First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  Next  Last
Israel
Yei
9137 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
114
Offline
Posted 6/1/10

orangeflute wrote:

Israel is not a apartheid state, nor a terrorist state, mainly because 1- It has not committed any acts of segregation of public goods based upon race, and, quite the contrary allowed Arabs to be citizens of Israel, and 2- It has not committed any acts which may be defined as ‘terrorism’, all acts are carried out with the intentions of defending themselves and their homeland from foreign aggression and domestic terrorism (or, as you would call them, brave guerrilla cobaters waging battle against evil foriegn agression). It is only because they are successful that they may be labelled, as you would say ‘terrorist’. You attack of the Israel is a typical leftist criticism, making me feel quite ashamed to be part of that particular movement, repeating the same accusation and deaf to pro-Zionist argument. You attack us pro-Zionist as having no other proof beside playing the Holocaust card, all the while doing what is practically the same, bringing up several unfortunate events resultant of the war (there will always be civilian casualties in war) and then expanding that to its logical extreme, and then say: ‘Behold, Israel is evil!’ Though Israel is not perfect, at least they do not publically announced that they wish destruction and woe upon several foreign countries, denouncing them as either evil or spawn of Satan, in the good ol’ fashion way a nation that has never advanced ideologically or technologically since the Crusade Era can. Additionally, what is wrong with helping out Israel? Though, admittedly, less than three billion dollars are spent annually to give Israel military aid, the country is surrounded by nations with more money, manpower, and guns than Israel. It is only, as you would say, just if they were allowed some aid in their struggle.


I said it imposes apartheid in the occupied territories. Brutal and cruel apartheid that any moral human being would be disgusted with. But this is assuming you have any understanding of this issue.

This is an amazing thing to say:

It has not committed any acts which may be defined as ‘terrorism’, all acts are carried out with the intentions of defending themselves and their homeland from foreign aggression and domestic terrorism


I don't even know if it's worth continuing the discussion with someone this ignorant. Israel is a leading terrorist state, and regularly commits terrorism that is far worse than anything guerrilla groups could ever do. If you're aware of its actions for the last 4 decades, this should be obvious, but I don't know how familiar you are with this topic now. It seems like you're debating a view just for the sake of having it and you really not that well-informed.
8742 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M / Scotland, Aberdeen
Offline
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10

Yei wrote:
Israel was chosen by the US to be a military base and surrogate state in the Middle East. So the US fully funded Israel's army and gave it billions of dollars annually to help it develop. It's development isn't because of the amazing work of the Israelis, the US is responsible. The blacks in apartheid South Africa also did not offer the west much. But the whites, and the apartheid regime did, it was a great military power thanks to the US. And the US was it's number one ally, funding it's military much like it does Israel's. And both apartheid states carry out orders from their godfather.


Orangeflute dealt with the apartheid bit perfectly, I will just refer to that. As for the rest, I don't quite care. I cannot seem to find a reason outlined above why I should change sides.


Yei wrote:So, I'm assuming you also think we should have kept supporting apartheid South Africa, cause it benefits the west. And we should continue supporting every brutal dictatorship and police state in the world, because it benefits the west? International law, human rights, basic human morality really isn't a factor for you, is it? The fact that Israel is one of the worst terrorist states, refuses to obey the law, and continues to keep Palestinians living like animals is irrelevant? Well we're not on the same page here, I think Israel's policies towards the land it continues to illegally occupy and the Palestinians that live there is disgusting because I believe human beings should have some level of rights and dignity, I couldn't care less about the west's interests.


If we do, we do, and there is nothing more to it than that. Allies are allies because you have agreed, mutually, to be of assistance to, not because your allies are decent, good people. Right, so Israel is a 'brutal dictatorship' who is also 'one of the worst terrorist states, refuses to obey the law, and continues to keep Palestinians living like animals'. I thought it was here that you'd be expected to prove that, but you went and presumed it instead.


Yei wrote:I have no idea what this random Jewish conspiracy thing you brought up has to do with anything. Like orangeflute, and lots of others, you play the antisemitism card to distract people from the real issue.


To distract people from the real issue? Heaps and heaps of people are creaming their pants every time the opportunity arises to bash the 'evil Jew'. Just look at the post below if you wish to find evidence of this. When it is Jews, otherwise entirely accepted and standard conduct becomes reprehensible and evil. Lobbying, helping one's state financially or otherwise, holding high ranking positions.

I'm feeling that you are trying to appeal to morality and you are begging the question.


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."


Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


Yei wrote:
I don't even know if it's worth continuing the discussion with someone this ignorant. Israel is a leading terrorist state, and regularly commits terrorism that is far worse than anything guerrilla groups could ever do. If you're aware of its actions for the last 4 decades, this should be obvious, but I don't know how familiar you are with this topic now. It seems like you're debating a view just for the sake of having it and you really not that well-informed.


Gratuitous ad hominem attack with circular reasoning. An awesome concoction right there.
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10

jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.
Scientist Moderator
digs 
36005 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/1/10

jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


Are you being serious. First of all, there is no Jewish takeover of the world. America is arrogantly mistreating Israel under the Obama administration and not supporting them like we have in the past. However he is snubbing all our allies though, not just Israel. There is no Jewish conspiracy, people did not get the job they have because they were Jewish. They got the job because they were qualified, they just happened to be Jewish. Should I say that African Americans have some conspiracy because there are more African Americans that play professional sports than other races? Is the NFL and NBA some kind of secret organization?

Being a Jew also does not equate being a supporter of Israel. Just like being a Muslim doesn't mean you have to hate Jews. What you have posted is conspiracy and racism. Honestly, I think people who bash Israel unjustly (not everyone who disagrees with Israel, every nation deserves free criticism) and those who are apologists for real terrorist regimes like Hamas, Iran, the KSA, and others are the ones who don't get it.
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10

digs wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


Are you being serious. First of all, there is no Jewish takeover of the world. America is arrogantly mistreating Israel under the Obama administration and not supporting them like we have in the past. However he is snubbing all our allies though, not just Israel. There is no Jewish conspiracy, people did not get the job they have because they were Jewish. They got the job because they were qualified, they just happened to be Jewish. Should I say that African Americans have some conspiracy because there are more African Americans that play professional sports than other races? Is the NFL and NBA some kind of secret organization?

