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I know, but faith could mean the belief in anything, like the belief in science. Or the beliefe in no higher power or something. I mean how could I properly refer to it in terms of what it is. Like Christianity, Islam, and other things like that are called religions. What should I call atheism, agnosticism, and deism?
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Christians scares me. The little green bus they try to force you in for Sunday church is not very humane. No only kidding, I love the idea of a world beyond this world because it gives people hope and of course can make people less fearful of death but I was never one to believe in such a thing. I just refuse to believe that in a world with so much hate, rage so many murders and wars, children dying of terminal illnesses, children being raped and stashed into a garbage bins on a daily basis that there is a man with the power to end this just sitting there watching telling us to fix our own problems without the slightest bit of help. If there is a god and I go to heaven I am going to go right up to him look him in the eyes and strike him right in the snout. I’m not trying to argue with anyone about your viewpoints. This is just my belief and my alone.
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they are ideologies. faith is just too strongly related to religion. belief would be accepted, but faith is just..i dont know. i would never say i have faith in science. but i would say i believe in science. i have a belief in science. but thats just me, and im not the only agnostic here. who knows maybe im wrong.
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I'll just refer to it as beliefs or ideology then. Thanks ^_^
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The term "faith" in a religious context might infer "believing without seeing." It does not denote the "proof" aspect which might be required in an ideology as agnostism. No one has seen God but they have "faith" that he exists.--It is a kind of belief which does not require scientific proof but more related to trusting one's feelings.
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The christian have done so many mistake in his name that we now take the words of the Bible as Jesus's own words, but it is not.
Jesus never wrote anything at all... or maybe those text were discarted.
The bible is full of great stories, but I see it as the book of king Arthur - A huge revised, re-edited version of the one that should have been an auto-biographie.

He was a man ahead of his time (like any prophet is), and yet, today, Cristians especially the catholics, are being pulled by their religion.

Chistianism, or the new testament, was used to stop a civil war, the texts were chosen even perverted amongst hundrens (majority was from letters, Apostle, send between the catacombs in the Roman territory, where the followers of jesus were hiding)
Jesus was probably never understood, diciples only got a part of his message and pass them along for 3 or 4 generations. Now we read that revised part of it, and assume to understand his message.
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esilabet wrote:


The christian have done so many mistake in his name that we now take the words of the Bible as Jesus's own words, but it is not.
Jesus never wrote anything at all... or maybe those text were discarted.
The bible is full of great stories, but I see it as the book of king Arthur - A huge revised, re-edited version of the one that should have been an auto-biographie.

He was a man ahead of his time (like any prophet is), and yet, today, Cristians especially the catholics, are being pulled by their religion.

Chistianism, or the new testament, was used to stop a civil war, the texts were chosen even perverted amongst hundrens (majority was from letters, Apostle, send between the catacombs in the Roman territory, where the followers of jesus were hiding)
Jesus was probably never understood, diciples only got a part of his message and pass them along for 3 or 4 generations. Now we read that revised part of it, and assume to understand his message.


to an extent, any historical document is subject to revision, since we dont get it first hand. it has to go through many generations, translations, and lets not forget that the victors write history. but i think we are all familiar with the bible, the "perversion" that esil wrote about and also the fact that nothing is written, or maybe nothing was recorded, of jesus' early years. it just kind of..skips.

but im also rather skeptical about arthur's existence. ahhh what would i ever do if everything was just proven though. thered be nothing to think about!

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red3finition wrote:


esilabet wrote:


The christian have done so many mistake in his name that we now take the words of the Bible as Jesus's own words, but it is not.
Jesus never wrote anything at all... or maybe those text were discarted.
The bible is full of great stories, but I see it as the book of king Arthur - A huge revised, re-edited version of the one that should have been an auto-biographie.

He was a man ahead of his time (like any prophet is), and yet, today, Cristians especially the catholics, are being pulled by their religion.

Chistianism, or the new testament, was used to stop a civil war, the texts were chosen even perverted amongst hundrens (majority was from letters, Apostle, send between the catacombs in the Roman territory, where the followers of jesus were hiding)
Jesus was probably never understood, diciples only got a part of his message and pass them along for 3 or 4 generations. Now we read that revised part of it, and assume to understand his message.


to an extent, any historical document is subject to revision, since we dont get it first hand. it has to go through many generations, translations, and lets not forget that the victors write history. but i think we are all familiar with the bible, the "perversion" that esil wrote about and also the fact that nothing is written, or maybe nothing was recorded, of jesus' early years. it just kind of..skips.

but im also rather skeptical about arthur's existence. ahhh what would i ever do if everything was just proven though. thered be nothing to think about!



well in defence of the bible any new translation of the bible are taken from the origonal manuscripts, i know bcause the first few pages of the bible have sum kind of legal disclaimer thing, but the bible hasn't changed for two thousand years and it never will. As for jesus never writing the bible it would be rather stupid a guy writing that "i walked on water" i mean who would be believe him so i suppose it has more credibility if it was written by whitnesses rather than 1 guy writing his life story hyping himself up.

But really "the victors write the story" the disciples were running for the hills victors, the disciples were persecuted and beat up for mst of their time as christians but the fact they continued to preach was their only victory. I don't get what your trying to say about the victors wrote the story.

but the bible was never written as the words of jesus obviously they quoted what he said during their time with him.
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I just cant really believe in most of the main religions
there is alot of inconsistency's.
I just try to be a good person.
Posted 5/31/07
I believe in God, and more then that I have a relationship with Him. I love being close with Him, and I want to be closer. God is so amazing.
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wow...i didn't know there were so many born again christians here...
i'm proud to say i'm saved too
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not born christian but i want to know jesus more,
I considered as a christian but i dont think im a full christian, i want to know jesus more though...
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not born christian but i want to know jesus more,
I considered as a christian but i dont think im a full christian, i want to know jesus more though...


It seems like you are a christian by what you just said.

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lol,i still find it funny that you guys think,that you eat jesus,when you are in mass!
Posted 5/31/07
i'm a christian !!!
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