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Posted 6/4/10 , edited 6/4/10

orangeflute wrote:


The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


I'm male now if u wouldn't mind let us end this on a level that doesn't belittle either party

I like text language, i find it more convenient while on the internet during someone's leisure time, that's my view, my opinion that I'm entitled to. Clearly others don't share this.... fine

If you Orange have something to add fine the only thing i ask is that u respect me as a human and quit insulting me,my gender, or my intelligence thank you
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english is a bastard language of its own. its the most difficult language for most to learn as a second, its got the most slang and the most...well easiest way for everyone to get it, most perversely spelled. most languages you can hear a word and figure out its meaning and spelling. we have so many words that sound alike, silent letters, and everything its ridiculous

so when online, most just dont want to use all the "proper" english and take the easy route. i dont blame them its easy and its the internet, everything is made to get down quick and to the point.
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uhohimdead wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


I'm male now if u wouldn't mind let us end this on a level that doesn't belittle either party

I like text language, i find it more convenient while on the internet during someone's leisure time, that's my view, my opinion that I'm entitled to. Clearly others don't share this.... fine

If you Orange have something to add fine the only thing i ask is that u respect me as a human and quit insulting me,my gender, or my intelligence thank you


And that is beside the point of the idiom. Of course, I probably shouldn't have expected you to understand it, searching it up online, just as using in proper English, is probably beyond your level of competence or intelligence.
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uhohimdead-

If you don't want to be called a git, then, please, for the love of God, stop acting like one.
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I couldn't care less, let them type however they want.
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Slang = A way to save time.

There really isn't a reason to be so upset about it.
The only thing that I find annoying (and only a little bit) is 13375P34K.
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the shortening of words/sentences is even worst in my local dialect especially in text messaging...
but im always careful when using shortcuts in English..i dont want to get used to it cause im using ESL
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I don't like it, especially since now, they have those keyboards on their cell phones. Why do they need shorthand?

What pisses me off the most, though, is the mistaken usage of "your". C'mon people... it's not that hard. Your and You're.

...And I don't think of "C'mon" or "Y'know" or things like that shorthand. They're ways to express how one talks.
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I don't claim to be a hardcore grammarian.

I'm honestly unsure of the exact use of the semicolon. On this thread I've been deliberately arcane with my text just because I'm contrary. Also I wanted to minimise the " U bad tock 2!" counter arguments.

That said. I can understand the need for a 'middle ground'. My middle ground just doesn't include really gratuitous grammar and spelling errors every other word. It's like a pebble in your shoe.

I'd throw away a novel written like that. If I were a teacher, I'd give a paper written like that a zero. And frankly, I have very little respect for anyone who posts like that and intends to be taken seriously. I don't mind the occasional contraction. I would never type 'I'd, or I've" etc. in a formal document. When speaking, I'm sure I've effectively started a few sentences with 'and'. It doesn't bother me to see that in a post either... every now and then.

What irritates me (my problem) and makes me dismissive and judgmental (your problem if you want to be heard by me and/or the many people who think as I do) is when, someone cannot string a coherent sentence together (let alone anything longer) without mispelling say ... 10% of the words therein?

reading that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me and I need a compelling reason to even try.
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Posted 6/5/10 , edited 6/5/10

orangeflute wrote:

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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.



Harp no more on that string woman! ;)

(ps: my favourite version was late 80's movie that reset the period from the war of the roses to an inter world war setting.)

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Our English language has so many rules that aren`t even followed ! ):<<
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well i don't really mind how one writes english,if only someone who has never ever heard of such shorter versions of some words...ish able to understand =D
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leexlee wrote:

Our English language has so many rules that aren`t even followed ! ):<<



Some of those rules are even conflicting/competing, yes. Most people take liberties with those rules in casual conversation. In informal letters and emails it's not unreasonable to be casual with those rules as well. Even fiction authors have more freedom than someone writing a report, legal document, or business plan.

When you're trying to get a point across it's best if your English is clear.

I'd argue that posts to forums are MORE formal not LESS formal than letters/emails to a friend.

In an forum post, you are speaking to total strangers. You're trying to inform them of something, or convince them of moral or philosophical stance. It behooves you, if you're not just some random person out to enjoy the roflcopters and actually want to be heard, to at least attempt to be coherent, understandable, and well... respectable.

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leexlee wrote:

Our English language has so many rules that aren`t even followed ! ):<<



Some of those rules are even conflicting/competing, yes. Most people take liberties with those rules in casual conversation. In informal letters and emails it's not unreasonable to be casual with those rules as well. Even fiction authors have more freedom than someone writing a report, legal document, or business plan.

When you're trying to get a point across it's best if your English is clear.

I'd argue that posts to forums are MORE formal not LESS formal than letters/emails to a friend.

In an forum post, you are speaking to total strangers. You're trying to inform them of something, or convince them of moral or philosophical stance. It behooves you, if you're not just some random person out to enjoy the roflcopters and actually want to be heard, to at least attempt to be coherent, understandable, and well... respectable.



all i can say is...i am speechless
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


leexlee wrote:

Our English language has so many rules that aren`t even followed ! ):<<



Some of those rules are even conflicting/competing, yes. Most people take liberties with those rules in casual conversation. In informal letters and emails it's not unreasonable to be casual with those rules as well. Even fiction authors have more freedom than someone writing a report, legal document, or business plan.

When you're trying to get a point across it's best if your English is clear.

I'd argue that posts to forums are MORE formal not LESS formal than letters/emails to a friend.

In an forum post, you are speaking to total strangers. You're trying to inform them of something, or convince them of moral or philosophical stance. It behooves you, if you're not just some random person out to enjoy the roflcopters and actually want to be heard, to at least attempt to be coherent, understandable, and well... respectable.



Yeah ... I read about a line of that , and I realized it was too long to finish. Another thing that should be mentioned about forum posts-- you should keep them short.
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