Being a Jew also does not equate being a supporter of Israel. Just like being a Muslim doesn't mean you have to hate Jews. What you have posted is conspiracy and racism. Honestly, I think people who bash Israel unjustly (not everyone who disagrees with Israel, every nation deserves free criticism) and those who are apologists for real terrorist regimes like Hamas, Iran, the KSA, and others are the ones who don't get it.


Two things. First, I never said they automatically got the job because of their background. They obviously earned it somehow, whatever it may be. My concern is that they all reached the positions now and they've got the power behind them to use. Second, these posts are obviously not against all Jews. I actually have Jewish friends who are against all this monopolization and say they aren't blinded by money, which was what lead me to find out about it. And your analogy with sports fails. Who's in charge of the operations and who are the ones having to work and play under them? And I'm sorry you think this is a conspiracy because it certainly isn't. It's all out in the open.

Aaron Russo, who is Jewish himself and a man I respected very much, ran for President as an independent in 2004. He has frequently lashed out against the Federal Reserve and IRS, both Jewish-run institutions. He illustrates it all in his film, America: Freedom to Fascism. I suggest you check it out.
1394 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/1/10

Yei wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Israel is not a apartheid state, nor a terrorist state, mainly because 1- It has not committed any acts of segregation of public goods based upon race, and, quite the contrary allowed Arabs to be citizens of Israel, and 2- It has not committed any acts which may be defined as ‘terrorism’, all acts are carried out with the intentions of defending themselves and their homeland from foreign aggression and domestic terrorism (or, as you would call them, brave guerrilla cobaters waging battle against evil foriegn agression). It is only because they are successful that they may be labelled, as you would say ‘terrorist’. You attack of the Israel is a typical leftist criticism, making me feel quite ashamed to be part of that particular movement, repeating the same accusation and deaf to pro-Zionist argument. You attack us pro-Zionist as having no other proof beside playing the Holocaust card, all the while doing what is practically the same, bringing up several unfortunate events resultant of the war (there will always be civilian casualties in war) and then expanding that to its logical extreme, and then say: ‘Behold, Israel is evil!’ Though Israel is not perfect, at least they do not publically announced that they wish destruction and woe upon several foreign countries, denouncing them as either evil or spawn of Satan, in the good ol’ fashion way a nation that has never advanced ideologically or technologically since the Crusade Era can. Additionally, what is wrong with helping out Israel? Though, admittedly, less than three billion dollars are spent annually to give Israel military aid, the country is surrounded by nations with more money, manpower, and guns than Israel. It is only, as you would say, just if they were allowed some aid in their struggle.


I said it imposes apartheid in the occupied territories. Brutal and cruel apartheid that any moral human being would be disgusted with. But this is assuming you have any understanding of this issue.

This is an amazing thing to say:

It has not committed any acts which may be defined as ‘terrorism’, all acts are carried out with the intentions of defending themselves and their homeland from foreign aggression and domestic terrorism


I don't even know if it's worth continuing the discussion with someone this ignorant. Israel is a leading terrorist state, and regularly commits terrorism that is far worse than anything guerrilla groups could ever do. If you're aware of its actions for the last 4 decades, this should be obvious, but I don't know how familiar you are with this topic now. It seems like you're debating a view just for the sake of having it and you really not that well-informed.


Give an reasonable example of 'State Terrorism', and I will give you your due, but, as of yet, you have not provided thus, nor have you made any attempts to. I have indeed read into the matter, and, so, I have formed my opinions based upon my interpretation of those event. You, on the other hand, learn of those events second hand, and formed your opinions based upon a certain writer's opinion on this issue.
1394 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/1/10

jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


My point is you have no point. You pull some bullock from your arsehole, put a bunch of business owners, under the assumption that they are all Jews (Oh my god, German surname = Jews, God forbid that they should be actually be Germans), and then blame them for being successful in business, which appearantly is a crime. There is a disproportionally high amount of Aged people in business and in politics, I don't suppose that there is a conspiracy amongst the aged.
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10

orangeflute wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


My point is you have no point. You pull some bullock from your arsehole, put a bunch of business owners, under the assumption that they are all Jews (Oh my god, German surname = Jews, God forbid that they should be actually be Germans), and then blame them for being successful in business, which appearantly is a crime. There is a disproportionally high amount of Aged people in business and in politics, I don't suppose that there is a conspiracy amongst the aged.


Assumption, my ass. If you'd actually take the time to look up each and every individual listed you'd found out they are all Jewish and what they own control many others. Instead of trying to prove me wrong and refute what I said, you reply with insults.

1394 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10

jandarujora wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


My point is you have no point. You pull some bullock from your arsehole, put a bunch of business owners, under the assumption that they are all Jews (Oh my god, German surname = Jews, God forbid that they should be actually be Germans), and then blame them for being successful in business, which appearantly is a crime. There is a disproportionally high amount of Aged people in business and in politics, I don't suppose that there is a conspiracy amongst the aged.


Assumption, my ass. If you'd actually take the time to look up each and every individual listed you'd found out they are all Jewish and what they own control many others. Instead of trying to prove me wrong and refute what I said, you reply with insults.



They are about as accurate as your last list- whose legitmacy being overturn with a simple Google search. But assume they are all Jews, why are there only a limited numbers of coperations. I assume that 20th Century Fox is not worth mentioning, Murdoch not being Jewish, and so, goes against your argument. Neither is Abercrombie and Flich, Yahoo, or McDonald, for the same reason. I can provide an equally long list with Asians, Blacks, or WASPs, but that doesn't prove anything, does it? Provide substance, and I shall respond.
4053 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / Yo Mommas House
Offline
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10
June 1, 2010
What Now?
Obama's Timidity and Deaths at Sea

By RAY McGOVERN

A chief lesson to learn from President Barack Obama’s recent unwillingness to stand up to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Likud Lobby is that such timidity can get people killed.

