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Posted 5/31/10 , edited 5/31/10
Should we move our troops out of Okinawa, a land we don't own, and into Guam, which we do?
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Posted 5/31/10

orangeflute wrote:

Should we move our troops out of Okinawa, a land we don't own, and into Guam, which we do?


Who is "we"?
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habercrombie wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Should we move our troops out of Okinawa, a land we don't own, and into Guam, which we do?


Who is "we"?


America, of course. I do not recall any other western nation having bases on that island, and, indeed, to the best of my knowledge, we are the only military presence there.
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Posted 5/31/10

orangeflute wrote:


habercrombie wrote:


orangeflute wrote:

Should we move our troops out of Okinawa, a land we don't own, and into Guam, which we do?


Who is "we"?


America, of course. I do not recall any other western nation having bases on that island, and, indeed, to the best of my knowledge, we are the only military presence there.


Just wanted a clarification. I did not know if the United States was the only western nation with a military base on the island.
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i think we share it with some other nations i don't believe its just us. i think we might have canadians or some thing there to.after all they do come to the us and etc.
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Ugh, the Okinawa base is a sore point if there ever was one.
After what happened in 1995 (four US Marines stole a van, then kidnapped and gang-raped a 12-year-old girl), I can't say I support the US military's presence there. If it helps mend some wounds in US-Japanese relations, I say pull out.

Also on a similar note, I think we should leave South Korea, too, after a highly publicized incident in 2002 in which a group of US Army soldiers ran over two 14-year-old schoolgirls with a tank as part of their "training exercises" and a military court found the offenders innocent, OJ Simpson style. Now American civilians are not allowed in businesses in the country. Proof below.

If our presence is creating such hostility, I say we should get on out of there. Sorry doesn't cut it in these instances.
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HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

Ugh, the Okinawa base is a sore point if there ever was one.
After what happened in 1995 (four US Marines stole a van, then kidnapped and gang-raped a 12-year-old girl), I can't say I support the US military's presence there. If it helps mend some wounds in US-Japanese relations, I say pull out.

Also on a similar note, I think we should leave South Korea, too, after a highly publicized incident in 2002 in which a group of US Army soldiers ran over two 14-year-old schoolgirls with a tank as part of their "training exercises" and a military court found the offenders innocent, OJ Simpson style. Now American civilians are not allowed in businesses in the country. Proof below.

If our presence is creating such hostility, I say we should get on out of there. Sorry doesn't cut it in these instances.


You can't be clearer than that.
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America already has a base in Guam
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Posted 3/20/11
I think the lovely lady above me basically ended the thread, and I couldn't agree more.
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HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

Ugh, the Okinawa base is a sore point if there ever was one.
After what happened in 1995 (four US Marines stole a van, then kidnapped and gang-raped a 12-year-old girl), I can't say I support the US military's presence there. If it helps mend some wounds in US-Japanese relations, I say pull out.

Also on a similar note, I think we should leave South Korea, too, after a highly publicized incident in 2002 in which a group of US Army soldiers ran over two 14-year-old schoolgirls with a tank as part of their "training exercises" and a military court found the offenders innocent, OJ Simpson style. Now American civilians are not allowed in businesses in the country. Proof below.

If our presence is creating such hostility, I say we should get on out of there. Sorry doesn't cut it in these instances.


According to Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident US Navy Seaman Marcus Gill and US Marines Rodrico Harp and Kendrick Ledet were handed over to Japan by the United States, and all spent 6 1/2 to 7 years in prison. After that, they were dishonorably discharged from the US Military. Also, their families had to pay compensation to the victim's family. In 1996, the United States and Japan agreed that the United States military would reduce the amount of land occupied in Okinawa. Has this actually happened?
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HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

Ugh, the Okinawa base is a sore point if there ever was one.
After what happened in 1995 (four US Marines stole a van, then kidnapped and gang-raped a 12-year-old girl), I can't say I support the US military's presence there. If it helps mend some wounds in US-Japanese relations, I say pull out.

Also on a similar note, I think we should leave South Korea, too, after a highly publicized incident in 2002 in which a group of US Army soldiers ran over two 14-year-old schoolgirls with a tank as part of their "training exercises" and a military court found the offenders innocent, OJ Simpson style. Now American civilians are not allowed in businesses in the country. Proof below.

If our presence is creating such hostility, I say we should get on out of there. Sorry doesn't cut it in these instances.


What happened in South Korea was deemed an accident by both the United States Army and South Korea's national police. Find more information at  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangju_highway_incident. The article at http://rokdrop.com/2008/06/13/gi-myths-the-2002-armored-vehicle-accident/ seems to have many more details, while it is defensive of the US Army in tone.
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