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Do You Think Itachi Was Right To Betray His Clan.
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I'm not gonna side with either faction, but I do want to pose a question. He killed his entire clan...not just the shinobi of the Uchiha, EVERYONE. Not everyone in the clan coulda been a ninja, some coulda been regular people, not to mention the kids...Sasuke couldn't have been the only one. So how many bay's did he kill? Pregnant mother's? Civilian's who happened to have Uchiha blood? And what about people who married into the Uchiha?

The Uchiha were a large and prosperous clan, the death count would have been immense. And just as importantly, not all of them would have been in on the rebellion, after all Sasuke didn't know about it either.

...Maybe I chose sides after all....


Indeed, it is a horrible prospect when you put it like that. The thing is, if the Uchiha clan did stage their coup, many people would have died, Shinobi and non-shinobi. And then war could have started, and suddenly there are the people that you specified potentially dying not just in one clan, but possibly in all five villages. The Uchiha clan's massacre was like cutting down a tree to save the rest of the forest from burning.
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Indeed, it is a horrible prospect when you put it like that. The thing is, if the Uchiha clan did stage their coup, many people would have died, Shinobi and non-shinobi. And then war could have started, and suddenly there are the people that you specified potentially dying not just in one clan, but possibly in all five villages. The Uchiha clan's massacre was like cutting down a tree to save the rest of the forest from burning.


I can understand your reasoning to an extent but think of this. To prevent WWII from happening would it be right to go back in time and slaughter everyone in Germany? Sure there were a lot of bad people then and of course what happened was wrong. But would it have been right to slaughter all the innocents there to save others? And further reasoning, just because the germans were living back then were doing evil dosn't take away that the ones today are very peace oriented

The way I see it there really isn't a correct answer for this. Its true that Itachi saved Konoha as a whole, but he still killed innocents.He may have tried to do the best he could....he just applied some seriously twisted Uchiha reasoning to do it. Still he was only human, and nobody ever said that life is full of easy decisions.

I just wish people would stop making him out to be a saint.... >_> sorry if I'm ranting
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slaschur wrote:

Indeed, it is a horrible prospect when you put it like that. The thing is, if the Uchiha clan did stage their coup, many people would have died, Shinobi and non-shinobi. And then war could have started, and suddenly there are the people that you specified potentially dying not just in one clan, but possibly in all five villages. The Uchiha clan's massacre was like cutting down a tree to save the rest of the forest from burning.


I can understand your reasoning to an extent but think of this. To prevent WWII from happening would it be right to go back in time and slaughter everyone in Germany? Sure there were a lot of bad people then and of course what happened was wrong. But would it have been right to slaughter all the innocents there to save others? And further reasoning, just because the germans were living back then were doing evil dosn't take away that the ones today are very peace oriented

The way I see it there really isn't a correct answer for this. Its true that Itachi saved Konoha as a whole, but he still killed innocents.He may have tried to do the best he could....he just applied some seriously twisted Uchiha reasoning to do it. Still he was only human, and nobody ever said that life is full of easy decisions.

I just wish people would stop making him out to be a saint.... >_> sorry if I'm ranting :P


Well what I said wasn't my true opinion. It's just the one I'm stating until a certain manga chapter becomes animated. Then I will release my true opinion based on that chapter and I think you'll find that opinion to be much more agreeable. I will just say that I wish Hiruzen (third Hokage) had more time to think of a less violent solution to the problem, bloody Danzo.
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Yea I think he did the right thing but I can't understand why he would kill the women and children who was not a trained ninja.
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Technically I think he did but no one here can honestly say they would kill their own family and actually do it. A smarter man would have found a better way even if he just had to kill himself to in front of the village to show the stupidity of one death let alone an entire clan.
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Itachi was wrong. If he showed solidarity with his clan, it may have lead to more bloodshed. It may have even lead to another 4th great ninja war, or more people to attack the Leaf. But he would not be a traitor to his family, and it would show the village the price of their discrimination, and he should be content to let history reflect (for the Senju) the mistake of alienating one of your most powerful assets.

The horrors of war is what drove Itachi to make his failed decision. Not that real-world parallels are of much use here, but there is another 1930's politician who, driven by fear of the horrors of war, adopted a policy of appeasement that basically got us nowhere and didn't avert war anyway.

Perhaps it is karma that Sasuke wants to destroy the leaf after defeating Itachi, a result of Itachi's failed decision to appease his village out of fear. Even if his clan didn't have the moral highground, its about allowing someone else to dictate those kinds of terms to you and where that leads.



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