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720p Playback is very choppy
mattrk 
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Posted 5/30/10 , edited 5/30/10
Current specs:
Intel Core2 Duo 6600 @ 2.40GHz
4 GB of Ram
NVidia Gforce 9800 gtx
Windows 7 64-bit

I've uninstalled and reinstalled flash. Cleared by cache. Tried three different browsers. (IE, FF, and Chrome) All three have the same problem. Choppy playback.

When i say choppy i mean that its not smooth. Its almost as if a few (6 or 7) frames are skipped every 2 or 3 seconds. This makes movement look pretty bad.

I've also tried it on my work laptop. (Dell E4300 w/ quad core proc, 4gb of ram, win 7 32bit. )

I'm wondering if my PCs simply don't meet the minimum specs. Kind of odd considering both PCs are fairly new. (The laptop being new 6 months ago) My desktop is about a year old. My desktop can handle any game i throw at it at 30 - 60fps just fine. I think its a bit silly that it can handle games just fine but can't play a 720p video. lol.

One other bit of info: I can play traditional HD 720 and even 1080p videos just fine on my desktop. (downloaded of course) H264, MP4, Quicktime, etc. It doesn't skip a heartbeat.
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Well, there is some info that you left out that would be useful, what version of flash are you installing? 10 or 10.1 (which is the RC atm). What version are your drivers for your 9800? What is the download speed of your internet connection? How stable is your connection?

You can find the driver version by going to: start -> enter "dxdiag" in the search, and running it, then on the Display tab it has the driver version, only need the last 5 digits.

Internet speed can be determined from speedtest.net and running a speed test.
You can get stability by running a ping test from pingtest.net

Flash version by right clicking a flash, and then clicking on "About Adobe Flash Player 10..." and an adobe page will have something like "You have version 10,1,53,55 installed"

Also, do you have subtitle smoothing and/or video smoothing on?
Posted 5/31/10
found your problem op, your using 64bit os
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64 bit OS is not the issue (As I use 64 bit win7 as well), especially if you read and see he tried on a laptop that had 32 bit.
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Posted 5/31/10 , edited 5/31/10
Flash Version: 10,0,45,2
Video Drivers: 8.17.11.9745 (Latest drivers. Updated about three days ago)
Ping Test: 0% packet loss, 24ms ping, 5ms jitter
Internet Speed: 25 down 3 up (From cox)

Where do i find options for subtitle or video smoothing?
Edit: I found the options. I've tried it with both options off and on. (And mixed, one off and one on) Still choppy.

I've also updated to 10.1 rc6 to see if it helped. Still choppy playback. :(

Also, just for kicks and giggles, here is the ping and tracert tests from the sticky. I use open dns servers for dns. Also note that the 2nd hop timing out happens for anything i tracert. Google.com for example. I don't think its a problem as i don't have any problems anywhere else with lag or latency.

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One other quick piece of information:

After i posted this i browed the web for any/all 720p or 1080p flash videos i could find. I was able to play every one of them sucessfully without any choppyness.

Any thoughts?
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are you watching them as full screen, or in browser window? if full screen I would guess its something with scaling up.

Those drivers aren't "the latest", as there are newer beta drivers, but I had no issue on 197.45

That second hop is your cable modem from cox and I am not the least surprised it didn't bother responding.


Except for that first thing about full screen scaling I am at a loss on why 720p would be fine but not 480p. Did you try 480p on a show that 720p worked on, and it still had issues?
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I would recommend doing the following:
- Close all programs you may have open, even frivolous background programs (not system programs)
- On your browser, only use one tab/window which has the video open and definitely make sure you aren't using any other web pages that use Flash elements
- Right-click on the video player and keep "Video Smoothing" enabled but make sure "Subtitle Smoothing" is disabled since it is a resource hog and is unnecessary on 720P videos
- View the videos in fullscreen mode, with Adobe Flash 10.1 installed, in order to take advantage of the hardware acceleration

If you still experience playback problems, tell us what your CPU percentage is like when your computer is idling and when the video is playing.
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Trying to stream HD video is very difficult especially in flash. Flash has a hard time with 720p and 1080p video. Even on youtube I will get horrible video. If I download something to my hard dive then I'll be able to watch it in its full 1080p glory. I have a very new PC and still have problems with the HD streams so it's just not you. Flash and HD video just dont mix all that well and take up a ton of resources.
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jsc315 wrote:

Trying to stream HD video is very difficult especially in flash. Flash has a hard time with 720p and 1080p video. Even on youtube I will get horrible video. If I download something to my hard dive then I'll be able to watch it in its full 1080p glory. I have a very new PC and still have problems with the HD streams so it's just not you. Flash and HD video just dont mix all that well and take up a ton of resources.


