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Yondaime - Akatsuki?
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Basicly, what whether you have an idea or argument to put across, or whether you'd just like to express your hate for the naruto fillers, please post here, and discuss. For the love of god, please don't complain how naruto is shit, unless you have a decent reply, at a decent length. No 'one piece' comments or whatever, last topic was filled with spam.
Also, whether you wanna talk about the anime or manga, please don't give away many spoilers. If you do, please state clearly before hand you are.

To start off with (and by all means don't follow this if you've got better to talk about)



SPOILER (not for the main story but my views may make you think differently frm now on)

Is Yondaime (the 4th Hokage) the Akatsuki leader?

He is most likely the Akatsuki leader, and it kinda settled it for me, by not only looking at his silhouette many times at different angles (manga), but when Hidan starts to criticise Konoha's beliefs, The leader interrupts and tries to defend them by saying how their beliefs mean something blah blah...
Also, yes, both the 3rd and 4th used the sealing technique, but there's a huge difference. The reason Saratobi Hokage died was cos he used himself as the sacrifice. The reason Yondaime survived was because he chose Naruto as the sacrifice. Now why did Naruto survive? Well, as we all know, Yondaime was the best of the best, in fact, he was said to be the greatest ninja ever to come out of Konoha. Now, it is for this reason why I think that Yondaime is the Leader, because:
He may have the ability to bypass that sealing technique. (for all we know he could have created it?)
He may be leading the Akatsuki for a deeper reason, perhaps even a good reason. (then comes the fact that he's killed innocent people for his organisation, but whatever.)
I predict the writers will not only give us what some people might not be expecting, but also, for the ones that thought this far ahead, another twist that actually makes it turn around that Yondaime has another purpose with the Akatsuki, whether it be for good or bad. Perhaps he sealed it inside Naruto, knowing that he would befriend a Uchiha Avenger, knowing that he would fight through thick and thin in order to rescue him/her, Even encounter the Akatsuki. Perhaps Yondaime wanted Naruto to find him, saving him the time and grief of the people knowing he betrayed Konaha. Because he predicted this far ahead, or just perhaps something's just conveniently laid out in his favour, maybe he wanted Naruto to find him, and he sealed the fox inside him as a means of transport for the fox to come to Him [Yondaime].


Yea, I am truely convinced Yondaime is the leader. A lot of different concepts mixed up above, some of the may even contradict themselves but ah well. It's what I think, some of the above may be obvious, some slightly less. Whatever it is, I reckon I'm right.

Discuss.
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as many may no i dont really like naruto, but i am interested in the MAIN plot, to a degree, and i find your point interesting, But i dont think it is true, the hokages are known for the love of their village and it just doesnt really fit the MO the built up for the fourth. But i have always wondered y exectly when the fourth died he would not let the fourths coffin come, so u may have a point
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well if the akatsuki leader was alrdy shown in the anime/manga i guess it will be Yondaime the only one with great power and speed and he may used some other ppl's soul to do the sealing tech but nth is confirm until the artist decided to show us the real identity of the Akatsuki Leader,he may be some1 who aint in the anime/manga yet and mayb he will be anyone


And if u mean about when Orochimaru went to atk Konoha and sandaime stop the 4th tomb is becoz the 4th may be one of the strongest hokage and if he really come out Konoha will surely fall
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But what are you basing your reason on, just from the silhouette of the leader, you know I always thought that the leader was from the Uchuiha and more powerful than Itachi and he was the one that taught Itachi the myakugen sharingan or whatever but I could be wrong
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i think is the leader if the 4th but i began to think differently when orochimaru summon the tomb of the 1st and 2nd and was about to summon the 4th but was stop by the 3rd hokage, so if he is alive why did orichimaru try to summon him?
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IF he is the leader (have doubts though), Oro probably doesn't know. But Oro was in the Akatsuki, so im sure he knows who the leader is.
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yeah my point exactly if he was in the Akutsi then he knew who the leader was and than why would he try to summon the 4th if he knew that he was the leader of the Akutsi
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The leader has orange hair, so he's obviously not Yondaime.
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How do you know tat, its not official he has orange hair you might have seen a colored artists conception of the leader online somewhere ,like where you download your manga from
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Actually, it might be. It's on wikipedia.
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There hasn't been any official colored picture of the leader yet that i know of or have seen. What you probably saw was just a fanpic that someone photoshoped.
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I'm sure it was on the cover of a chapter in the manga. It looked pretty original.
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relly cool but who the hell is Madara Uchiha, is he the one that taught Itchi how to use the sharingan thing
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On second thought....


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Akaleadermouth.jpg (same as above, in link form)
^tiny glimpse of Leader's face in manga

Uchiha Madara, even the Kyuubi mentioned him having power's rivalling his own.

"Madara" means "mottles" or "speckles"
Speckles on the nose?

My new idea

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Posted 11/8/06
I personally believe that Youndaim is the leader of the Akutsaki.
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