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A question to Anti fans of SNSD
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LeeUBunny wrote:

KyuubiBear is making logical comments and you can't expect her comments. So why should i post my comments? So you can quote them endlessly. No thank you. I will pass. Peace Out.


Wtf. That's exactly what I said - she is making logical comments, and I accept them. Read above.

What's wrong with quoting comments and having a decent debate? It's better than just calling other people idiots. I'm still not particularly happy about you calling me an idiot when you don't effing know me. If you were smart yourself, then maybe I wouldn't care as much - but thing is, you sound kinda stupid. I was only making points, just like the antis were, as to why people should not hate SNSD. What the hell is wrong with that?!

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Hey you guys should read this...

It's quoted from Soshified, everyone should read this, tell me what you think.

Auratus. Soshified
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gaga1992 wrote:

Hey you guys should read this...

It's quoted from Soshified, everyone should read this, tell me what you think.

Auratus. Soshified


I love it...
I watched the Chocolate episode..
And it's really heartwarming...
I can't forget what tiffany said there,
"What i want to say to my mom is, although she departed from me first, she gave me eight sisters... and i want to thank both mom and God..."
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divaroxy wrote:


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SNSD Fans are idiots and hypocrites. Flat out. I am done.


True very True.


Right... So I'm and Idiot huh...




No, don't ever think that! Take my example, and this is real before you start questioning me.

I LOVE K-POP, my boyfriend's friend LOVES country music, another one of my boyfriend's friend LOVES Cambodian music, and my boyfriend LOVES sad love songs, but we are still able to sit together and listen to what each of our taste in music. Sure, the one that LOVES country music would make unpleasant remarks about my taste in music (well, more on the male singers/group, but he is fine looking at the girls ::rolling my eyes::) . Well, what I am trying to tell you is, even though he insults K-POP, that will NEVER stop me from liking K-POP, until I get tired of it.

So , if you enjoy listening to SNSD, keep on listening to them and supporting them. And if someone dislikes you because of that, then it is that person lost for even judging you like that.

P.S. Just to let you know, I am not a fan of SNSD's songs because it doesn't appeal to me.




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gaga1992 wrote:
Hey you guys should read this...
It's quoted from Soshified, everyone should read this, tell me what you think.
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Auratus. Soshified

To be honest a lot of this too opinionated, actual evidence of actions would be better rather than speculation about her behaviour...

To take a leap of faith like she did, coming by herself to a foreign country, and fully embracing it. Think of what that means, the language, the customs, the food, waving a freaking lollipop (ask any valley girl to do that and you're risking life and limb, seriously), the culture of respect, you know none if it was easy.

To be honest this quote could also be said the exact same about Hangeng of Super Junior and just about anybody who moves to a foreign country. I don't see how this is a reason to admire someone...

But she did all that, and then she climbed on top of a very precarious mountain, not by pushing others off, but by helping and holding tight to those around her. Really, this is something more than remarkable. What strength of character that took. What belief in herself, and her dreams that showed.

^ This statement isn't really based on anything at all...

"If they could walk 10 steps in her shoes, they'd have nothing but admiration and love for her."
This comment actually annoys me due to the writer suggesting we'd all love her like we don't have our own opinions and perspective

Honestly I haven't seen much of the other examples the writer's quotes so I can't comment on them. But it honestly sounds just like SuJu, DBSK and other bands from SM, practicing for hours, singing till they vomit blood, exhaustion and during their trainee years being homeless and struggling with schedules.

*might as well reply to DiamondsForever while I'm here, honestly thought this thread was dead*

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Meh. What can you do though? It is the internet and certain people can't help but use short form - let them be ^^ And yeah - I agree. But to be fair, she is 14.

The thing is, that info you got from the internet is mostly about Tiffany and Taeyeon, the rest of the girls have actually done nothing wrong. I think that it's really unfair how people always judge SNSD as a whole group based on Tiffany's and Taeyeon's actions.

I don't see why the industry they're in has to be connected to whether they are virgins or not. I can guarantee that more than half of them are definitely virgins. When you watch them in shows rather than performances, sometimes you can't help but be amazed at how naively innocent they seem to be.