Casualty figures are still arriving in the wake of Israel’s Sunday night-Monday morning commando attack on an unarmed flotilla trying to bring relief supplies to the 1.5 million Palestinians crowded into Gaza. Already, at least nine civilian passengers are reported killed, and dozens wounded.

Seldom has an act of aggression been so well advertised in advance. Israel had made clear that it would use force to prevent the ships from reaching Gaza and heard no stern protest from President Obama, who apparently could not overcome his fear of Israel’s legendary political clout.

Earlier this year, Obama did criticize Israel’s continued settlement of Palestinian areas and Netanyahu’s resistance to holding meaningful peace talks, but the President has failed to follow up his words with firm action or resolve. Netanyahu concluded that Israel could do what it wished, including dropping commandos from helicopters onto crowded ships and, after alleging a clash with civilians, ordering the use of lethal force.

Then, Netanyahu could expect that America’s mainstreampress – with leading figures like Wolf Blitzer who built his journalistic career by working for the Jerusalem Post – would finesse the murderous assault into something reasonable and possibly even tilted sympathetically toward the Israeli troops.

Early on, CNN began repeating the Israeli “explanation” for its attack on the high seas, parroting the Jerusalem Post which reported that “militants were killed” after they set upon Israeli naval commandos who boarded one of the six ships Monday morning at two o’clock.

The commandos “were met with strong resistance from men armed with bladed weapons and the situation degenerated into a massacre when one of them grabbed the weapon of a soldier and opened fire,” said the Jerusalem Post, quoting Israeli military sources.

The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that the relief convoy organizers had a “radical Islamic anti-Western orientation,” and that Israeli “naval forces were attacked with metal clubs and knives, as well as live fire,” though there were no reports of Israeli deaths. The IDF statement continued:

“The demonstrators had clearly prepared their weapons in advance for this specific purpose,” adding that the Navy then used riot dispersal methods, which include live fire, according to JTA, the global news service of the Jewish people.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak blamed the organizers of the convoy for the violent outcome, and Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon told a news conference why that was so: “The organizers’ intent was violent, their method was violent, and unfortunately, the results were violent.”

So, you see, the Israeli military resorted to violence only in self-defense. Right.

Quiet Conversation

On Monday, President Obama spoke to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by phone about the incident. Afterwards, the White House said Obama had expressed “deep regret” over the deaths, but declined further comment, citing “the importance of learning all the facts and circumstances” as quickly as possible.

Don’t hold your breath, though, waiting for the timid Obama or his Likud-leaning advisers — much less the press— to question the Israeli version.

We are likely to get an “explanation” worthy of the late Alexander Haig as to why the slaughter may well have been “justified.” Haig’s death in February brought to mind comments he made about a brutal incident on the night of Dec. 2, 1980, shortly after Ronald Reagan’s election victory.

In rightist-ruled El Salvador, government security forces stopped four American churchwomen in their mini-van and were ordered to kill them. The soldiers first raped the women and then executed them with high-powered rifles. Reagan’s foreign policy team decided to treat the rape-murder as a public relations problem, best handled by shifting blame onto the victims. And so, the women were deemed not nuns, but “political activists.” (Today, “militants”—whatever that means—is often the label of choice.)

After becoming Reagan’s first Secretary of State, Haig told Congress that “the nuns may have run through a roadblock or may have accidentally been perceived to have been doing so, and there may have been an exchange of fire.”

In just a few weeks, the American women had gone from being innocent victims to “political activists” to armed insurgents – although knowledgeable U.S. government officials conceded there was no evidence to support Haig’s shoot-out speculation. As an intelligence analyst at the time, I knew of Haig’s inclination to make up stuff.

Watch for something similar to happen with respect to the “militants” or “activists” who were killed or wounded in the incident off Gaza. I avoid tuning in to the corporate media anymore (it’s just too much for my Irish temper), but I’m told that Israel-friendly pundits are already spinning faster than the famous centrifuges in Iran.

Uncle Remus’s Wisdom


“He Don’t Say Nothin’,” as Uncle Remus put it, with improper grammar but with an accurate understanding that by not saying anything you can often convey a powerful or dangerous message.

As a presidential candidate, Obama was careful to say nothing about the brutal Israeli blockade against the 1.5 million people in Gaza, about to enter its fourth year. As president-elect he stayed mum as the Israelis attacked densely populated Gaza, killing some 1,400 Gazans.

As President, he has backed down at every significant moment when Netanyahu thumbed his nose at Obama or at Vice President Joe Biden.

Obama knew about the “Freedom Flotilla” and its plan to bring supplies to Gaza. And he had to be aware of Israel’s threats to attack the relief ships. But, like Uncle Remus’s B’rer Fox, Obama “don’t say nothin.’”

Quite the contrary, Obama’s pro-Zionist White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, who recently vacationed in Israel and met with Netanyahu last Wednesday, extended an invitation for a working visit at the White House. Netanyahu was to visit Obama on Tuesday after a four-day visit to Canada.

On Monday morning, Netanyahu canceled out of a gala dinner to be held in his honor in Ottawa and nixed the visit to Washington. He said he hoped that both Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Obama “understand that Israel has a great security problem.”

Getting Away With Murder


The fatal incident off the Gaza coast was not the first time Israel had used lethal force against a nearly defenseless ship at sea. The attack on the “Freedom Flotilla” was reminiscent of the attack on the USS Liberty during Israel’s Six-Day War against three of its Arab neighbors.

The war started on June 5, 1967, when Israel carried out an unprovoked Blitzkrieg attack. What is my source for “unprovoked?” Former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, who 15 years later admitted publicly:

“In June 1967, we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that [Egyptian President] Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

Three days into the war, Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats turned their firepower on the intelligence collection ship USS Liberty in international waters after the Israelis had identified it as a U.S. Navy ship.

