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I hate the Lion King, made me cry when I was little Favorite Disney movie was probably Beauty and the Beast!
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i like disney too.... i love Mulan & Cinderella
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Posted 11/15/10

aliciadale6969 wrote:

Mr. Walt Disney did not steal his creations.

You're right on that account; Walt Disney himself didn't do any legitimate thievery; the movies made when he was alive (before 1966) were all based off stories that were in the public domain. However, long after Disney was dead, the people who ran the company decided they would take whatever they could get their hands on whether or not it was copyrighted (domestically OR internationally), resulting in legal snafu after legal snafu, and sadly they got away with it most times.

The majority of the movies, ie Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty were all written and produced in a time that women were house wives and didn't work. You have to look at the years in which movies were made to understand why some parts were written they way they were. I do not believe women are weak and need a man to save them, but these movies are drawn and animated before most of your parents were in school!

I see your point there too, but unfortunately in this day and age that's not an excuse.
Do you remember the uproar when The Princess and the Frog came out last year? Women's rights groups have been fighting for years to stop Disney from making movies projecting these values to children, but to little to no avail. It's just like what happened with those old Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes cartoons that our parents and grandparents grew up on; in the 1990s a new wave of political correctness led many of these old cartoons to be censored or banned because they use imagery that we consider inappropriate in our culture today, such as blackface or casual use of firearms and explosives. Nowadays no one would think to even subject their children to such content, yet they still continue to subject them to images of violent patriarchy and female subjugation via Disney films, old and new. The human mind is a complex thing, isn't it?
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I love Disney, (I was a disney whore when I was younger) my favorite movies are The Aristocats, Mulan and The Little Mermaid
Posted 11/15/10
Bambii, A Goofy Adventure, Snow White, basically the Disney classics. I don't really like their works anymore.
Posted 11/15/10

HibiscusKazeneko wrote:


aliciadale6969 wrote:

Mr. Walt Disney did not steal his creations.

You're right on that account; Walt Disney himself didn't do any legitimate thievery; the movies made when he was alive (before 1966) were all based off stories that were in the public domain. However, long after Disney was dead, the people who ran the company decided they would take whatever they could get their hands on whether or not it was copyrighted (domestically OR internationally), resulting in legal snafu after legal snafu, and sadly they got away with it most times.

The majority of the movies, ie Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty were all written and produced in a time that women were house wives and didn't work. You have to look at the years in which movies were made to understand why some parts were written they way they were. I do not believe women are weak and need a man to save them, but these movies are drawn and animated before most of your parents were in school!

I see your point there too, but unfortunately in this day and age that's not an excuse.
Do you remember the uproar when The Princess and the Frog came out last year? Women's rights groups have been fighting for years to stop Disney from making movies projecting these values to children, but to little to no avail. It's just like what happened with those old Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes cartoons that our parents and grandparents grew up on; in the 1990s a new wave of political correctness led many of these old cartoons to be censored or banned because they use imagery that we consider inappropriate in our culture today, such as blackface or casual use of firearms and explosives. Nowadays no one would think to even subject their children to such content, yet they still continue to subject them to images of violent patriarchy and female subjugation via Disney films, old and new. The human mind is a complex thing, isn't it?

What violent patriarchy?

How often do you see a man hit a woman in a film?
Now think of how many times a woman has hit a man on film.

And the casual use of firearms is more prevalent today than ever before.

Subjugation of what?
The girl in The Princess and the Frog was never rescued by a man.
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I prefer Mulan and the little mermaid!!!~~
But all of them was good!!^^
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GheyDeer wrote:


HibiscusKazeneko wrote:


aliciadale6969 wrote:

Mr. Walt Disney did not steal his creations.

You're right on that account; Walt Disney himself didn't do any legitimate thievery; the movies made when he was alive (before 1966) were all based off stories that were in the public domain. However, long after Disney was dead, the people who ran the company decided they would take whatever they could get their hands on whether or not it was copyrighted (domestically OR internationally), resulting in legal snafu after legal snafu, and sadly they got away with it most times.

The majority of the movies, ie Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty were all written and produced in a time that women were house wives and didn't work. You have to look at the years in which movies were made to understand why some parts were written they way they were. I do not believe women are weak and need a man to save them, but these movies are drawn and animated before most of your parents were in school!

I see your point there too, but unfortunately in this day and age that's not an excuse.
Do you remember the uproar when The Princess and the Frog came out last year? Women's rights groups have been fighting for years to stop Disney from making movies projecting these values to children, but to little to no avail. It's just like what happened with those old Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes cartoons that our parents and grandparents grew up on; in the 1990s a new wave of political correctness led many of these old cartoons to be censored or banned because they use imagery that we consider inappropriate in our culture today, such as blackface or casual use of firearms and explosives. Nowadays no one would think to even subject their children to such content, yet they still continue to subject them to images of violent patriarchy and female subjugation via Disney films, old and new. The human mind is a complex thing, isn't it?