I'll never understand why people treat keyboards like cellphones and type "liek dis".
I'm afraid the younger generations think this is "cool" because so many teens are typing this way.
=_= Little kids shouldn't be on the internet. I didn't need internet growing up...

It's like being singled out of a group or a stereotype. If one person stands out with a certain attribute, others in the group will be judged and labeled on that as well. If one girl is rude, it ruins the entire groups image.

And the industry, if someone gives off a sexual image and is at an age where you know they're had relationships.
When you see them "virgin" isn't the first word that comes to mind

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Posted 5/27/10
Hmm..

This is just me okay? (I don't want to offend anyone or start a fight. I'm simply stating my views. Please excuse me if I might say something that offends someone.)

I'm a big fan of SNSD but not to the point where I obsess over them. I would be lying if I said that I don't idolize them because of their looks. It's true that the girls have their own physical charms and attributes but that isn't the only reason why I like them. Some Anti's and haters (or maybe all, I'm not entirely positive) will bash any small flaw that they might spot on any of the girls. For example, the topics flying about all over the internet saying that the girls went through plastic surgery.

As a fan, I find this very offensive because in the first place there might not even be any proof that relates to this. Secondly, assuming so would just be plain rude and mean. See, there are actual chances that someone will undergo a drastic change from their childhood to adulthood. It's unfair to assume that someone had plastic surgery just because their appearance took on a drastic change. If you guys don't believe me then I'll be more than happy to give you examples.

Anyway, moving on.

SNSD's music might not be up to snuff for some people but to say that they are talentless? Now, that's just inappropriate. I'll admit, there are many other artists out there that are better singers and dancers than they but you'd have to be blind to be unable to see that the girls are trying so hard in their careers. For people like us who aren't in their shoes we can easily assume things like, "Sure, they get tired too..blah..blah..blah..so what?" and such. I firmly believe that the nine girls of SNSD aren't spoiled little brats who just keep using auto tune and stuff. Not everyone in the group can sing unbelievably well but they try to make up for it in other ways. Take Hyoyeon for example, she's not exactly the best singer out there but her dancing skills make up for it. Besides there are actually great singers in the group.

The last thing I'd like to mention is their attitude and the bond they all have. As I was reading this thread I noticed quite a number of posts mentioning dislike for Tiffany. If you read the post by gaga1992 containing the spoiler then you'd understand how and why Tiffany is the way she is. As for the members of SNSD being rude, ignorant and all those negative things, try to consider the fact that they are still human.

Now, this just might be because I'm a SONE but SNSD aren't what Anti fans and Haters say they are. Sure, they occasionally display childishness and rudeness but it's not because they have bad manners or anything. It's most likely just a way of showing a lighter side to themselves. It's kind of difficult to describe them but try watching videos and reading articles about SNSD that aren't mentioned by Anti fans. SNSD may not be the perfect girl group but at least they're genuine. In one video (I forgot which one, sorry.) the girls mentioned they're not hiding anything from the fans, which means that they're not just putting up a fake image.

There are countless accounts of people too that had a chance to talk to or meet the members on the streets or movie theaters and they all say that the members act just as how they act on shows or awards.

This might not be the most justified argument I could put up as a SONE but one thing is for sure a true SONE does not bash other groups just because Anti's are bashing SNSD. In a statement by one of the admins in Soshified, she clearly mentioned that a SONE respects all other idol groups regardless if the fans of these groups are bashing SNSD. It does not mean however that SONE's do not care that SNSD is being bashed but rather will find other ways to protect and gain the respect of others in a much more peaceful and less hateful means.

As a SONE I can't ask an Anti fan or a hater to simply like SNSD because I asked them to. No, all I could ask is for them to respect the girls and the group and not bring up anymore topics that falsify their image or intend to tarnish the group's name (as well as the members).


v This interview was taken from Soshified. I hope this would show that the members of SNSD aren't "sluts" or "talentless" and "spoiled" as some would say. (Sorry about the â?? stuff I'm too lazy to remove them. ^^;)
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Posted 5/28/10

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It's like being singled out of a group or a stereotype. If one person stands out with a certain attribute, others in the group will be judged and labeled on that as well. If one girl is rude, it ruins the entire groups image.


