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hajas wrote:

How about a timeline to when the mobile site will have flash videos that are "optimized for mobile."


I have no timeline. I think I said this already but it would happen after we finalize our new iPhone encoding system and re-encode all of the videos for that.


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Bitbop is a fully featured video streaming service with an application. It works extremely well and offers a lot of full content. I dont agree that android isnt ready. Hulu and netflix both are actively developing applications for android. CR should too, rather than a "wait and see" approach.


Bitbop doesn't show up when I search the market on my phone. Upon closer inspection, my phone (HTC EVO) is not listed on the following page:
http://www.bitbop.com/handsets

So I can't really say how it functions but, from reading the article below, it seems like they have the right to offer Direct Downloads for all the shows. This is something that we do not have and is an issue with us creating an app. We could easily create an app and have it play videos through Android's built in media player but, that means that the entire video will be loaded on the device when we do not have the proper rights to allow this. In short, the media player lacks DRM features which is what would make it hard for us to create an app.
http://mashable.com/2010/09/14/bitbop-android/

Though, our staff is not entirely familiar with the Android SDK and don't have the time at the moment to research it in depth. So we are most likely going to hire someone who is experienced with this to help us out. It's possible that Android is ready for it but I just don't want to make promises and say that all devices with Android 2.2 and higher are going to be supported since there's too many unknown factors. I know that Hulu and Netflix are working on it but at the same time, they haven't produced it yet so it's anyone's guess how far along they are and what versions of Android OS they will support.
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I have Bitbop for my wife's phone (nexus one) and it works as a streaming service or as a direct download (offline) viewing. It's the streaming function that I think is the most promising.
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I think the easiest short-term solution that will satisfy android users on 2.2 is to refine the mobile interface, and make the flash player load up in a "mobile" mode where the full screen button/play etc is easier to access. Perhaps even defaulting to the episode that we want to play in full screen mode. Its working fine on my android phone but is a pain in the butt to full screen it or navigate to the show you want to watch.

That way this should also fulfill your protection issue for the most part for now since it will be streaming through the flash player and not downloading any file on the device, and till you got a truly native app going the android side of things to work a lot smoother. At the very least the mobile site just needs some work to make browsing easier, there isn't even a search button.

With a good enough mobile website interface aside from the optimization issue it could be just as good as an experience as on a native app if not better, (going to youtube mobile site on android sometimes is better then the youtube app itself). Eventually In fact you could even borrow a similar functionality, where people can browse the crunchyroll mobile site, and when they click on a crunchyroll video maybe see if you can have an optimized crunchyroll player that will simply stream the video, sort of like the youtube app.
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I have a Motorola Droid 1 and I like that some of the keyboard shortcuts work like space (pause/play), left/right (back/forward 10 seconds) and upd/down (volume control). However, other ones don't work like F (full screen) and M (mute/unmute). Are there plans to make all the shortcuts work especially the full screen one or is there something wrong with my Droid and they actually do work for others.
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Android is now the number 1 OS on all smart phones in the U.S. so...... when will we be seeing an app?????? I know that I can watch my shows using the SD quality without any issues but it is still VERY slow to load and you can't maximize or minimize the screen very easy an app only makes sense
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I have samsung fascinate android.. Pretty pretty please. I want typo watch anime from my phone.
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commenter wrote:

I have a Motorola Droid 1 and I like that some of the keyboard shortcuts work like space (pause/play), left/right (back/forward 10 seconds) and upd/down (volume control). However, other ones don't work like F (full screen) and M (mute/unmute). Are there plans to make all the shortcuts work especially the full screen one or is there something wrong with my Droid and they actually do work for others.


I'd like to know this as well.
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Posted 10/11/10 , edited 10/11/10
The settings for shortcut keys probably weren't changed from the desktop version to the mobile version. So I'm guessing the key mapping on a mobile device is different than on a standard desktop keyboard so I can have that looked into.

Edit: In response to the following post:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-669700/compatibility-with-apple-tv?fpid=33720460


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BasouKazuma wrote:

All I can say is that I haven't heard anything regarding Crunchyroll being offered through Apple TV but we are committed to providing our content through the latest and greatest platforms/devices. So if Apple TV takes off, I'm sure we'll take advantage of the platform.


Shenanigans.

I'll believe your claim of supporting the best platforms when Android is fully supported with an app.


