Post Reply is John Cena being made a special match specialist???
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Posted 5/26/10
i been noticing that John Cena has been put into more specialist matches since Summerslam 2009 than any other superstar...if you dont believe me have a look at the main event match he has been in since losing to Randy Orton at the biggest party of the summer

I Quit match vs Randy Orton (which he won)
Hell in a Cell Match vs Randy Orton (which he lost)
Anything goes Fall count anywhere 60 minute Iron man match vs Randy Orton (which he won)
Triple Threat match vs Shawn Michaels and Triple H (which he won)
Tables Match vs Sheamus (which he lost)
The Royal Rumble Match (which he finished second)
The Elimination chamber match vs Triple H vs Sheamus vs Randy Orton vs Ted Dibiase Jr vs Kofi Kingston (which he won)
No DQ match vs Batista (which he won)
Last man standing match vs Batista (which he won)
I Quit match vs Batista (which he won)

he is also if i correct in saying he is the only man to beat Edge in a TLC match and i am also correct in assuming that Cena has particupated in every kind of speciality except a coffin match although i could be wrong
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Posted 5/26/10
Hey Vyrus good to hear from you again! I thin it's not so much he's being made a gimmick match wrestler but more this marketing plan to theme almost EVERY PPV. He just happens to be in most of them due to also being the champ most of the time when a themed PPV comes up, or even in non-themed ones like Over the Limit was going into one to blow off a feud. Personally I hate PPVs being themed because it's forcing a type of match regardless of where a feud is, making it very hard to get a feud over, and sometimes starting a feud via a gimmick match. And it won't end with Fatal Four Way coming up (Cena is in that again), then Money in the Bank becoming a PPV even after just having it at Wrestlemania.
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I agree with trigunkwan.Cena has been stuck in gimmick matches more as the WWE decided to make each PPV now have a gimmick and since he has either been champ or at least number 1 contender he's found himself in the gimmicked main events.

Another thought is that Cena is better suited to being in gimmick matches because they can cover his not as good as some of the roster wrestling ablites.Now this is not to say Cena can't wrestle look at his near to an hour long match with HBK which showed with the right opponent Cena can go have a great match with.But in a gimmick match Cena won;'t have to wrestle as much and use the stipulations to tell the story and cover that one weakness he has.
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Posted 5/30/10
I think the gimmick PPV are being used in order for WWE to get more of the matches that the fans wanna see, it takes less time to write a match up to be a Hell in the Cell if the PPV is such than having two wrestler appear to hate each so much that the only match to have would be a Hell in a cell if that makes any sense

And i dont know why Cena has such a bad reputation, i seen alot of cena matches and i havent seen anything bad about his wrestling abilities, he may not be the best ever wrestler but he is far from the worst ever you know? plus he does get alot of praise for his power and strength in fact alot of wrestlers including Batista have said in interviews that he is by far the strongest guy in the back pound for pound

i think he is put into Gimmick matches more is because he is a tough cookie, i mean look at the last two injuries with his bicep and neck, should have been gone for over a year EACH and made it back within 5 months without any trouble which makes him perfect for taking huge beatings then coming back to RAW 24 hours later
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Ok I've fluctuated on Cena over time. I liked his earlier stuff as he wasn't scripted, seemed to have that edge on the mic. His in ring yes has never been great but there are far worse in the company (Otunga, Khali, Henry, Hornswoggle, most of the Divas come to mind). I find his hate from some fans is from the mix of being mediocre in ring except in some spots or big matches like the Rock used to be for a while, but more for how his promos now flip between serious or comedic with neither working because the WWE is now scripting guys fully and it shows Cena is not a guy you script. Can you imagine the Rock or Austin back then scripted, or farther back like Hogan or Bret Hart? Also Cena is like Michael Cole a heavy abuser of the WWE language to sell merchandise like the idiotic term WWE Universe. It's not like the fans of movies are a planet or sports teams generally don't have nations (except a dumb few like the Red Sox or Yankees...ahem, I digress...). All these things contribute to Cena hate. Then again this also gives the kids of his Cena Nation their interest to cheer this superheroic man, so it's a tough challenge to please. And as Vyrus noted, he's generally respected except for some exceptions jealous of him (like the shoot angle done with former WWE talent Carlito).

I concur with andy that gimmick matches hide his weaknesses in ring, but I also agree with Vyrus on how they make him look strong and he brings his A game. I am a bit worried about not just Cena but others in these multiple themed PPVs now being overworked, resulting in the recent rash of injuries and a dwindling roster. WWE on that note needs to cut down gimmick PPVs for health sakes since they got no off season per say for their talent that works as hard if not more than most sports or actors.
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Posted 6/2/10
i just don't see Cena in ring weaknesses personally, his moves may not be flashy but they are performed correctly and safely (i dont think any superstar has been injured by any of Cenas moves), He may have that get beaten, come back strong, get beaten worse, come back stronger style on him but then again you have to look at Hulk Hogan who was even worse in that scenario and at least with Cena his looks excusable, at least with his he could still fight back and lose, Hogan was continuously "i fight back...you all lose"

I believe Cena really deserves alot more credit for his wrestling skills than he is given, he may not have the best move list but at least you know he can do those moves and have you walking back on your own two feet (unless its scripted you leave on a stretcher) unlike lets say Randy Orton RKO (which tore out Cena bicep) or maybe Batista Powerbomb (which broke Cena neck)
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Posted 6/2/10
Oh of course, again it's why I tend to compare Cena a lot to the Rock in some ways in career paths (I do the same for Orton and Austin). In ring is a huge spot for that-he does put a lot of effort trying to not only take bumps before his Hogan like comebacks, but the moves he can do are done well. I recall an interview on LAW talking about Cena with another talent and talked about how Finley told Cena to stop doing certain moves because he couldn't do them consistantly well, while keeping others like his STF, AA and 5 Knuckle Shuffle. Good eye too he rarely if ever injures anyone (the injury Batista took is an exception of recent but that was understandable off a car spot), while others are very dangerous to wrestle *coughOtungacough* or tend to have injuries occur like Rey or RVD. Safety is so key working in wrestling so it's why others are considered safe too like Jericho or Punk on the whole. Oh on Orton, well he's becoming more Mr. Injury prone than a Cena if he can get hurt on his own taunt, heh.

Yes also on the Hogan-ups Hogan is the king though I will say Cena has done it a lot too that fans do tend to boo it now if not a fangirl or kid. But yes Hogan is named after it for being the original, Cena just well learned from that spot.

BTW on the rushing back from injuries Cena does I would rather he heals more properly and that goes for anyone (Rey for example has still not fixed his knee issues because they keep asking him to hang around longer to help with of all things, a dwindling roster due to injuries.) In fact maybe if when he does get injured he takes a full time off that's needed, fans would welcome him back a bit better as the old saying goes-when something is gone for a long time the heart grows fonder for it.
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Posted 6/3/10
Cena is a unique individual, he doesnt need as much time healing as many other wrestlers, i have watched him alot and its rare if ever to see him favouring his neck or bicep since the injury nor do they seem to bother him at any time.

to be honest and this may be controversial but id rate Cena alot higher in wrestling overall than i would Hogan anyday you know? i mean it was so pathetic watching Hogan vs anyone getting his ass kicked and even be subjected to their finishing moves...then stand up, 5 punches, big boot, Leg drop and what do you know HE WON!!! at least when you watch a Cena match when it happens you know if they hit the finisher and go for a pin quickly they will win and if Cena does win 9 times out of 10 you'd probably say he just about earnt the victory that night
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