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madara is obito the mystery revealed
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well you got me i forgot that page but still itachi was the one who killed all the uchiha clan and tobi could have just clean up the scene and if you are a good reader you would know that to every story there is a twist and i belive in every naruto chapter there is a clue to who is tobi and
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No, Sasuke said to Itachi: "Even you couldn't have killed all of the Uchiha by yourself." This implies that Tobi would have had to pull his weight in that fight, and not just "clean up". Indeed I do fancy myself as a good reader, and I do see the possibility, but it's just hard to see Obito obtaining so much knowledge and understanding in such a short period of time (between his death and the attack on Konoha with the Kyuubi).
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okay yu might be right but as i recall he didnt answer sasuke and he could have done it all himself and any ways do yu know how long tobi knows zetsu and where zetsu is from no so could it be that obito met with zetsu and had this plan and use zetsu as a clone and maybe the clone was made to be an older version then the real one and i will give you a motive for obito hatred.



obito motive: someone saved obito from the the place everyone tough he died and when obito was healed he try to return to his home and found out that rin his love had died and became full of hatred towards war so he wages one in order to be the all powerful ninja usin the moon eye technique....
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Of course he didn't answer Sasuke in some ways, otherwise the lie he was telling might not have worked. He'd told the truth about Itachi's life and added in a few things to make things sound rosy for himself.

It's possible that Obito could have been influenced in that way, but this is how I see it: anyone who knew a few things about Rikodu Sennin could have come along and told him about the Ten-Tails and the formation of the Uchiha and Senju clans, but it's about the idea of understanding these things, and not just knowing them. That kind of thing may take time to accomplish and I feel it would take more than Rin's death to set things in motion.

As I see it, we need to know a few things in order to establish his identity, whether he is Obito, or Kagami according to others or another Uchiha entirely:

- We need to know how Tobi was affiliated with Madara
- We need to know how Tobi is connected to Zetsu, and whether or not he is using Zetsu's flesh to rebuild himself
- We need to know what Madara knows about The Sage of Six Paths himself, as he might be the person that told Tobi

1 and 3 could be the same kind of thing, but knowing about these factors are crucial to understanding how it all happened.
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okay now we talkin we in the same page i hope this upcomin wednesday manga tell us a little sumethin about tobi identity and nice writing this is a point of view i can agree with checkmate....
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wow.... this thread is still going..... still dubt a 3rd rate ninja like Obito could become one of the strongest ninja's in Naruto espicially if you consider the time gap between Obito's death and Tobi's attack on Kushina, sadly it's not enough time for a 3rd rate ninja to become one of the top ninjas in the world.
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wow.... this thread is still going..... still dubt a 3rd rate ninja like Obito could become one of the strongest ninja's in Naruto espicially if you consider the time gap between Obito's death and Tobi's attack on Kushina, sadly it's not enough time for a 3rd rate ninja to become one of the top ninjas in the world.


Exactly my point, JCossey-san, but the post I made about the things we need to learn about Tobi should be a good way to determining who he is once and for all. This way I'm leaving open the possibility, no matter how unlikely it is. Considering how Kishimoto made us stop hating a mass-murderer like Itachi and made us feel massively sorry for him in just a few chapters, he can do lots of unlikely things that will make sense, but he has been slipping up a little bit and it seems hit chapters have shortened from 18 pages to just 14. Whatever the explanation is (hopefully there will be one!!!), I just hope it's something we can all be satisfied with, or at least understand it decently enough.
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JCossey wrote:

wow.... this thread is still going..... still dubt a 3rd rate ninja like Obito could become one of the strongest ninja's in Naruto espicially if you consider the time gap between Obito's death and Tobi's attack on Kushina, sadly it's not enough time for a 3rd rate ninja to become one of the top ninjas in the world.


Exactly my point, JCossey-san, but the post I made about the things we need to learn about Tobi should be a good way to determining who he is once and for all. This way I'm leaving open the possibility, no matter how unlikely it is. Considering how Kishimoto made us stop hating a mass-murderer like Itachi and made us feel massively sorry for him in just a few chapters, he can do lots of unlikely things that will make sense, but he has been slipping up a little bit and it seems hit chapters have shortened from 18 pages to just 14. Whatever the explanation is (hopefully there will be one!!!), I just hope it's something we can all be satisfied with, or at least understand it decently enough.


you do know that about 3 of those supposed pages where actually double pages.
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Posted 7/9/12
Huh, I guess that makes sense. Point taken.
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the chapter is not actually shorter per-say, double pages are sections in the chapter that takes two pages, for examples Madara's Perfect Susano'o when it's first shown, and when Naruto used the Biju-dama to counter the merged Biju-dama where both double pages. in the actual manga they would have two pages contrubited to the scene the last chapter had about 3 of these in it, and the translators only segment it as a single page when it's actually two pages this is the reason why it would seem as if the chapter is shorter.

in all actuallity it is shorter when you reference the story but the chapter is not
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Ah cool, thanks for clearing that up. To ensure this stays on topic: 3 things. Tobi. Zetsu. Madara. How do they connect? We find out these, we find out who Tobi is.
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Posted 7/9/12
no problem, on average the average length of a chapter goes any where from 16 to 20 pages.

I don't see where Obito fits with the other 2 personally, but I guess we have to wait for Kishi to show us more
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Posted 7/10/12
That was actually a mistake, I meant to say Tobi not Obito there.
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Lol so true. The female member (I forget her name. Shes not important so it doesn't really matter) is the one who transplanted it because obito wanted to give kakashi the gift of his sharingan for becoming an anbu. I heard that the female shinobi died but it doesn't give any explanation about her death.
oh sorry I just found out her name was rin lol
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