Now this is where I really disagree. I don't see anyone hating Super Junior or DBSK because Kangin did a hit and run (and took part in that one fight) and Jaejoong was caught driving under the influence. Both of these incidences were beyond stupid of the two involved, but again, they're only human and they apologized for acting in such a way. Fans still remain supportive despite their mistakes, and Sones don't hold these things against them either - there's a video of Sones cheering SuJu when they were performing during Dream Concert 2010.

Also, imagine if a SoShi member happened to be involved in a scandal like that - all hell would break loose amongst the antis.

To be quite honest, I used to be an anti of SNSD - for pretty much the same reasons as all you guys. But, if you watch their first reality show - Girls Go To School, you might honestly change your mind.


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Posted 5/28/10

gaga1992 wrote:


divaroxy wrote:


LeeUBunny wrote:

SNSD Fans are idiots and hypocrites. Flat out. I am done.


True very True.


Right... So I'm and Idiot huh...


You're not a idiot. You are a boy and boys like anything in tight clothing and slutty.
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Now this is where I really disagree. I don't see anyone hating Super Junior or DBSK because Kangin did a hit and run (and took part in that one fight) and Jaejoong was caught driving under the influence. Both of these incidences were beyond stupid of the two involved, but again, they're only human and they apologized for acting in such a way. Fans still remain supportive despite their mistakes, and Sones don't hold these things against them either - there's a video of Sones cheering SuJu when they were performing during Dream Concert 2010.

Also, imagine if a SoShi member happened to be involved in a scandal like that - all hell would break loose amongst the antis.

To be quite honest, I used to be an anti of SNSD - for pretty much the same reasons as all you guys. But, if you watch their first reality show - Girls Go To School, you might honestly change your mind.


Just like SNSD fans are still supportive of SNSD even though some members are rude. Because fans know each person in the group, while people who don't know them judge them as a group.

"Also, imagine if a SoShi member happened to be involved in a scandal like that - all hell would break loose amongst the antis. "
It must also be the same for the anti fans of SuJu and DBSK when they make mistakes (assuming the anti fans have a reason for their anti-ness).

When Kangin and Jaejoong were DUI, I'm sure fans were disappointed, they completely humiliated themselves. Kangin's drinking did effect my opinion on SuJu as a group, I think both should quit drinking.

Though making a mistake like DUI is kinda different from going on a talk show and accidentally being rude.
One's drunk and the other isn't.

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i'm still a fan but right now i prefer 4-minute....but i think most famous idol groups have antis anyway..so doesn't really matter
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Just ignore the antis and people who keeps wanting to say negative things about SNSD. While they want to say they have their reasons for saying that, to a Korean like me they are just talking out of ignorance we laugh at them. Believe me everything negative said about SNSD has been proven false or found overblown in Korea. The fact now is Korean people never saw anything really true in them. Instead SNSD showed how likeable and and good personality they are. Just look at how it is in Korea, SNSD is the most beloved idol in Korea. Not just teenagers but people of all age sex love SNSD it is proved in business performed polls too (like Gallop and Lispia). If you live in Korea you can actually feel how people all ages around you know and like SNSD. It is impossible to get CF if you have bad image in Korea, but SNSD is the idol with the most big name CFs in Korean history. So what does that tell you? SNSD is not perfect, they're just human with flaws too, but everybody in Korea agree that they earned their way to the top.

In Korea even antis don't use old FALSE rumors like "SNSD is rude" no more because nobody believes them now. And Korean antis only active in abnormal sites because normal Korean fans would crush them. As Korean very disappointed to see ignorant posters in this normal Crunchyroll site... People like KyuubiBear think they are antis with <reason and logic> , no it's just a person with ignorance and unnecessary hatred. Do you think if I was to translate that and post on normal Korean site there will be Korean people agreeing with you KyuubiBear? You read some translated stuff and you feel you are expert about judging people in Korea? 그런 교만이 해외팬을 어떤 이미지로 만드는지 아는가.

