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Posted 5/29/10
In what way will it be saved Gextiv .. what are you basing this on ? Predicted dvd sales -vs- streaming revenue -vs- whatever CR pays for the licence to stream ? how can you POSSIBLY have access to those figures at this point in time ? since naruto has moved to CR it's seen a popularity drop in people watching. Horrible subs, well, frankly HATE you (CR, not you personally) and the feedback i'm hearing isnt that possitive. Seems people think CR is backstabbing and treading on toes. Granted I don't know the story behind most of those comments, but theres no smoke without fire; and a service thats good would you'd think, have very few complaints against it if it's service means an improvement for fans.

Don't you think ?

Would love to get your take on that because I don't know CR's history, or if it's been through this kind of thing before.
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Posted 5/29/10

kairiXhinataXhyuga65 wrote:

I don't know why you guys are complaining, if CR does get Bleach all the money they get from Anime Memberships will help support the creators. And isn't DATTEBAYO illegal? If it is, then it better be taken off there as soon as possible because that's not helping the anime industry at all and remember, more and more anime companies are closing because of illegal uploading and downloading and DATTEBAYO is doing nothing to help that, it's hurting it even more. Even if they're slipping through the "Fair Use", it's still illegal.

And besides if CR does get Bleach then I can stop buying the DVDs and just get an anime membership.


How old are you, 15?
Posted 5/29/10

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kairiXhinataXhyuga65 wrote:

I don't know why you guys are complaining, if CR does get Bleach all the money they get from Anime Memberships will help support the creators. And isn't DATTEBAYO illegal? If it is, then it better be taken off there as soon as possible because that's not helping the anime industry at all and remember, more and more anime companies are closing because of illegal uploading and downloading and DATTEBAYO is doing nothing to help that, it's hurting it even more. Even if they're slipping through the "Fair Use", it's still illegal.

And besides if CR does get Bleach then I can stop buying the DVDs and just get an anime membership.


How old are you, 15?


It says on my profile, anyways why do you ask?
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Posted 5/30/10

kairiXhinataXhyuga65 wrote:


TonyDanza wrote:


kairiXhinataXhyuga65 wrote:

I don't know why you guys are complaining, if CR does get Bleach all the money they get from Anime Memberships will help support the creators. And isn't DATTEBAYO illegal? If it is, then it better be taken off there as soon as possible because that's not helping the anime industry at all and remember, more and more anime companies are closing because of illegal uploading and downloading and DATTEBAYO is doing nothing to help that, it's hurting it even more. Even if they're slipping through the "Fair Use", it's still illegal.

And besides if CR does get Bleach then I can stop buying the DVDs and just get an anime membership.


How old are you, 15?


It says on my profile, anyways why do you ask?


Because your post reeks of 14 year old girl, and it appears my intuition wasn't far off.
Posted 5/30/10
"it better be taken off there as soon as possible because that's not helping the anime industry at all"
- WRONG

"more and more anime companies are closing because of illegal uploading and downloading"
- WRONG

Have you ever BEEN to Akihabara ? seen the BOOMING business anime shops do ? I'm guessing not...
The japanese use a different business model to the west. For example, only putting mild protection on SONY Ps1 games gave enough interest for the pirates to have a go and spread the games, which in turn helped sell the console. SEGA did the same thing with dreamcast not long after using 1GB propriatory discs. They were using the pirates to advertise. Granted that model doesnt work for PS3 or todays gear because it's multifunction and so would be self defeating. How do you know the fansubbers aren't doing anime a favour ? Anime has never been big in the west, without fansubs, it wouldnt be today, because lets face it, there's still not a HUGE amount in english dub, and fansubs help bring anime to the english speaking masses.

So the basis for your comments is ?
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Posted 6/2/10 , edited 6/2/10

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crunchyroll subs suck,they have too many flaws in their translation.,video quality sucks ,i would rather pay dattebayo rather than crunchyroll.





I would rather pay my dog to retell the episodes than watch CR's shit. DB has put a lot of hard work into bleach and probably has a lot to do with the shows popularity. CR is just greedy and wants to profit from the market that they have built up.

Why don't make an petition to let DB subs be "official" so that they can help the creators make money and continue deliver high quality anime. CR is the official source for anime destruction, bet they just misspelled the logo.

Also to the people who honestly believe that DB is hurting the anime industry I just don't know what to say, am I rly capable of explaining this in a simple enough way to penetrate the obvious wall of stupidity?

I'll make a try:

Without DB I would never have start watching anime, at this moment I've spent thousands of hours watching anime, reading mangas and more. That's thanks to DB. On the other hand thanks to CR I stopped watching Naruto. How can expanding a market be bad for bussiness? How many people do you think would have continued to watch anime if the subs were like the ones CR provide? I know I wouldn't and just among my closest friends I can easily think of 10+ people who never would have been a consumer of anime/manga without fansubs.

Let's be honest, do you watch CR releases beacuse it's the option avaible or beacuse you think they provide you with quality? And if you rly think the subs are good, are you above 15? Since I feel like it's targeted towards kids and I had to cancel the episode (ofc downloaded from a certain site, would never support CR after what they've done to naruto) beacuse I just couldn't stop thinking about the dubbed Pokémom, which is awfull.

