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Quick question. Is it possible to buy European Union level licences by crunchyroll ?
It's quite annoying that when I travel within EU I don't have access to the same contents depending on the state I'm at the moment. For me it is as much of an absurd of being able to watch Bleach in New York State and not being able to in New Jersey.
Why do business like if we are still in the 80's? Does anyone knows how this works? Does the copyright owners force separate EU licences?
For example I know live in France and it is impossible to see Naruto..unless it's dubbed in French at the TV. I pay for that channel and crunchyroll. When I lived in other EU state I also had crunchyroll premium as soon as you made Naruto available....restrictions applied.... Gintama..can't see it.
Don't you guys think it would be a wise move to pleed to the European Comission? I guess crunchyroll would gain much from it.

Tell me what you think.
Posted 6/7/10

forevertheuni wrote:

Quick question. Is it possible to buy European Union level licenses by crunchyroll ?
It's quite annoying that when I travel within EU I don't have access to the same contents depending on the state I'm at the moment. For me it is as much of an absurd of being able to watch Bleach in New York State and not being able to in New Jersey.
Why do business like if we are still in the 80's? Does anyone knows how this works? Does the copyright owners force separate EU licences?
For example I know live in France and it is impossible to see Naruto..unless it's dubbed in French at the TV. I pay for that channel and crunchyroll. When I lived in other EU state I also had crunchyroll premium as soon as you made Naruto available....restrictions applied.... Gintama..can't see it.
Don't you guys think it would be a wise move to plead to the European Commission? I guess crunchyroll would gain much from it.

Tell me what you think.


region restrictions are re-tarted in this day and age to be honest with you, all this does is warrant a cause for piracy and illegal torrents due to the fact that people can not see something that is exclusive to one country how freaking stupid. This is an old form of media restriction that needs to be abolished due to fact the technology is growing faster than the laws that are on the book. One thing I do not understand is why they started with dvd's, vhs tapes, casset tapes, cd's do not have these resection's, so why dvd's, games and blu-ray?? If you really want see some series that are region try importing the dvd's and change your settings on your computer/laptop.
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Posted 6/7/10
VHS had this restriction..it was called the TV norm PAL NTSC for example. DVD was the region setting....
I think that's ancient and wrong and indeed increases piracy. But in the case of EU:
We have a friggin government(comission) and council, we have an elected parliament, Some of the states share the same coin...So...why can't we share video licenses? I'm pretty sure that the EU comission would help a lot on this according to their past way of action.
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

One thing I do not understand is why they started with dvd's, vhs tapes, casset tapes, cd's do not have these resection's, so why dvd's, games and blu-ray?? .


There are two reasons.

1. PAL and NTSC are broadcast signals which use different resolutions and hertz so the TVs(Standard Definition) in those regions are incompatible without conversions.

2. Protectionism. Different countries use different prices because of purchasing power. So if a poorer country just put subs on a movie(this does happen) and there was no regions who would buy the movies in their own country if you could get a good deal (with dvds you could just turn the subs off)?






The EU is not its own country. It is a federation of country adopting common policies and an overarching governing body. It is within their power to become one region but the countries are not forced to stay part of the EU forever so if a country decided to leave or if they were kicked out they would lose every license they got in the EU. A business couldn't legally broadcast anything that they lost the license for. There is also a moderate chance the EU will fall apart in my lifetime due to the EU allowing economically weak countries to join.
Posted 6/7/10


1.) We have the technology in this day and age to fix this problem, there is no reason to use out of date technology when it's no longer good, hackers have found out a way why not legal people?

2.) That's a load of bull and you know it, most countries in this day and age are pretty much fully developed, there is no reason for japan, usa and the u.k. to have a different region the amount of money is not that different from these countries, even china is developing at a fast pace. One a side note I prefer anime with just subs I hate paying extra money for something that is not warranted for my purchase and there are anime series/R1 release with sub only titles. Nisa America is doing this and bandai is doing it for some series as well, I find it to be much better to be honest with you. Here is a solution, make all developed nations on one region and the 3rd world nations on another, this should help out to some degree. i know that you may disagree with me but hey this just me.
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Don't get me wrong I hate region coding. I was just saying why it exists. Reason 1 actually was justifiable at the time. Reason 2 is businesses protecting themselves. I only watch anime with subs and wish companies would stop dubbing them which causes increased prices. my example for a movie was actually referring to movies made in America and the third world country would apply subs with their country's language.
Posted 6/7/10

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Don't get me wrong I hate region coding. I was just saying why it exists. Reason 1 actually was justifiable at the time. Reason 2 is businesses protecting themselves. I only watch anime with subs and wish companies would stop dubbing them which causes increased prices. my example for a movie was actually referring to movies made in America and the third world country would apply subs with their country's language.


ahh i see what your saying, nice to know i am not alone on this.
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Posted 6/8/10
I agree that regional restrictions are absurd in this age.
Even more absurd if we think that also the paying members have them...
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Posted 6/8/10 , edited 6/8/10
*NULL* changed my mind. /lurk
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Posted 6/12/10
We get licenses per country and the European Union can't be counted as 1 country. If we could lump it together, we would since that would make things easier for everyone.
Posted 6/12/10
I know if I can't watch a show because of license restrictions that I would have been able to watch otherwise, why should I pay for a dvd of it when I could 'illegally' watch it online for free?
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Posted 6/18/10
i cant watch half of the movie in crunchyroll..why would you think people in my country will buy premium when we CANT SEE HAVE the drama listed here!!!
btw im from Malaysia
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Posted 6/21/10

ugaikit82 wrote:

i cant watch half of the movie in crunchyroll..why would you think people in my country will buy premium when we CANT SEE HAVE the drama listed here!!!
btw im from Malaysia


We don't expect nor want people outside of North and South America to purchase Drama Membership since most of our Drama series are only available in the aforementioned regions. I believe our system even prevents people from purchasing Drama Membership if they are not in North or South America.
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Posted 7/8/10
Is there a special reason why almost no recent show can be streamed to Germany? We have a large fanbase here that almost completely lives from fansubs because not many series are licensed here anymore and only a small part can be streamed. Without the stream rippers I wouldn't be able to see a lot of recent shows because they are not fansubbed anymore. By the way, I buy a lot of shows on DVDs/BDs (e.g. Hanamaru Kindergarten) and merchandise , so I'm not saying that I want the stuff for free. I just want to have a legal way to get subtitled shows.

Is the German license too expensive or are there other reasons why almost nothing gets available here? Are there license owners that prevent it? I really want to understand the reason.
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Posted 7/8/10
As long as they don't take my Bleach and Naruto away from me i'll be fine........ *rocks back and forth slowly in a corner*
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