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Oh! Oh! What really irritates me is when the writer put an apostrophe in "its" or a plural word. Does this irk anyone else?


It would but I catch myself doing it so often that I'd be a hypocrite to complain. It's not like I don't know the difference ... it's more my fingers deliberately type the wrong homonyms. once I caught myself referring to a government body by its acronym and literally typing out the sound-a-likes of the letters. (Unemployment Insurance Canada=UIC= (typed) You-Eye-See) but yeah. "Its" is the possessive of 'it' and "It's" is a contraction of 'it is' it'd be nice if more people knew the difference.


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Well "UhOh", I for one, think you're butchering the language as well. But I'm probably just another curmudgeon who needs to "get with the times."

I wouldn't let "uhoh" worry you so much "Orangeflute". Remember that arguing on the internet is like competing in and idiot contest. Even if you win you're still an idiot.

Let it go.

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I think people are annoyed not only by poor English usage, but also by poor typing, lack of proofreading and unorganized writing. It becomes frustrating for readers, who waste their time (a precious commodity to many of us) reading poorly written posts. It also annoys those of us who see a youth in America who care little about their studies.


Nail on the head there.

I'm a terrible typist. and While I have delusions of someday being a fiction writer I'd never claim to be a great grammarian or a master of logical debate. Any illusion of being skilled with the Queen's English comes from the fact that I do take a few seconds and use of the 'preview' button before I post.

However, when you see posts by people who cannot string a coherent sentence together let alone some longer argument/position. It's disappointing. It also leads to dismissal of the author as worth your time.


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And Confucius created a system to enhance and perpetuate the imperial system of China to the point where progress is actively hindered by the inherent mechanism of the state. I highly doubt I would take any of his advices seriously. If you are wondering, look right below your post, and, lo and behold, there's my rebuttal.


dude, let it go....

ive resigned myself from this thread because its fueling more and more nonesense and as much as its fun arguing i think we made it full circle i like text lang in mild doses simple as that now if u dont agree fine... if ur in the USA its a free country.


ur=your or you're
ive= i've
its= its or it's
dont=don't
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Well "UhOh", I for one, think you're butchering the language as well. But I'm probably just another curmudgeon who needs to "get with the times."

I wouldn't let "uhoh" worry you so much "Orangeflute". Remember that arguing on the internet is like competing in and idiot contest. Even if you win you're still an idiot.

Let it go.



if u havent already noticed i'll spell it out I LET IT GO ALREADY ive stopped posting tell that to Orange who just posted something with my name in quotes

how am i butchering (rhetorical question)? i know the basics of the language sure im not really good at grammar and writing (never have) but i'm entitled to altering it to my convenience. y should other people care how i convey my thoughts its not like i use super heavy text slang it's not that difficult to figure out what i'm talking about unless u r a foreigner bearly learning english.

so unless someone is considering me for employment / am on the clock at work i wont b told how i should write

just so u no i write normally for stuff outside of computers like hand written papers and such only for leisure computer stuff like this do i "butcher" this lang

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Eeeh I get over abbreviations pretty easily
The things I can't stand are;

"wen dey wryt lyk dis". THAT IS WRONG. TOO FAR MAN TOO FAR.

"Or WhEn ThEy WrItE LiKe ThIs." ITS JUST UGLY.

It's not like I tell people to not do it, I just sit behind my computer raging, it's just a pet hate of mine. I use correct grammar and puncuation in texts too, which i wish I didn't since it takes that much longer. It's just something that I'm picky about. 8DD
Maybe the fact I take English Literature and English Language at A Level has something to do with it D;



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Read your text again and you'll see you've forgotten to put a i in capitals, and it's punctuation not puncuation
KLNJFDHISKL:MVHNJKFLKDSHJVd

Posted 6/4/10 , edited 6/4/10

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rosie00 wrote:

Eeeh I get over abbreviations pretty easily
The things I can't stand are;

"wen dey wryt lyk dis". THAT IS WRONG. TOO FAR MAN TOO FAR.

"Or WhEn ThEy WrItE LiKe ThIs." ITS JUST UGLY.

