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The Blitz, Dresden, &c.
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Why aren't these events covered in America Public Schools? Are they not as worthy as Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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Because our schools suck ass ?
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They're not taught in the US education system? Well that is probably simply because it's a terrible education system, but I can understand why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are more significant events.
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Yei wrote:

They're not taught in the US education system? Well that is probably simply because it's a terrible education system, but I can understand why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are more significant events.


So the firebombing of the city of Dresden and the near destruction of Britain is less significant than Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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orangeflute wrote:


Yei wrote:

They're not taught in the US education system? Well that is probably simply because it's a terrible education system, but I can understand why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are more significant events.


So the firebombing of the city of Dresden and the near destruction of Britain is less significant than Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


Historically, I'd say they are. The nuclear bombings are how the US got Japan to surrender unconditionally and ended the war, and they were the first uses of nuclear weapons ever.

I'm going to assume the fire bombing of Tokyo, where the US burned 120,000 people to death and destroyed Tokyo is also not taught. I think all the atrocities of WW2 should be taught.
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Look history in this through the world has been washed away for political correctness. Cause and effect that, who and the whys, are not mentioned. Social studies are the word for history and facts are not good if you cannot pass your ideology along with it. Another words (unions teachers power) on government has made social studies a joke AKA History. I do not think it necessary to cover an attack strategy but not to point out how fast and effective it was and why so many countries fell so fast. Do to the devastation brought on by the attack itself. That attack did not discriminate like all other most major assaults civilian where chopped to piece as well (Blitz-Krieg). I bet USA is described as a monster that used the A-Bombs. Not seeing a high school text in fifteen or so years and I did noticed from text books from my time went into more detailed of events. You like to throughout one liner's out there (do you not)? I japaneis higher up would have surrender once beaten in the battles the bomb may never have been used. I am pretty sure allot of those generals knew they hang for war time crimes. The crazed fanaticism Japanese solider had could be looked at with praise or disgust in the end, needless waste of life. I still would be worried if Japan would build another large army that culture has not grown up enough to be trusted. When Japanese’s think for them self as person first people second, until then I just as soon they did not have a large military and anyway if Japan dose build up. They have that monster beside them called China. I do wonder if Obama will sell out Japan and Taiwan to China he is that kind of slime ball. I also have miss giving’s with Germanys’ reunification as well this depression will be long and nasty and the young Europeans as a whole. Did not learn from both world wars put it in print was a waste on them. Here a Good Joke for you, the civil war was other slavery and states to separate from the union. Most southern sod busters (dirt poor framers) did fight not because of slavery they just did not like being pushed around. It was the high and mighty in DC that had a lot to loss and a hot head South Caroline that attack Fort Sumter. By that time it hit the fan real proudest did not truly hit the south until carpet baggers came down. After civil war having your face rub into your on lose to the degree that north did was a real shame.Just for you orangflute
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American schools are rotten to the core. Our educational system is underfunded, kids are constantly jacked into video games, the social norm is being stupid to appear cool, and just plain no one gives fuck anymore.

The next generations will be much worse. There might not even be a law stating that children have to attend school. America will be ran entirely by thugs on the streets, then fall into complete ruin.
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Look history in this through the world has been washed away for political correctness. Cause and effect that, who and the whys, are not mentioned. Social studies are the word for history and facts are not good if you cannot pass your ideology along with it. Another words (unions teachers power) on government has made social studies a joke AKA History. I do not think it necessary to cover an attack strategy but not to point out how fast and effective it was and why so many countries fell so fast. Do to the devastation brought on by the attack itself. That attack did not discriminate like all other most major assaults civilian where chopped to piece as well (Blitz-Krieg). I bet USA is described as a monster that used the A-Bombs. Not seeing a high school text in fifteen or so years and I did noticed from text books from my time went into more detailed of events. You like to throughout one liner's out there (do you not)? I japaneis higher up would have surrender once beaten in the battles the bomb may never have been used. I am pretty sure allot of those generals knew they hang for war time crimes. The crazed fanaticism Japanese solider had could be looked at with praise or disgust in the end, needless waste of life. I still would be worried if Japan would build another large army that culture has not grown up enough to be trusted. When Japanese’s think for them self as person first people second, until then I just as soon they did not have a large military and anyway if Japan dose build up. They have that monster beside them called China. I do wonder if Obama will sell out Japan and Taiwan to China he is that kind of slime ball. I also have miss giving’s with Germanys’ reunification as well this depression will be long and nasty and the young Europeans as a whole. Did not learn from both world wars put it in print was a waste on them. Here a Good Joke for you, the civil war was other slavery and states to separate from the union. Most southern sod busters (dirt poor framers) did fight not because of slavery they just did not like being pushed around. It was the high and mighty in DC that had a lot to loss and a hot head South Caroline that attack Fort Sumter. By that time it hit the fan real proudest did not truly hit the south until carpet baggers came down. After civil war having your face rub into your on lose to the degree that north did was a real shame.Just for you orangflute