The Israelis later insisted that the strafing and torpedo attacks were accidents in the fog of war. However, U.S. intelligence intercepted Israeli conversations at the time showing the attacks were deliberate, and their nature and persistence showed clear intent to sink the Liberty and leave no survivors.

Israeli commandos clad in black were about to land from helicopters and finish off what remained of the Liberty crew when Seaman Terry Halbardier (later awarded the Silver Star) slid over the Liberty’s napalm-greased deck to jury-rig an antenna and get an SOS off to the Sixth Fleet.

Israeli forces intercepted the SOS and quickly broke off the attack. But 34 of the Liberty crew were killed and over 170 wounded.

To avoid exacerbating relations with Israel, the U.S. Navy was ordered to cover up the deliberate nature of the attack, and the surviving crew was threatened with imprisonment, if they so much as told their wives. When some of the crew later called for an independent investigation, they were hit with charges of anti-Semitism.

One of the surviving crew of the USS Liberty, decorated Navy veteran Joe Meadors, was with the “Freedom Flotilla” when it was attacked on Sunday night. Meadors is past president of the USS Liberty Veterans Association. The State Department tells us that Joe Meadors survived this latest Israeli attack. At last word, he sits in an Israeli jail.

Rachel Corrie

Another American was murdered in cold blood on March 16, 2003. Twenty-three year-old Rachel Corrie, a volunteer serving in Gaza with the International Solidarity Movement was run over by an Israeli Army bulldozer after a prolonged face-off in full view of several of her volunteer colleagues. Rachel had been trying to prevent the bulldozing of a Palestinian home where she had been staying.

The message the Israelis wanted to convey in killing Rachel Corrie was that international volunteers would no longer be exempt from the brutal treatment accorded young Israeli volunteers who tried to stand up, as Rachel did, for decent treatment of Palestinians in Gaza.

The mainstream press’ excitement over President George W. Bush’s eagerly anticipated “shock-and-awe” bombing of Iraq three days later pushed what limited coverage there was about Rachel’s murder to the back pages. The Israelis claimed the killing was an inadvertent mistake, like the shoot-up of the Liberty. The courageous Rachel was very much with the Freedom Flotilla in spirit. And a certain poetic justice is to be found in that one of the ships in the convoy bore the name “Rachel Corrie.”

Israel cannot hide behind “inadvertence” this time, although its spin-masters are already doing their best to smear the civilians on the ships with buzzwords, calling them “militants” and “terrorists” who “ambushed” and tried to “lynch” the Israeli commandos.

These P.R. tactics may work with the American mainstream press and neocons in Washington – and by extension the TV-watchers in the United States – but patience with Israel in the international community is wearing paper-thin.

Some Care About the Scandal of Gaza

Much of the world’s impatience has to do with Gaza, including the Israeli attack from Dec. 17, 2008, to Jan. 18, 2009, as well as the three-year blockade that began when Hamas won Palestinian elections and became the governing party in Gaza.

Israel and the U.S. government deem Hamas to be a terrorist organization, though some other countries regard it more as a resistance movement fighting against Israeli occupation.

Regardless of how one feels about Hamas, Israel’s harsh blockade of Gaza and last year’s military assault have inflicted a humanitarian disaster on the Palestinian people.

Has Netanyahu Gone Too Far?

Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan has reacted strongly to the Israeli attack on the relief ships, the largest of which sailed from Turkey. According to one report, Turkey has served warning that Turkish Navy ships will escort future relief convoys to Gaza.

Erdogan has had it with Israeli mistreatment of Muslims in his eastern Mediterranean neighborhood. On Jan. 29, 2009, at the economic summit in Davos, he leveled harsh criticism to Israeli President Shimon Peres’s face, labeling Gaza “an open-air prison.”

Erdogan angrily cited “the sixth commandment — Thou Shalt Not Kill,” adding, “We are talking about killing” in Gaza.

Five days before Erdogan’s outburst, the Brazilian government also condemned Israel’s bombing of Gaza and its effect on the civilian population as a “disproportionate response.”

It seems to have been the atrocity in Gaza—plus a common determination to prevent war from spreading to Iran—that galvanized the successful joint effort by Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan and Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva to defy Israel. They persuaded Iran to agree to transfer half of its low-enriched uranium to Turkey for further processing, rendering it unusable for a nuclear weapon.

Defy Israel? you ask. Confused? If the Israeli leaders truly believe that low-enriched uranium comprises an essential part of an “existential threat” to Israel from eventual nuclear weapons in Iran, would they not be delighted at Iran’s agreement to send half of that uranium out of the country? Good question.

Truth be told, Israel cares a lot less about Iran’s uranium that it does about forcing “regime change” in Tehran. Netanyahu does not want any agreement with Iran; he wants sanctions against Iran, and eventually a military conflict, with the U.S. jumping in to help finish Iran off.

And this twin wish is shared by American neocons who remain influential in the Obama administration and in the mainstream press.

The pro-Israeli hardliners are the ones running U.S. policy on the Middle East, not Obama, who seems only nominally in charge. Unusually clear proof of this came when the Brazilians released a letter revealing that Obama had personally encouraged the Brazilian and Turkish leaders to pursue the kind of deal they were able to work out with the Iranians.

Small wonder, then, that the leaders of Brazil and Turkey were taken aback when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other administration spokespeople trashed the tripartite Iran-Turkey-Brazil deal and pressed ahead with a new round of sanctions.

And the President? Did he step up and acknowledge that he had encouraged Brazil and Turkey to seek the uranium deal? Well, he don’t say nothin’.

Israeli Influence

While Americans continue to be starved of real information, better informed people around the world have come to view with disdain the degree to which Washington dogs are wagged by Israeli tails.

When I suggested five years ago before a Capitol Hill hearing chaired by Rep. John Conyers that Israel was right up there, together with oil and military bases, as comprising the real rationale for war on Iraq, I, too, was called anti-Semitic. But the evidence has always been as clear as it is abundant.