If you have a supported Graphics Card (GPU), you can use Flash 10.1 to take advantage of their hardware acceleration function that causes your computer to put the burden on the Graphics Card instead of your CPU. With this, video playback should be smooth.

To see if your graphics card is supported, you should read this:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes.pdf

And here's a list of supported Nvidia graphics cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/gpus_supporting_adobeflash.html
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I know this. I was just clarifying that full HD streaming is very difficult.It has nothing to do with CR. It more of a the limitations of flash.
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Hmm as far as streaming my comment isn't going to be too helpful, but I have 10 M/b DSL and I have no Issues with my 2 year old PC with streaming 720P with practically no delays and in full screen or windowed mode. I have had no issues with Google Chrome, IE, or Firefox as well. I also have a two year old laptop that wireless connects at 802.11n and works just as well wireless.

I do know Cable services will "traffic shape" traffic, especially if you are dealing with HD video streams, especially when u are sharing your cable service with many users in your community. Your stats "Ping Test: 0% packet loss, 24ms ping, 5ms jitter" may mean there is no traffic shaping happening, but even then you can't be sure.


An alternative idea is possibly a better router that has QOS for video streaming. Just some alternative ideas....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping

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I am having the same exact problem as mttrk. My laptop is new just under a year old.

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P7350 (2.0GHz, 3 MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB) 64 bit OS Windows Vista Home Premium ( I also tried streaming at Crunchyroll using my other laptop 32 bit OS Windows Vista, same result).
Adobe Flash 10.1
Tried on both Safari and Windows browser same
500GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
4GB DDR2 System Memory
512MB NVIDIA GeForce G 105M
17.73 Mb/s download and 1.07 Mb/s upload

Never have or had (past and present) problems streaming at 720P from "other sites" just Crunchyroll.
Early last May 2010 which was when I last logged in before yesterday - I had no problem watching/streaming anime at Crunchyroll.
Kindly help as watching at Crunchyroll under this very choppy conditions as a premium member is very disappointing and unpleasant. Thanks.

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macharalva wrote:

I am having the same exact problem as mttrk. My laptop is new just under a year old.

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P7350 (2.0GHz, 3 MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB) 64 bit OS Windows Vista Home Premium ( I also tried streaming at Crunchyroll using my other laptop 32 bit OS Windows Vista, same result).
Adobe Flash 10.1
Tried on both Safari and Windows browser same
500GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
4GB DDR2 System Memory
512MB NVIDIA GeForce G 105M
17.73 Mb/s download and 1.07 Mb/s upload

Never have or had (past and present) problems streaming at 720P from "other sites" just Crunchyroll.
Early last May 2010 which was when I last logged in before yesterday - I had no problem watching/streaming anime at Crunchyroll.
Kindly help as watching at Crunchyroll under this very choppy conditions as a premium member is very disappointing and unpleasant. Thanks.



You have a supported Graphics Card for Flash's new hardware acceleration so please do the following:

Install the latest driver for your Graphics Card. Linked here is the proper drivers for NVIDIA GeForce G105M on Windows Vista 64 bit
http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-257.21-whql-driver.html

Uninstall Adobe Flash by downloading and running the Adobe Flash Uninstaller.
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html

Then install reinstall the latest version of Adobe Flash.
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

After doing this, you should have little problem playing our 720P videos.
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@BasouKazuma, I did all 3 steps you suggested without any problems. I went to Crunchyroll clicked on an anime I like to watch, unfortunately, still the same problem - choppy, unlike in other sites.

This is very different from when I officially joined up till early May 2010 when I last logged successfully watching anime at Crunchyroll using the same laptop(s) without problems. Any more suggestions......., I really do not think the problem is on my side, but I'm not an expert, I just want to watch anime/dramas at Crunchyroll as an all access member without any problems. I look forward to a fix soon.

Am I the only one with this problem? Hopefully, I can watch smoothly soon, as it really defeats my purpose of getting an all access membership. Thanks.
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