Please leave your politics out of this. While you can say that it is because the government is doing a poor job with its standard, you should not go ahead and say that 'Obama will sell out to China' and that 'The South fought for state-rights' as they are irrelevent to the discussion.
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Yei wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


Yei wrote:

They're not taught in the US education system? Well that is probably simply because it's a terrible education system, but I can understand why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are more significant events.


So the firebombing of the city of Dresden and the near destruction of Britain is less significant than Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


Historically, I'd say they are. The nuclear bombings are how the US got Japan to surrender unconditionally and ended the war, and they were the first uses of nuclear weapons ever.

I'm going to assume the fire bombing of Tokyo, where the US burned 120,000 people to death and destroyed Tokyo is also not taught. I think all the atrocities of WW2 should be taught.


I recalled that the firebombing of Tokyo was mentioned, though in brief, in reference to the Japanese internment, wherein a person interned learned that his family might have been killed in the Firebombing of Tokyo.
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Because our schools suck ass ?


Which is a reason why our education has been improved- we now teach the internment of the Japanese.
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Well why are the school changing the books it your political agenda. This is your one liner. step up state your case. School need money and you do not need to replace books every year or two if and updated just as missed spilled as before with less facts and more Hypothesis. Follow the money think for our self and not quote some else BS stand on your legs two or four it dose not matter.
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Well why are the school changing the books it your political agenda. This is your one liner. step up state your case. School need money and you do not need to replace books every year or two if and updated just as missed spilled as before with less facts and more Hypothesis. Follow the money think for our self and not quote some else BS stand on your legs two or four it dose not matter.


Very well, but the whole 'Obama will sell us to China' and 'The South will Rise again' part is totally unnecessary to this argument. Likewise, hypothesis are necessary for the discussion of new ideas and its pausibility, and snice new ideas are being churned quickly, it is necessary to include them into the textbooks and into the curriculum. What I do object to is introducing books of inferior quality to replace higher quality books as the standard.
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Slow down I am 100% sure you never really made any effort to read my statement. I you brought up the text books and that all. You left it wide open someone as well writing as your self should know better. To I will put my life one line to protect anybody of any collar I done it in the past and if have to will do it again you don’t think you just do. Top Foster black sergeant was more of a father to me than my father or step father ever was to me. How can you overlook at mockery in what I posted if you think so bright. (Recognize duality) in have told these to those Rebel flag waving idiots you fried the first shoot you lost. The other argument is states’ rights and the rebel flag. I tell straight if you believed in it you should have stop them your for no back bone.
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Yei wrote:

They're not taught in the US education system? Well that is probably simply because it's a terrible education system, but I can understand why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are more significant events.

Unless the teaching of history has changed since I was in high school 30+ years ago, the history students are taught is more like "highlights of American history". Even then, it was just presented as more facts to learn, with no effort to teach why it was important, and what could be learned from those events.

Frankly, many Americans can't even correctly remember what little history they were taught in school, as they were not given a reason to care about it. You might be shocked at the number of Americans that can't even correctly answer what nations we fought in WWII, so certainly more "subtle" issues are well beyond their grasp.

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