An inadvertent remark by a major player on Iraq, former British Prime Minister Blair, has provided insight — straight from the horse’s ass, I mean, mouth.

In early February 2010, the British press revealed that Blair, testifying to the Iraq war commission in the U.K., offered the following account of his discussions with Bush in Crawford, Texas, in April 2002. (That’s when Bush said war was the only way to deal with Saddam Hussein, and Blair acquiesced.) But Blair’s remarks revealed that Israeli concerns were a major part of the equation and that Israeli officials were involved in the discussions. Thus, Blair:

“As I recall that discussion, it was less to do with specifics about what we were going to do on Iraq or, indeed, the Middle East, because the Israel issue was a big, big issue at the time. I think, in fact, I remember, actually, there may have been conversations that we had even with Israelis, the two of us, whilst we were there. So that was a major part of all this."

It is a safe bet that Hillary Clinton’s Likud-friendly lieutenants and their new junior partners in London are busy conferring with Tel Aviv right now about how to handle the P.R. challenge caused by the upstart leaders of Turkey and Brazil with the temerity to work out a deal with Tehran. (Never mind that Obama personally asked them to do it.)

How does one make into a bad thing Iran’s agreement to ship half its uranium out of the country, even if additional steps might still be needed to assure the world that Iran is telling the truth when it says it isn’t building a nuclear bomb?

More and more people around the globe are seeing Obama as subservient to the Likud Lobby, perhaps not as enthusiastically as Bush was, but still unwilling to put action behind his occasional words of dissatisfaction. Important players in the Middle East, as well as increasingly assertive countries like Turkey and Brazil, conclude that the policies and behavior of Tel Aviv and Washington are virtually identical.

And then there is the $3 billion or so that the United States gives Israel each year that enables the Israelis to arm themselves to the teeth. It is understandable, then, that many will blame Washington for what happened in the dark of night, on the eve of Memorial Day, on the high seas.

Hard Lessons

The likely results are three-fold:

1)--On Memorial Day next year, there may well be hundreds more “fallen heroes” to honor
, killed by Muslim and other “militants” who make no distinction between what the U.S. has done in Iraq and Afghanistan and what Israel does in Gaza and the occupied West Bank — and add Lebanon and Syria, for good measure.

As Gen. David Petraeus pointed out earlier this year, the unresolved Arab-Israeli “conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel” and thus puts U.S. troops at greater risk.

“Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the [region] and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world,” Petraeus said. “Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support."

2)--The linking of U.S. support with Israeli actions increases the incentive of terrorists to ply their dark arts in the United States.

While it is difficult to find a measure of objectivity in official U.S. government documents on this topic, every so often there is a slip between cup and lip. There was such a slip on Sept. 23, 2004, for example, when the Pentagon-sponsored U.S. Defense Science Board issued a formal report concluding:

“Muslims do not ‘hate our freedom,’ but rather, they hate our policies. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights.”

You will not be surprised to find out that the board’s report was generally suppressed in the FCM, as were the following, more specific, examples:

“By his own account, KSM’s [9/11 “mastermind” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s] animus toward the United States stemmed not from his experience there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel.” [9/11 Commission Report, July 22, 2004, page 147]

And what motivated Dr. Humam Khalil Abu Mulal al-Balawi, the 32-year-old Jordanian physician of Palestinian origin, who on Dec. 30, 2009, detonated a suicide bomb at a CIA site in eastern Afghanistan, killing seven American CIA operatives? According to his brother, al-Balawi “changed” during the three-week-long Israeli offensive in Gaza, which killed some 1,400 Gazans.

When al-Balawi volunteered to treat injured Palestinians in Gaza, he was arrested by Jordanian authorities, his brother said. It was after that arrest that al-Balawi allowed himself to be “recruited” to spy on al-Qaeda for the CIA. Quickly, it became payback time for Americans and Jordanians whom he associated with Israel.

Christmas underpants bomber Abdulmuttallab, also is reported to have been particularly outraged by Israel’s slaughter of Gazans at the turn of 2008-09 and Washington’s defense of Israel’s action.

That Israeli actions in Gaza acted as catalysts to al-Balawi’s and Abdulmuttallab’s determination to exact revenge on the U.S. is hardly surprising — the more so in view of Washington’s efforts to suppress the findings of the UN-commissioned Gaza investigation by Justice Richard Goldstone. His report concluded that:

“The blockade policies implemented by Israel against the Gaza Strip, in particular the closure of or restrictions imposed on border crossings in the immediate period before the military operations, subjected the local population to extreme hardship and deprivations that amounted to a violation of Israel’s obligations as an Occupying Power under the Fourth Geneva Convention. …

“Israel has essentially violated its obligation to allow free passage of all consignments of medical and hospital objects, food, and clothing that were needed to meet the urgent humanitarian needs of the civilian population …

“The Mission concludes that the conditions resulting from deliberate actions of the Israeli forces and the declared policies of the Government with regard to the Gaza Strip before, during, and after the military operation cumulatively indicate the intention to inflict collective punishment on the people of the Gaza Strip.

“The Mission, therefore, finds a violation of the provisions of Articles 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.”

3)--Attacking Iran

It is no secret that this goal enjoys high priority on Netanyahu’s agenda. It could be stopped in its tracks by a public warning from President Obama. But all signs point to his bending to neocon advice to shy away from a showdown and, rather, leave everything, including another war of aggression, “on the table.”

The fact that world leaders consider Netanyahu a clear and present danger to peace in the region is shown by the way the leaders of Turkey and Brazil moved at an accelerated pace to bend the Iranians to the kind of deal that Obama personally had advocated, before being overruled by Hillary Clinton and others in his misguided Team of Rivals.

The urgency of the Turkey-Brazil initiative came through in the words of Brazilian President Lula da Silva, who could hardly have been more explicit:

“We can't allow to happen in Iran what happened in Iraq. Before any sanctions, we must undertake all possible efforts to try and build peace in the Middle East."

Green Light?

