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Bankai! BLEACH coming to Crunchyroll!
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Dattebayo asks that Crunchyroll to please allow them to continue subtitling Bleach. I support Dattebayo 100% and will be deeply sickened if the Anime I've come to know and love gets butchered with "gosh" and "darn"s. Shinji, Please allow Dattebayo to still release Bleach!


You are misreading the post:

DB, and I personally, would like you to lend your support to this effort, but we'd like you to do a bit more. We'd like you to add in that you'd like us to work on it. Every week almost 200,000 of you download our Bleach releases, twice as many as Crunchyroll would like to see answer their petition. If you all came together and made known your desire to have DB continue to work on Bleach, it makes a compelling case. If nothing else, no one can say we didn't try. You can show your support by typing it in the "additional comments" field on the petition, and also by registering on their site and posting in the thread which I have linked to below.


They said this at the same time as they said that if CR got Bleach, they would drop it, and the decision was final. do.

So if its not fansubbing they were talking about, what were they talking about?

Simple: they would like to be hired to do the subtitling. They hoped that when DB supporters signed the petition, it would convince TV Tokyo and Studio Pierrot to hire them. Instead, TV Tokyo and Studio Pierrot decided to continue hiring VizMedia to do the subtitles.

Like they said in their press release, nobody can say they did not try to be part of the legal distribution.

And maybe it did change some minds in Tokyo, but production committees do things by unanimous decisions, which means that change sometimes takes extra time to get started.

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MimoriEisen wrote:

yes they clearly will drop it but, if CR allows then it will still be done by DB. I preffer to read the DB subs.


But its not CR's decision, the decision was made by TV Tokyo and Studio Pierrot. That's why DB tried to get DB supporters to get their desires onto the petition - to get through to the people who make the decision.
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CR has no control over who subs Bleach. Read the original post, please.


^_^ Lucky the original post says that - it would be even more asking CR to "let DB do the subtitles" if the original post did not make that perfectly clear.

I wonder if these people go to the person selling popcorn at the movie theater to ask that somebody else do the subtitles in a foreign movie?
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Posted 6/7/10

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XLTUXGabriel wrote:

JankYO Can you stop saying that crunchyroll subs are PG-13 only because DB add swears (Fu*k, dic* head and so on) doesn't mean that they actually say it.. if you have at least a little knowledge of Japanese language you would notice that.


Do you speak Japanese? If so I would love for you to prove your point. If not I don't really see that they add swears. and it's not like they go around the whole anime cursing off it's just when they do swear they will be subbed into something that is PG-13.

But I think JankYO is a bit to "enthusiastic" to say the least about supporting Dattebayo. All Dattebayo asks is that Shinji and Crunchyroll still allow them to release Bleach. It's not that big a deal. all those who are ok with PG-13 can watch crunchyroll all those who love Dattebayo can wait and watch theirs. It's not a bad solution to the upset this is causing with some people.



I can't really speak japanese but still i understand some. So lets say the last bleach episode that was subbed by DB at the first seconds they translated that Yammy say "piss off" while it where only get out or sth like that than shimata they translated crap when it could only be dang or shoot i could go on, but too lazy to look their earlyer episodes.
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And it's true that anime is in decline, there's no denying that. But why is it in decline?

I've looked over the many possibilities and this source right http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/18523/Anime+Decline.html here tells us of a lack of DVD sales, how many people in Japan have become generally bored with a lot of titles being made and therefore DVD sales have decreased.


Itai News has a report via Japan Probe about how the Anime industry is on the decline.

In the report a producer says that DVD's don't sell because users have become desensitized to the amount of bishojo and mecha titles which all look the same. With HD recordings at home becoming more popular and young folks with less expendable income, the only solution is to come up with quality titles.


This one http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=64958 tells us a number of reasons from different regions.


1. Japan
The number of the viewers of TV steeply decreased. 40% of the TV companies went into the red in September 2008. The online streaming is still too unreliable to replace the airing on TV.

2. US
The ratings of the TV anime programs went down. US TV companies are now reluctant to air Japanese animation due to its unpopularity and violent contents. Iwata described that the DVD sales in US are "miserably bad". The business model based on the TV airing collapsed because of the prevalence of fansubs.

3. Europe
The situation is relatively better than that in US but the opportunities to air anime are scarce because most of the European countries put emphasis on developing their own culture and business.

4. East & Middle East Asia
The anime market in Asian countries was expected to expand but the economic recession ruined it. Most of the anime-related projects announced by the investment authorities in the middle east suffered setbacks now.


What's interesting about that list is that what some users here have pointed out, like agila6, is that the US are a main provider to the anime market. Yet here it says that DVD sales are "miserably bad," not to mention the underlying reason is that they are reluctant to air it due to its unpopularity and violent content. You can say that anime is in decline, look at the graph, the numbers, but unless you clue us in to why, it's sadly irrelevant. And correct me if I'm wrong, that bit about Japan losing their television viewers, doesn't it look like it was partly caused by online streaming?

Finally in this last one http://anime.suite101.com/article.cfm/is_the_anime_market_collapsing the exchange goes back and forth, boiling it down to either piracy or bad marketing being the main culprit. Granted the article is from 2007, but the content is still viable. Interesting to note, in 2007 manga sales went up 10%.

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Finally bleach is here in crunchyroll!!!!!!
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Finally locking this rage train.

If you don't feel like reading this thread, here's a FAQ to answer the common questions.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-637563/crunchyroll-dattebayo-viz-and-you/

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