It's not like I tell people to not do it, I just sit behind my computer raging, it's just a pet hate of mine. I use correct grammar and puncuation in texts too, which i wish I didn't since it takes that much longer. It's just something that I'm picky about. 8DD
Maybe the fact I take English Literature and English Language at A Level has something to do with it D;



LIES NGUHIJOFVHJKGDISOAVrfgt



Read your text again and you'll see you've forgotten to put a i in capitals, and it's punctuation not puncuation
KLNJFDHISKL:MVHNJKFLKDSHJVd



OLOLOLOL. OH THE IRONY.
BTW DEWD. It should be "forgotten to put an i in capitals" ;D
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LOL. This is going to be a grammar competition huh? xDD
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if u havent already noticed i'll spell it out I LET IT GO ALREADY ive stopped posting tell that to Orange who just posted something with my name in quotes

how am i butchering (rhetorical question)? i know the basics of the language sure im not really good at grammar and writing (never have) but i'm entitled to altering it to my convenience. y should other people care how i convey my thoughts its not like i use super heavy text slang it's not that difficult to figure out what i'm talking about unless u r a foreigner bearly learning english.

so unless someone is considering me for employment / am on the clock at work i wont b told how i should write

just so u no i write normally for stuff outside of computers like hand written papers and such only for leisure computer stuff like this do i "butcher" this lang



Actually, The 'let it go' was directed at Orangeflute. Such was indicated by starting a sentence with Orange's handle followed by a comma.
You really seem to be taking the butchery comment personally and to heart. Please note, I'm not telling you how to write. Feel free to behave in a fashion that makes you appear illiterate. I'm on the clock too, I live in a free country too, I won't be told how to think about someone who apparently can't be bothered to exercise whatever competence they have in the language either when reading or writing.

I was going to let it drop, then I noticed something:

-Orangeflute is the OP.

-By your own admission ("just so u no i write normally for stuff outside of computers " ) you are an example of what Orangeflute was asking about but haven't answered his question. Well, not directly. I'd be inclined to infer laziness from the "My time is more important than my readers' " thesis that I am parsing out from your rants.

For reference:


orangeflute wrote:

Why do people feel a need to butcher our language when in the presence of electronic devices?


Anyhow yes, you're free to type in anyway you like, and I'm free to think badly of you for it. If one question on a forum addressed at a whole fleet of people who use the Queen's English even more poorly than you do has you THAT upset and irritated maybe you yourself have doubts about the probity of your position?

Feel free to post at least once more. I'll let you have the last word.


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LOL. This is going to be a grammar competition huh? xDD


Well, it is a common tactic, when one one feels accused, to make counter accusations.

The stupid thing is no one on the OP's side of the errr... 'debate' is demanding perfection. Actually, the OP wasn't demanding anything, the Op was merely asking 'why'?



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My dad makes up short hand words when he texts and gets mad when I don't understand what he is saying.
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w= when
t= the
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:



if u havent already noticed i'll spell it out I LET IT GO ALREADY ive stopped posting tell that to Orange who just posted something with my name in quotes

how am i butchering (rhetorical question)? i know the basics of the language sure im not really good at grammar and writing (never have) but i'm entitled to altering it to my convenience. y should other people care how i convey my thoughts its not like i use super heavy text slang it's not that difficult to figure out what i'm talking about unless u r a foreigner bearly learning english.

so unless someone is considering me for employment / am on the clock at work i wont b told how i should write

just so u no i write normally for stuff outside of computers like hand written papers and such only for leisure computer stuff like this do i "butcher" this lang



Actually, The 'let it go' was directed at Orangeflute. Such was indicated by starting a sentence with Orange's handle followed by a comma.
You really seem to be taking the butchery comment personally and to heart. Please note, I'm not telling you how to write. Feel free to behave in a fashion that makes you appear illiterate. I'm on the clock too, I live in a free country too, I won't be told how to think about someone who apparently can't be bothered to exercise whatever competence they have in the language either when reading or writing.

I was going to let it drop, then I noticed something:

-Orangeflute is the OP.

