroin legalised, but in the case of my buddy, my above point still stands true.

Lung Cancer from a couple of cigarettes a week!? Give me a break.

I smoke around 10 a day, I have no excuses whatsoever. I don't intend to stop, despite knowing the risks. You have a case with me, but not with the casual drinker who smokes one every now and then when out with friends.
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