What violent patriarchy?

How often do you see a man hit a woman in a film?
Now think of how many times a woman has hit a man on film.

And the casual use of firearms is more prevalent today than ever before.

Subjugation of what?
The girl in The Princess and the Frog was never rescued by a man.


I grew up with fire arms. I have been shooting since I was big enough to hold a gun. I am 41 years old, I don't need a man to do anything for me. I am very capable to manage all aspects, I want a man in my life because I love him. The older movies did not make me into a weak person, they are for entertainment and imaganry, as long as children are brought up knowning the differnce what is wrong with cartoons that portray all aspcets? I agree with that you hardly ever see a man hit a women in films but is perfectlly asscptable for a women to hit a man. I was raised that if you hit someone no matter what the gender you had better be able to handle the outcomes of your actions. I didn't see the Princess and the Frog, but is all make believe! As adults you have to make sure children know the difference, that is were the resposiblity lays!
Posted 11/15/10

aliciadale6969 wrote:


GheyDeer wrote:


HibiscusKazeneko wrote:


aliciadale6969 wrote:

Mr. Walt Disney did not steal his creations.

You're right on that account; Walt Disney himself didn't do any legitimate thievery; the movies made when he was alive (before 1966) were all based off stories that were in the public domain. However, long after Disney was dead, the people who ran the company decided they would take whatever they could get their hands on whether or not it was copyrighted (domestically OR internationally), resulting in legal snafu after legal snafu, and sadly they got away with it most times.

The majority of the movies, ie Snow White, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty were all written and produced in a time that women were house wives and didn't work. You have to look at the years in which movies were made to understand why some parts were written they way they were. I do not believe women are weak and need a man to save them, but these movies are drawn and animated before most of your parents were in school!

I see your point there too, but unfortunately in this day and age that's not an excuse.
Do you remember the uproar when The Princess and the Frog came out last year? Women's rights groups have been fighting for years to stop Disney from making movies projecting these values to children, but to little to no avail. It's just like what happened with those old Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes cartoons that our parents and grandparents grew up on; in the 1990s a new wave of political correctness led many of these old cartoons to be censored or banned because they use imagery that we consider inappropriate in our culture today, such as blackface or casual use of firearms and explosives. Nowadays no one would think to even subject their children to such content, yet they still continue to subject them to images of violent patriarchy and female subjugation via Disney films, old and new. The human mind is a complex thing, isn't it?

What violent patriarchy?

How often do you see a man hit a woman in a film?
Now think of how many times a woman has hit a man on film.

And the casual use of firearms is more prevalent today than ever before.

Subjugation of what?
The girl in The Princess and the Frog was never rescued by a man.


I grew up with fire arms. I have been shooting since I was big enough to hold a gun. I am 41 years old, I don't need a man to do anything for me. I am very capable to manage all aspects, I want a man in my life because I love him. The older movies did not make me into a weak person, they are for entertainment and imaganry, as long as children are brought up knowning the differnce what is wrong with cartoons that portray all aspcets? I agree with that you hardly ever see a man hit a women in films but is perfectlly asscptable for a women to hit a man. I was raised that if you hit someone no matter what the gender you had better be able to handle the outcomes of your actions. I didn't see the Princess and the Frog, but is all make believe! As adults you have to make sure children know the difference, that is were the resposiblity lays!

Errrrr.
My point was that Disney is not a bad influence.
I think you're looking for Hibiscus.

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Posted 11/15/10
Actually GheyDeer I was trying in my rambling way to thank you and agree with what you said! Lost it in a ramble! Sorry!
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Ah, my bad.
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Bambi) If u cant say somethin nice, dont say nothin at aaaaaaaall LOL
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Posted 11/15/10

GheyDeer wrote:

What violent patriarchy?

You remember that part in Beauty and the Beast when Gaston tries to force Belle to marry him? That's what I'm talking about.
Disney isn't just harming girls; they're harming boys too by teaching them they have to be muscular and aggressive in order to get anywhere in life.


How often do you see a man hit a woman in a film?

It hardly ever happens anymore, but it was once more prevalent. Have you ever seen McLintock (an old John Wayne film)? There are two scenes where the main female characters are spanked with coal shovels to put them in their places.


Now think of how many times a woman has hit a man on film.

Again, a casualty of political correctness. People think that if it was OK for men to abuse women in the past it's now OK for women to abuse men. IMO, neither is right; both are dreadfully wrong.


And the casual use of firearms is more prevalent today than ever before.

Whether that's true or not, it's still strictly taboo to show realistic weapons in children's cartoons.
Especially after Columbine and 9/11.


Subjugation of what?
The girl in The Princess and the Frog was never rescued by a man.

Technically it could be said that she was rescued considering the time period and location the film is set in and the race of the main character.
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I like most of the classic cartoons, and some of the more current live actions like Pirates of the Caribbean .
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They haven't given us a really good animated film for years. Pixar is good. Disney is evil.
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