-By your own admission ("just so u no i write normally for stuff outside of computers " ) you are an example of what Orangeflute was asking about but haven't answered his question. Well, not directly. I'd be inclined to infer laziness from the "My time is more important than my readers' " thesis that I am parsing out from your rants.

For reference:


orangeflute wrote:

Why do people feel a need to butcher our language when in the presence of electronic devices?


Anyhow yes, you're free to type in anyway you like, and I'm free to think badly of you for it. If one question on a forum addressed at a whole fleet of people who use the Queen's English even more poorly than you do has you THAT upset and irritated maybe you yourself have doubts about the probity of your position?

Feel free to post at least once more. I'll let you have the last word.




i'll admit i misinterpreted the op to the effect of "butchering the english with text lang in all areas"

and with the late hour at the time of that post came a level of fatigue/ frustration after i thought i was done with this

ur right i cant take heavy duty text lang but the same is true for heavy duty usage of fancy words and phrases from " The Queen's English" instead of stuff everyone knows,but thats simply because i dont read the dictionary. so in essence i guess i support the middle ground of enough text lang to shorten typing time while not making it so u need Rosseta Stone (the language teaching software) to figure it out
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rosie00 wrote:


Baka-God wrote:


rosie00 wrote:

Eeeh I get over abbreviations pretty easily
The things I can't stand are;

"wen dey wryt lyk dis". THAT IS WRONG. TOO FAR MAN TOO FAR.

"Or WhEn ThEy WrItE LiKe ThIs." ITS JUST UGLY.

It's not like I tell people to not do it, I just sit behind my computer raging, it's just a pet hate of mine. I use correct grammar and puncuation in texts too, which i wish I didn't since it takes that much longer. It's just something that I'm picky about. 8DD
Maybe the fact I take English Literature and English Language at A Level has something to do with it D;



LIES NGUHIJOFVHJKGDISOAVrfgt



Read your text again and you'll see you've forgotten to put a i in capitals, and it's punctuation not puncuation
KLNJFDHISKL:MVHNJKFLKDSHJVd



OLOLOLOL. OH THE IRONY.
BTW DEWD. It should be "forgotten to put an i in capitals" ;D


NUUUUU

ALL LIES AND SLANDERR, I was just testing you =P

LNKFKLJHOMKPghrbdetjn


Oh anyway, I vote for Poo

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uhohimdead wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


And Confucius created a system to enhance and perpetuate the imperial system of China to the point where progress is actively hindered by the inherent mechanism of the state. I highly doubt I would take any of his advices seriously. If you are wondering, look right below your post, and, lo and behold, there's my rebuttal.


dude, let it go....

ive resigned myself from this thread because its fueling more and more nonesense and as much as its fun arguing i think we made it full circle i like text lang in mild doses simple as that now if u dont agree fine... if ur in the USA its a free country.


ur=your or you're
ive= i've
its= its or it's
dont=don't


And if America is a free country, laws would not exist at all in America. But, as it stands, there are laws, and what you use is not 'text language in mild dosage', rather, 'butchery and genocide of the language in heavy doses.' But, I agree, we should stop this charade before you make yourself into a much more foolish person than you already appear.
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uhohimdead wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


And if America is a free country, laws would not exist at all in America. But, as it stands, there are laws, and what you use is not 'text language in mild dosage', rather, 'butchery and genocide of the language in heavy doses.' But, I agree, we should stop this charade before you make yourself into a much more foolish person than you already appear.


butchery and genocide? then what do you call Engrish, signs/shirts written in Engrish , or any other attempts to speak english (in any language) properly yet it makes less sense than me?

still insulting me i see well keep it up i posted on the thread u made with my opinion u replied arguing which was fun for a time now its tiresome. IM NOT FOOLISH! nothing u can say can change that because YOU DO NOT KNOW ME! and dispite your "view" of me i no im intellegent maybe not on par with others for example Stephen Hawking i may not flaunt it everywhere but then again i dont need to. oh, and by the way ive stopped using excessively derogatory terms against u or could it that u just enjoy taking potshots at people with a different view points? I'm just trying to sever this never-ending cycle. so knock it off, i dont care if u have something to say just quit trying to put me down



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