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Why do people feel a need to butcher our language when in the presence of electronic devices?
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I don't get why people make such a big deal out of it. I mean, if it's totally incomprehensible, that's one thing, but if it's someone using 'u' instead of 'you' or '2' instead of 'to' or 'too', it's not hurting anyone. "But I can't read it!" is always a nice load of bullshit, because 9/10 times the slang pretty obvious. The other 1 time, it's not going to kill anybody to look it up.

Blah. Sorry for kinda ranting, had to get that out of my system.
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It could be because most people either don't care or are too lazy, and to be honest, it's of little importance to me. If I'm able to understand what you're conveying, then I could care less about your spelling. However, if you butcher the language so much to the point where it's incomprehensible, then I become annoyed.

Or have you ever thought of the fact that these people may not be fluent in the English language, even with spell check?
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lol what a way to put it
if i dont understand what your saying i just stare
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Actually I find the ones who are the worst when it comes to the Queen's English are those who don't speak any other language. Most ESL (English as a second language) types try really hard. Most of the terrible language and so called 'elite' speak seems to come from people who can't be arsed to communicate clearly in the only language they know.

And I beg to differ on the 'you can understand it most of the time' argument. I can't. and even when I do I find it irritating. 'u' instead of 'you', non-words such as 'p4wnd' just look illiterate to me. They severely downgrade my estimation of the intelligence or diligence of the writer, and consequently any value I might have placed on their opinions/arguments/feelings.

We all make typos, and sometimes there's an unnecessary contraction or a dangling participle left laying around. I personally tend to type homonyms of words I mean to type and find myself going back and correcting. I can forgive honest mistakes. I've got no time for someone who is too lazy to string a three word sentence together without correctly spelling at least one of the words.
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If what you mean by butcher is to abbreviate, then yeah, it's pretty commonplace now... I find it quite difficult and tiring to read.
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Sometimes I hate it because I can never understand people that are really into the slang. I use it at times, but its never bad enough to where anybody can't read what i'm texting.
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I have no idea. It doesn't save time, I believe it's just pure laziness. My former boss (and now buddy) uses txt "speak" on his blackberry (with a full QWERTY keyboard) and I could respond on my normal every day cell phone with proper punctuation and spelling faster than he could.
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Eeeh I get over abbreviations pretty easily
The things I can't stand are;

"wen dey wryt lyk dis". THAT IS WRONG. TOO FAR MAN TOO FAR.

"Or WhEn ThEy WrItE LiKe ThIs." ITS JUST UGLY.

It's not like I tell people to not do it, I just sit behind my computer raging, it's just a pet hate of mine. I use correct grammar and puncuation in texts too, which i wish I didn't since it takes that much longer. It's just something that I'm picky about. 8DD
Maybe the fact I take English Literature and English Language at A Level has something to do with it D;
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Actually I find the ones who are the worst when it comes to the Queen's English are those who don't speak any other language. Most ESL (English as a second language) types try really hard. Most of the terrible language and so called 'elite' speak seems to come from people who can't be arsed to communicate clearly in the only language they know.

And I beg to differ on the 'you can understand it most of the time' argument. I can't. and even when I do I find it irritating. 'u' instead of 'you', non-words such as 'p4wnd' just look illiterate to me. They severely downgrade my estimation of the intelligence or diligence of the writer, and consequently any value I might have placed on their opinions/arguments/feelings.

We all make typos, and sometimes there's an unnecessary contraction or a dangling participle left laying around. I personally tend to type homonyms of words I mean to type and find myself going back and correcting. I can forgive honest mistakes. I've got no time for someone who is too lazy to string a three word sentence together without correctly spelling at least one of the words.


This expresses the majority of my thought. In degradation of how I perceive the person, that often leads to me assuming that they're young as well, as trying to interpret the sentences gives a notable childish tone to it.

I also dislike it as it slows down the speed of my reading. The rules of our language doesn't makes it easy to pronounce all of the gibberish, therefore not meeting what the mind expects causing a need for more careful observance.

There's absolutely no reason someone in front of a keyboard should ever use such abbreviations, unless they're still young and slow. Cellphones have plenty of tools and still new ones being introduced to make typing easier. Unless your hard pressed for time, I see no conceivable reason why english is still so difficult to type. I explain to my friend the conditions before I depart for his house, and I get a response of "ya". I fear some of these people honestly believe "ya" is "yeah".

There are illogical elements of our language, which I don't mind people screwing up by doing the logical thing, but that rarely coincides with this area.

The only time I permit myself typos and incomplete sentences is on battlefields, as that is an instance where time is crucial. But the majority I still have enough time to remain fully intelligible.

I still don't know whether I'm supposed to read "ur" as "you are" or "your" with the inconsistent usage.
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Firstly, there are those who are completely able to communicate in english perfectly well and choose to 'shorten' their sentences by abbreviating them. Though sometimes it becomes too abbreviated to the point that i took longer to read them than if the words are spelt out completely. I guess they want to 'save time' typing.

Secondly, there are those people who just....let's just say, not very fluent in English - their sentences are full of grammar, spelling and other mistakes. Well, i cant say much about that, except that please try to improve your english before trying to communicate using English, because if not used correctly, there may be cases of miscommunication which may have severe consequences, such as misunderstandings.

Thirdly, some people seem to think it's 'cool' to abbreviate the english words or use numbers... like "for4v4r". All i can say is... the letter 'a' in your keyboard is not there for nothing.

Well, though there may be times when we made careless grammar or spelling mistakes. The English language is beautiful (well at least i personally feel this way) and let us show our appreciation of the language by using it properly.
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Sekushi_Sushi wrote:

I don't get why people make such a big deal out of it. I mean, if it's totally incomprehensible, that's one thing, but if it's someone using 'u' instead of 'you' or '2' instead of 'to' or 'too', it's not hurting anyone. "But I can't read it!" is always a nice load of bullshit, because 9/10 times the slang pretty obvious. The other 1 time, it's not going to kill anybody to look it up.

Blah. Sorry for kinda ranting, had to get that out of my system.


They should at the very least make an effort to utilise proper orthography and grammar. It is not about comprehension, it is about our language. Why should we ignore the rules of the language just for the sake of making everything easier? And, even in comprehensibility, 'slang', as you put it, is hardly so, using shortcuts that fail to recognise the fact that homophones exist in our language and that sometime, not all of us can understand such gibberish- not all of us are blest with English as our first language.
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LosingOrbit wrote:

It could be because most people either don't care or are too lazy, and to be honest, it's of little importance to me. If I'm able to understand what you're conveying, then I could care less about your spelling. However, if you butcher the language so much to the point where it's incomprehensible, then I become annoyed.

Or have you ever thought of the fact that these people may not be fluent in the English language, even with spell check?


I am not fluent! I learn English through ESL, barely making out with passing mark. If I made the effort, why shouldn't they, especially when most of the offenders, and the worst of them, are native speakers of our tongue.
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