Netanyahu listens only to Washington, when he listens at all. Following the bloody attack on the Freedom Flotilla, I imagine he will now get at most a mealy-mouthed “please-don’t-do-this-again” from the White House, together with acquiescence in an Al-Haig-type made-up excuse about an “exchange” of fire.

If that proves to be the case, Netanyahu is altogether likely to consider that Israel has a green light to provoke hostilities with Iran, with the full expectation that the United States will jump right in to help the non-ally ally finish the job.

Non-ally ally? Sorry, despite what you hear from Obama, Congress and the whole Washington Establishment, Israel is not an ally of the United States. Webster’s (and international law) define ally as “a state associated with another by treaty.”

There is no mutual defense treaty between the U.S. and Israel. (Washington has broached the idea to Israel from time to time, but Israel has said no thanks. Treaties, you see, require internationally recognized borders, and—for obvious reasons—Israeli leaders avoid that subject like the plague.)

NATO member Turkey, on the other hand, is a U.S. ally. This could make things very awkward if Turkey sends its warships to accompany the next convoy trying to lift the siege of Gaza. It is possible that Washington may have to choose between a real ally and a synthetic one, if shots are fired.

Israel’s Attack Illegal; What Now?

Craig Murray, a former British ambassador and Foreign Office specialist on maritime law (and VIPS member), has just weighed in with a helpful description of two clear legal possibilities, which take into account both international law and the Law of the Sea:

Possibility one is that the Israeli commandos were acting on behalf of the
government of Israel in killing the activists in international waters. The applicable law is that of the flag state of the ship on which the incident occurred.
In legal terms, the Turkish ship was Turkish territory. So in this case Israel is in a position of war with Turkey, and the attack by Israeli commandos falls under international jurisdiction as a war crime.

Possibility two is that, if the killings were not military actions authorized by Israel, they were then acts of murder and fall under Turkish jurisdiction. If Israel does not consider itself in a position of war with Turkey, it must hand over the commandos involved for trial in Turkey under Turkish law. It is for Turkey, not Israel, to carry out any inquiry or investigation and to initiate any prosecutions. Israel would be obliged by law to hand over indicted personnel for prosecution.

Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. As an Army infantry/intelligence officer and later a CIA analyst, he spent almost 30 years in intelligence work. He is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10

orangeflute wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


My point is you have no point. You pull some bullock from your arsehole, put a bunch of business owners, under the assumption that they are all Jews (Oh my god, German surname = Jews, God forbid that they should be actually be Germans), and then blame them for being successful in business, which appearantly is a crime. There is a disproportionally high amount of Aged people in business and in politics, I don't suppose that there is a conspiracy amongst the aged.


Assumption, my ass. If you'd actually take the time to look up each and every individual listed you'd found out they are all Jewish and what they own control many others. Instead of trying to prove me wrong and refute what I said, you reply with insults.



They are about as accurate as your last list- whose legitmacy being overturn with a simple Google search. But assume they are all Jews, why are there only a limited numbers of coperations. I assume that 20th Century Fox is not worth mentioning, Murdoch not being Jewish, and so, goes against your argument. Neither is Abercrombie and Flich, Yahoo, or McDonald, for the same reason. I can provide an equally long list with Asians, Blacks, or WASPs, but that doesn't prove anything, does it? Provide substance, and I shall respond.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mike Jeffries (current CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch) was hired by Leslie Wexner (CEO of Limited Brands). Wexner is Jewish. I have no doubt in my mind that Google will eventually merge or buy out Yahoo so that it will be under Jewish control. If not Google then it will be Microsoft, whose CEO is Steve Ballmer, who is half-Jewish. Yahoo's CEO Jerry Yang was pushed out of his position by activist investor Carl Icahn, who was Jewish. No doubt they will eventually take McDonald's. Everything happens slowly and step by step. No one really knows Murdoch's religion because it's so well-guarded but why does it have to be secretive?
1394 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/1/10

jandarujora wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


jandarujora wrote:


jandarujora wrote:

Jews are small in population, but they are in charge of a lot of things, garnering all the profit in the world to keep that fascist state of Israel alive and powerful. Let's look at a FEW examples of what they own from within America, even facilitating the trends currently present in pop culture. They are either fully Jewish or partly Jewish:

CONTROLLERS OF THE MONEY SUPPLY
Federal Reserve: Ben Bernanke
Internal Revenue Service: Douglas Shulman
International Monetary Fund: Dominique Strauss-Kahn
World Bank: (formerly) Paul Wolfowitz
Federal Trade Commission: Jon Leibowitz
Goldman Sachs: Lloyd Blankfein
Lehman Brothers: Richard S. Fuld, Jr.

HEADS OF MEGA CORPORATIONS
Union Carbide: Patrick E. Gottschalk (who still hasn't taken responsibility for the Bhopal disaster)
Pfizer: Jeff Kindler
General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt

CEOs/CHAIRMEN OF THE MEDIA CORPORATIONS
CBS Corporation: Sumner M. Redstone (who also owns Viacom, which owns Paramount PIctures)
Weinstein Company: Harvey and Bob Weinstein
Lionsgate: Jon Feltheimer
Fox Entertainment: Peter Chernin
Walt Disney Company: Robert Iger
NBC Universal: Jeffrey Zucker
Metro-Goldwyn Mayer: Harry Sloan
Dreamworks: Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, David Geffen
New Line Cinema: Toby Emmerich

Jews also hire other Jews to direct/produce the biggest blockbuster films: Jerry Bruckheimer, Jon Favreau, Sam Raimi, Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, Gore Verbinski, etc.