As I've been saying, we're working on Android as well. Committing to something and providing it right now or on a specific date are 2 different things. We are definitely going to have an Android app in the future but it will take time; I'm just not going to make promises we can't fulfill like other companies do. I could say expect it Q1 2011 but that would just be an arbitrary date that would only serve to keep people quiet until Q1 passes and we don't have it. Then we would say 1H 2011 and so on but, personally, I don't think that helps anyone so I just say that we're committed to providing it in the future.

Hulu and Netflix (I name these 2 since their technical needs and our technical needs are virtually the same) do not have an Android app and they have hundreds of millions of dollars at their disposal to hire more staff members than we have which allows them to devote more time to these things. So I do not see why it is expected of us, a small company, to instantly provide apps for all of these platforms especially when the platform may not meet our needs at this point in time. I'm an Android fanboy and I know very well how fast Android OS is penetrating into the mobile market but the video tools are seriously lacking at this point in time. I can rarely get videos from my harddrive to work on the built in video player and 3rd party video players are lacking as well. The biggest problem is that it doesn't offer DRM tools. For TV.com's app, they split the videos into multiple parts which is not something we would want to do since the experience would not be great for premium members. Bitbop, from what I read, doesn't seem to need to worry about DRM since they have the direct download rights for the videos so they can have the entire loaded on the device; that would be easy for us to do but, unfortunately, we don't have direct download rights so it would be a lot more work for us to make an app that may look similar on the surface but would be very different on the backend. I dislike iOS devices but I will admit that the video player is top-notch and meets our needs which is why we were able to get on there about a year ago. We REALLY want to provide access through Android, but we just do not have the manpower right now especially since most of our current work is going into the online Manga platform we are creating for Bitway. There are hard deadlines that need to be met for the Manga platform so everything else is on the back-burner.

We are going to be exploring these platforms when we have the time to devote. This is not just some random claim that I am making; it really wouldn't make any sense for us to not provide access through these platforms since it exposes our service to many more people which in turn means more money for our partners and for us. If you don't believe me, you can hear it straight from our CEO:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2010-08-13 - (68 minutes in)
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The mobile version of the site works well for me, though I miss a description for the series.
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Posted 10/23/10

AHTL wrote:

The mobile version of the site works well for me, though I miss a description for the series.


How long did it take for you to load videos in this case? I tried earlier out of curiosity, but I didn't have enough time to wait longer than a couple minutes on my WiFi to see.

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AHTL wrote:

The mobile version of the site works well for me, though I miss a description for the series.


How long did it take for you to load videos in this case? I tried earlier out of curiosity, but I didn't have enough time to wait longer than a couple minutes on my WiFi to see.



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One thing. If at all possible, can the app be 2.1 compatible? Some of us won't be getting 2.2...
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Gingerbread is right around the corner and is going to introduce the ability for secure media delivery with DRM. Netflix has already said that they have not made an Android app because of the lack of DRM support and that they are waiting for Ginderbread to be released before creating an App. Windows Phone 7 and iOS already have DRM protection built straight into the operating system.

I am sure that Crunchyroll has to follow similar rules outlined by the studios that allow Crunchyroll to stream their shows. As many people have experienced, the studios are already picky when it comes to what regions are available to watch certain shows. Although, I do not even know if Crunchyroll uses DRM in the iOS app or not, this is just me speculating.
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Posted 11/16/10 , edited 11/16/10
Development on an Android app started a couple weeks ago. Initial release will be for Premium Members only since there will be no advertisement support built in. Also, it will support Android 2.1 and higher. So you're in luck dhaikage.

We had to lower our expectations though since the video player on Android 2.2 and lower is not as refined as the video player for iOS. Android 3.0 is supposed to have better video tools as -Chris311- pointed out which would probably meet our expectations but 3.0 will not be supported by many of the current Android phones and hasn't been released yet which is why we just lowered the expectations a little to be able to have the app available sooner and for more people.
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Glad to see there has been some talk about this. I've had a Ipad for some time and love having crunchyroll on it. I got to admit I was surprised then they sent out a update saying this is the last update for this app please download the new "Universal" Crunchyroll App. I had thought this was basically a new app that was going to share a ton of code with a android app. So when I just got my android phone and found out there was no crunchyroll app I was a little shocked.
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