Idiots like KyuubiBear and others here give bad name to international fans. Yeah sure you don't have to get acceptance from us Koreans but we still watch you. If you don't like a group fine. Just keep it to yourself. KyuubiBear go learn proper knowledge and history of kpop before discussing your <opinions>. Come visit me on Korean sites I am an active member on all the major Korean kpop sites and we can have a proper discussion there if you are willing. If you want to reply to me you better prove that you are qualified with your knowledge but from what I saw of you, you know crap about our culture and music. Reading rumors on internet and thinking they're kpop experts... What an arrogance and hubris. 쓰다보니 빡치게 만드네 이것들이 I support many many kpop groups and never anti of anyone. I am saying this firmly, total ignorant idiots like KyuubiBear pretending to be <logical> just makes international fans look really bad to us Koreans. If you don't care, fine. But we Koreans care and we will continue to support all our artists equally against these idiots.
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Again I want to stress that false rumors and accusations against SNSD posted by the idiot KyuubiBear are all debunked in Korea. You antis want to wish I was lying but... well can the antis come up with a recent Korean link that still says SNSD is rude? They can't because no such thing exists any more, try find me one on major Korean kpop sites like bestiz, dcinside, telzone and so on. So do not believe these false snsd rumors posted and spread by idiot antis like KyuubiBear.

On the other hand many other groups and fanclubs have caused real trouble in Korea. You can easily find them on bestiz and others but I won't translate them and post here. There's more to stuff than what you read on allkpop. But because I support other artists too I don't go around spreading negativity about other artists unlike the idiot trolls like KyuubiBear.

My first fanclub was Shinhwa I've seen them personally many times, one of the best things about them is their close bond. I also became SNSD fan because SNSD's close bond too, and I've seen them too at fan signings, they are real. We love the fact that our artists are loved by fans from overseas but we hate that trash like KyuubiBear are around, making the whole international fans look bad.
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@Yungtan
All of a sudden I'm an idiot for not knowing up to date facts on Korean pop stars?
So I'm trash for not speaking Korean yet having an opinion on an image a that Kpop group have?
Some of the stuff you said doesn't make sense. I make International fans look bad? I'm not an international fan.

DiamondsForever has my respect, destroying the stereotype that fans aren't all rabid and insult anyone who disagrees.
Yet you, Yungtan, chooses to insults me with your arguments.
I would have respected you, but you just sound like a rabid fan.

And this thread was asking about the SNSD lovers and haters so I gave my opinion here.

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You are a trash KyuubiBear I already explained why you are. That is how us Koreans look at you. You don't know jack anything about our culture and music and you start calling our artist sluts without basis you are going be called a trash not because we are mad but because of your idiocy and malicious existence.

Shut you ugly mouth or come up with something that we can understand, something that us Koreans can feel that you have a valid argument. You simply do not have one because you already proved that you are simply an ignorant immature troll hiding behind a keyboard. 이 오크년아 너 한번 열빡친 한국인의 모습이 어떤건지 보여줄까. 말이라도 되야 상대를 해주지 이 쓰레기 같은 종자년이

God I cant believe trash like you even exist in kpop fandom. Your profile says you like DBSK and Suju. I am a longtime fan of DBSK and I support Suju, it is sickening that a person like you is a fan of them. My favorite Suju member is Heechul. When us Koreans went through the big national candle vigil protest Heechul was not afraid of the powerful politicians and stood up and spoke his mind. That's the kind of human bravery and dignity I find in Heechul and to see an ugly despicable trash like yourself being a fan of Suju just make me sick to my stomach. And the same for all the antis I find on this site. I have captured all your posts and are discussing this in our Korean site. We don't have legal power to prosecute you but your sick acts will be completely known to us Koreans. What a dumb trash, still having the guts to reply even when your ugly acts have been kindly explained to you. KyuubiBear, the whole of Korea hates you, and DBSK and Suju hates you too just remember that clearly, I have talked to DBSK members at fan siginings and asked them how they feel about antis and they told me they are like trash, that is exactly why I am calling you a trash, you dumb little piece of trash.

Go on and try to come back with another dumb response you little trash. You don't know jack crap about kpop get your ugly ass out of your hateful world and have respect for others otherwise remember there will be millions of Koreans watching you.

below is msg for Koreans reading this now
아 좀 과격한건 미안합니다. 이 KyuubiBear라는 쓰레기는 한번 호되게 당해야 정신을 차릴듯... 아니 차릴것 같지는 않군하. 이런 잡종들 눈에 띄면 가만 있지 않는다고 경고로 봐두시길
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