CEOs/CHAIRMEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
Warner Music Group: Edgar Bronfman Jr.
Columbia Records: Rick Rubin
Sony Music Entertainment: Clive Davis
Geffen Records: David Geffen

COMMISSIONERS IN THE SPORTS INDUSTRY
Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
National Basketball Association: David Stern
National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
U.S. Soccer Federation: Alan Rothenberg (founder)

ESPN is also owned by Walt Disney Company

LEADERS IN AMERICA'S SMUT CULTURE
Pornographic star: Ron Jeremy
Tabloid show host: Jerry Springer
Talk show legend: Howard Stern

CHAIRPERSONS IN CLOTHING INDUSTRY
Levi Strauss: Richard Kauffman
Liz Claiborne: Isaac Mizrahi (creative director)
Ralph Lauren: Ralph Rueben Lifshitz
Guess: Paul Marciano
Calvin Klein: Calvin Klein
Jordache: Nakash Brothers
Chanel: Wertheimer Brothers

OTHER LEADERS IN TODAY'S SOCIETY
Facebook CEO: Mark Zuckerberg
Google CEO: Eric Schmidt
Starbucks CEO: Howard Schultz
Kraft Foods CEO: Irene Rosenfeld

Feel free to add more to this list. And this is just a few examples coming from a single country, which they only constitute 2% of the population. A few of these people have also had histories of activity within the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Affairs, and even the Bohemian Club. They have all the lobbying power and bribe money to continue propping up that fabricated nation of theirs, while being the bosses of international capitalism.

"HE WHO HAS THE MONEY MAKES THE RULES."

--------

Oh bleeding no! How can we allow Jews to be ambitious, talented and take jobs?! These people have every right to hold their positions and they equally have every right to support Israel the same way you wouldn't deny the right to anyone else to support his or her state. Also, bribery is a criminal allegation, it wouldn't hurt if you could point to convictions and even in the case that you do, that only demonstrates the point with specific natural persons, from a legal perspective. There is, now, no such concept in the jurisdictions of developed countries as ethnic, national, race or class crime or anything among those lines.


You, just like orangeflute, still don't get it. Did you not take a look at the companies in that list? When you have a majority of the money in a country being made and controlled by one group (using their "right" to hold those positions) they end up having all the authority they want and only in their interests. They have all the proftis to have supreme reign over world political affairs, public opinion, pop culture, etc. with their lobbying power and any policy can be enacted in their favor and protected. In other words, they've got the politicians and the courts in their wallets and tell you what they want you to hear in their media.

Americans just don't want to wake up every morning realizing their nation is run by a tribe. The European Union is pretty much perpetuated by Rothschild. I grew up in Africa and I'll forever spit on those blood diamond companies like De Beers, owned by Oppenheimer. Israel's crimes against humanity need to be put in the light. It is the leader in the Middle East in both sex slavery and organ harvesting and who knows what else, while using the "anti-Semitism" brush to silence anyone of its terrorism. It literally has the whole world by the balls.


My point is you have no point. You pull some bullock from your arsehole, put a bunch of business owners, under the assumption that they are all Jews (Oh my god, German surname = Jews, God forbid that they should be actually be Germans), and then blame them for being successful in business, which appearantly is a crime. There is a disproportionally high amount of Aged people in business and in politics, I don't suppose that there is a conspiracy amongst the aged.


Assumption, my ass. If you'd actually take the time to look up each and every individual listed you'd found out they are all Jewish and what they own control many others. Instead of trying to prove me wrong and refute what I said, you reply with insults.



They are about as accurate as your last list- whose legitmacy being overturn with a simple Google search. But assume they are all Jews, why are there only a limited numbers of coperations. I assume that 20th Century Fox is not worth mentioning, Murdoch not being Jewish, and so, goes against your argument. Neither is Abercrombie and Flich, Yahoo, or McDonald, for the same reason. I can provide an equally long list with Asians, Blacks, or WASPs, but that doesn't prove anything, does it? Provide substance, and I shall respond.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mike Jeffries (current CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch) was hired by Leslie Wexner (CEO of Limited Brands). Wexner is Jewish. I have no doubt in my mind that Google will eventually merge or buy out Yahoo so that it will be under Jewish control. If not Google then it will be Microsoft, whose CEO is Steve Ballmer, who is half-Jewish. Yahoo's CEO Jerry Yang was pushed out of his position by activist investor Carl Icahn, who was Jewish. No doubt they will eventually take McDonald's. Everything happens slowly and step by step. No one really knows Murdoch's religion because it's so well-guarded but why does it have to be secretive?


Maybe, but the premise is that all owners of major corperations are Jewish, and, seeing as many CEOs are, indeed, not at all Jewish, which can be proven with a simple search on the internet. And, pray, how can you be 'half-Jewish'? Do you attend a synagouge for half the service, before skipping away and frolicking? Do you eat half-kosher meals? And, seeing as how, obviously, McDonald, KFC, Walmart, Fox, Yahoo (with your baseless accusation), &c. are not own by Jews, you have failed. In responce to your accusation about Mr Murdoch:
http://www.nndb.com/people/420/000023351/#FN1

That is definately a definative answer. But, why stop at Jews when you are picking and chosing religious affiliations that are convient, why not go out and attack (insert group here) with such baseless accusation and idiocy. Oh no, the Gypsies are trying to control the world. Why do they need to travel? To spy, of course!
1394 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 6/1/10 , edited 6/1/10
I can continue with this pointless argument over whether Jews indeed are controlling the world or not, but, as it stand, I have a limited patience for the baseless foolishness and unfounded idiocy that you spout. I believe that this would be the best place to stop before you start quoting from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
55090 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
52 / F / Atlanta GA
Offline
Posted 6/2/10
Ya the Israelis bad people man, they live with peaceful Muslim over a million no problem. By the the way how can you tell an Abra Muslim from a Palestine one. Did you know most of the Palestine lived in Jordan until the king forced them out by gun point. The Israelis even treat Muslim combatant with some top notch hospitals. Please do not parrot your teacher i have herd the school system have started to pick on Israelis. The Palestine elected a group of murdering thug to be there government. I do not understand why Israelis has been so patient with them. I would drive out that section into other Muslim nation and watch just how fast they would cut them down.Nobody wants the so called radical Palestine's. Jordan Syria Iran keep weapon and money to fight a proxy war.By the way Palestine home land lies mostly in Jordan.
4053 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / Yo Mommas House
Offline
Posted 6/6/10 , edited 6/6/10
What Israel’s Execution Of An American Teen Means