But I guess it's to late to save this show, but at least make sure not to support the ones who ruined it.
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Posted 6/3/10 , edited 6/3/10
"It will be saved" ?
What from? Te evil hands of Dattebayo? The Evil countries who are not included now?
For my case, i believe in DB providing a great quality of fansubing and that for years, and know what? they did it for free and to everyone on this planet. Of course, the HD version here is better than the version provided by Dattebayo. On the other hand, the hand, which i weigh more than the first, the Subs were way better on Dattebayo 's releases. They were more mature and fit the context better which i believe is important to represent the creator's way of thinking and it also seems important to me, who loves the Japanese language.
Like already stated in some posts above me, i don't believe either in DB having damaged the Anime industry.
Seeing the upcoming release on CR will end the Dattebayo releases worldwide there is , once again, ( Naruto for the other being) no option for people who aren't included in the list of release countries. - oh wait, there is an option, 2 even : Illegal download or low quality streaming.

I wonder, why I'm still paying my monthly bucks to CR, for all those animes you can't watch in Switzerland? I guess so. I shall as well pay you for removing bleach from DB 's hands.
I have to agree with Tony Danza , the post he's been quoting explodes with a childish , blindfolded way of seeing things. - it of course is no problem for you, if you live in the US (or any other provided country) and don't care about the show's intentions, i believe the now childish Naruto, and i guess soon Bleach perfectly fits your image of a good Anime.
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Posted 6/3/10
Thank god Bleach has been picked up by CR, it will now truly be saved by contributing revenue to the creature,

I for one am happy i dont need to illegally download this show
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Posted 6/3/10
You poor lasy people, keep quiet because Crunchyroll will make bleach better in 720p. GET BETTER INTERNET
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Posted 6/3/10 , edited 6/3/10
Lagless HQ ftw. Do it for all countries and complaint shall be stopped.
(yeah i am trying to point out whats been pointed out many times, to the remaining ignorant people who are spoiled with a suported region)

Sir i believe your mommy pays your internet? :p
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Posted 6/4/10

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In what way will it be saved Gextiv .. what are you basing this on ? Predicted dvd sales -vs- streaming revenue -vs- whatever CR pays for the licence to stream ? how can you POSSIBLY have access to those figures at this point in time ? since naruto has moved to CR it's seen a popularity drop in people watching. Horrible subs, well, frankly HATE you (CR, not you personally) and the feedback i'm hearing isnt that possitive. Seems people think CR is backstabbing and treading on toes. Granted I don't know the story behind most of those comments, but theres no smoke without fire; and a service thats good would you'd think, have very few complaints against it if it's service means an improvement for fans.

Don't you think ?

Would love to get your take on that because I don't know CR's history, or if it's been through this kind of thing before.


DVD Sales vs streaming revenue vs whatever CR pays for? First, in Japan, everything costs loads of cash. Want to buy boxset 1 (episodes 1-13) in Japan? Ok, that'll be 20000 yen please (200 bucks). Also, in most countries, anime is not bought, but rather downloaded off-line. I'm pretty sure Naruto had been losing popularity ever since Dattebayo left subbing to Taka.... I think Crunchyroll is actually saving Pierrot from how much they pay an episode (God, you do not want to know) The fansubs were fine, but these are good too in my opinion.
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Posted 6/5/10
'Kay, speechless. Lets see how CR do their job in Bleach 274.
Posted 6/5/10

kairiXhinataXhyuga65 wrote:

I don't know why you guys are complaining, if CR does get Bleach all the money they get from Anime Memberships will help support the creators. And isn't DATTEBAYO illegal? If it is, then it better be taken off there as soon as possible because that's not helping the anime industry at all and remember, more and more anime companies are closing because of illegal uploading and downloading and DATTEBAYO is doing nothing to help that, it's hurting it even more. Even if they're slipping through the "Fair Use", it's still illegal.

And besides if CR does get Bleach then I can stop buying the DVDs and just get an anime membership.


Dear little kid! Dattebayou bought the legal rights to sub Bleach from TV Tokyo as well. I repeat: THE LEGAL RIGHTS!
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Posted 6/5/10
I can see how people that have been watching Bleach fansubs from DB (myself included) would be very protective of it.

Whilst I am concerned about a potential drop in the quality of subs I'm also excited at the prospect of getting 720p video quality and being able to watch episodes very quickly after they come out.

I, for one, will be giving CR a chance. Let's see how this plays out when they release the first episodes next Tuesday before declaring the end of the world
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Posted 6/5/10
So much hostility here...
I welcome Bleach's addition to CR. I've never watched it on DB so, I don't know what is so great about it, and I really don't care. I'll give CR a chance for now.

Lastly to a few certain people: Insulting someone is very tasteless and not a very good way of getting a point across. So you may not agree- deal with it in a mature way. Some of your ages say your in your 30's or so and I find that really hard to believe.
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