We Can Kill Anyone, Anywhere, No Reason Needed, We Are Terrorists

By Gordon Duff


Israeli “comandos” executed peace activists, mostly with shots to the back of the head at point blank range, while prisoners were kneeling, according to a report from an Israeli paper, based on autoposy results


An American teenager Furkan Dogan was murdered by Israeli commandos, pirates really, this week. He was shot in the abdomen and, instead of being given medical aid, he was held down on the deck of a ship, probably by multiple pairs of combat boots and shot four times in the back of the head at close range. Reports from the Israeli Knesset have Israeli boats approaching the unarmed flotilla, machine guns pouring lead across the decks. These facts won’ t be in any American or British newspaper or on the television news, not the corporate networks anyway. Israel dictates what is reported, even by the BBC, an organization they control entirely.

This isn’t the first time this has happened, an Israeli military force has gone after a ship in the Mediterranean. The most glaring case is the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. With President Lyndon Johnson agreeing to support the Israeli invasion of Egypt and Syria, a quick land grab started by a Pearl Harbor type sneak attack, it wasn’t certain that the American military would support this kind of cowardly aggression. Thus, the American monitoring ship, the USS Liberty, had to be sunk and its entire crew wiped out to a man. President Johnson approved, Admiral Sidney McCain agreed to cover it up and Israel sent wave after wave of bombers, torpedo boats and fighter aircraft out but the USS Liberty never went down. 34 Americans were murdered by Israel that day.

The USS Liberty incident should have taken down the Johnson presidency, ended the “special relationship” with Israel and opened the 6 Day War to real scrutiny for what it was, Israeli expansionism. If the United States had reacted then, there would have been no 1974 oil embargo, no Ayatollah in Iran, no “war on terror,” no 9/11 and no world economic collapse. A single act of treason 43 years ago changed the world for the worse, erasing our triumphs in World War 2 and erasing the economic boon the collapse of the Soviet Union should have brought the world.

Is It Still Treason When Nobody Knows?

The current attack against the Freedom Flotilla deeply parallels the USS Liberty attack. The attack on the Liberty was an act of war against the United States. This required retaliation. There was none. “What it wasn’t was an “accident.” Israel now calls the murder of an American teenager.” Allowing Israel to get away with this, an attack on a US Navy ship in international waters was one of the worst acts of treason and cowardice in American history but it was also a more significant error. America gave up its sovereignty to Israel. Johnson had been bought and paid for long before, years of sexcapades in Hollywood, arranged by studio heads and, at the time of the USS Liberty attack, bedding an Irgun operative, Matilda Krim. Johnson had seen “the outfit” get rid of President Kennedy and knew he had to ”toe the line.” Another Kennedy would die and, after that, no American leader would oppose Israel again, not without a plane crash, sex scandal or being removed from office through a massive deluge of cash.

Murder

When an American citizen is murdered anywhere in the world, our embassy is involved, the FBI asks to assist in the investigation and the State Department monitors the case from beginning to end. In 1812, we went to war over the kidnapping of Americans from ships at sea. We entered World War I because of a German attack that killed Americans, an attack on a ship carrying arms during a war.

Were a soldier from any army or police force in the world to shoot an unarmed American on their own territory, an apology would be offered immediately, reparations made and still, they would face military retaliation. Such an incident is state terrorism by definition.

The idea of a member of a military group murdering an American, not an accidental shooting but an execution, not within their sovereign borders but during an act of piracy in international waters, America would have an obligation to respond militarily to a terrorist attack. However, not only was nothing done, nothing has been said. America is only admitting that it is no longer a sovereign nation. It can’t, it won’t protect its citizens, it won’t even act in concert with the international community. America is a colony of a police state, a colony of a terrorist evildoer.

No American Safe, U.S. Passports Now Worthless

The message Obama, Biden, Schumer, McCain and Lieberman sent out is clear. If you want to spit on an American soldier in Germany or Italy, we don’t care. If you rape an American woman in a hotel, kidnap an American child anywhere in the world, America isn’t concerned, not unless the child is a Jew. America is obsessed with one thing and one thing only, protecting Jews, Israeli, American, it doesn’t matter. Why is this?

Only a kidnapped Jew gets news exposure. Anyone else “had it coming.” How can a large nation allow racial discrimination against its own majority Christian population? If we didn’t see it, who would believe it. We even allow our own military to be murdered and say nothing. How can such a little country have so much power. Did America really surrender her national sovereignty to Israel so many years ago?

American Outrage

It is the American military that is reacting to this latest provocation with the most anger. After years of conditioning to see Muslims as a less than human, years of deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan have mellowed even the most strident “Zionist Evangelical” crusaders bent on killing every Arab they could get their hands on, products of Rumsfeld’s Department of Defense propaganda machine.

The America that only knew of the Middle East from watching villainous “greasy” Arab terrorist and Nordic looking Israeli “freedom fighters” with their blonde hair and aquiline features play out “comic book melodramas’ on television. Each show always ends the same, credits that look like an Anti-Defamation League or AIPAC membership list, producers, directors, writers, editors, even the caterers.

Decade after decade Americans were being fed a constant diet, are being fed a constant diet of race hatred. Now Americans, particularly American soldiers, many of whom have spent years living with tribesmen in Afghanistan or playing with kids on the dusty streets of Iraq, our kids, our soldiers know better. The picture now in their minds is that of an American teenager being executed by a criminal gang, protected by the Israel lobby in the United States, protected by cowards like Barak Hussein Obama, protected by a nation that has lived for decades above any law.

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran. A 100% disabled vet. He has been a featured commentator on TV and radio including Al Jazeera and his articles have been carried by news services around the world. He has been a UN Diplomat, defense contractor and is a widely published expert on military and defense issues. This article first appeared in Veterans and Foreign Affairs Journal.


Senior Editor: Veterans Today .
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.