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Why do Christians reject Muhammad's prophethood?
Why do Muslims reject Jesus' resurrection?

I haven't read the whole Quran ( apparently, I can't buy one in a bookstore) but talking to a lot of muslims in my country and reading books about Islam, they are the same in the basic principle of "Love God" and " Love your neighbors"

but I can't understand why they are still different.

Was it because of the two guys mentioned?
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I am no expert on this issue but both Jews and Muslims reject Jesus as a son of God or God for that matter or any human who claimed to be God. I am not sure about Jesus resurrection though.

I think this thread is a very very very bad idea and may need to be closed down if things get too heated.
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Why should this be closed? Heated discussions are the best!

Christians reject Muhammad because he says that Jesus was just a prophet of God, not his begotten son or God in the flesh. They also reject him because he says that Jesus did not die on the cross and therefore was not resurrected afterward. These two concepts are the very backbone of the Christian religion.
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First off the Quran recognizes Jesus and does not reject his teaching. We just dont believe Jesus is the son of God that is all. I agree with Northbound religious threads even though you have no intention of have it becoming a flame war, doesnt usually stay friendly afterwhile. Hopefully I can be proved wrong.

Some similarities between Islam and Christianity


How Muhammad treat Christians?
Posted 6/10/10
The simple answer would be that the two religions just don't like competition, because each only wanted themselves to be the right one favored by their one true God. While their history of family feud was only a result from it.

The sociological explanation is rather in-depth as always, I'll have to get back on that. When religious texts tend to be unrealistically exaggerated glorification of historical events. But that's what happens when people were on their own ethnocentric bandwagon.
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The two religions are separated by various ethnic characteristics and the heroes they knew. Both are one and the same, since God is supreme over all followers of Christianity and Islam. A long-standing disagreement over who is the son of God shows that perhaps there is no son of God, or even God for that matter. People will never fully agree on anything, so the land will be reddened with blood for many thousands of years more.
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drizza wrote:

First off the Quran recognizes Jesus and does not reject his teaching. We just dont believe Jesus is the son of God that is all. I agree with Northbound religious threads even though you have no intention of have it becoming a flame war, doesnt usually stay friendly afterwhile. Hopefully I can be proved wrong.

Some similarities between Islam and Christianity


How Muhammad treat Christians?


If that is the case, there is a sect in Christianity almost similar to Islam. They are the Calvinist. They believe in Predestination and total depravity. I'm a Arminianism who believes the other way around.

I don't know why Islam thinks we are not submitting to the will of God though....

Christians have their own shortcomings but it doesn't mean we life the way of sin.

About the deity of Jesus, well, i don't believe in the "Oneness teachings" where God and Jesus are one in substance or Jesus is the incarnate of God. It is evident in the New Testament that God and Jesus are different. It's just a myth adopted from pagan beliefs; however, I have to say that Jesus is a divine being. If he is a human, he is the highest form of human being.

about the resurrection, I have a link here for some proof. It will also disprove claims that Jesus didn't die at all. Click [this --> http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html

I am reading some text about Muhammad. There are a lot of bad things told about him but I will not use it to discredit him as Jesus received the same.

By the way, Saul or Paul is the messenger to the Gentiles. You were right to say that Jesus was sent for the Jews. It is evident also in Matthew 15: 21-28; however, when he was to ascend to heaven, he commissioned his disciples to make disciples in all nation (Matthew 28:16-20)

Edit: Let me add this also, you mentioned about intermarriages in Islam and Christian. Dude, in our country, that will start a family feud. Islam hates that practice here. A lot of people died with that practice. That is why even if i like this muslim girl, I have to let go of my feelings to protect my family from carnage or something
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Northboundsnow wrote:

I am no expert on this issue but both Jews and Muslims reject Jesus as a son of God or God for that matter or any human who claimed to be God. I am not sure about Jesus resurrection though.

I think this thread is a very very very bad idea and may need to be closed down if things get too heated.


thank you for your concern but i'm kinda aware that trolls are attracted to threads like this.

and relax. Don't worry. Christians and Islams who would be posting here knows how to behave especially in topics like this. After all, we represent the peace of God with us.
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The two religions are separated by various ethnic characteristics and the heroes they knew. Both are one and the same, since God is supreme over all followers of Christianity and Islam. A long-standing disagreement over who is the son of God shows that perhaps there is no son of God, or even God for that matter. People will never fully agree on anything, so the land will be reddened with blood for many thousands of years more.


nah. we fully agree that there is one true God.

why would disagree about the existence of God? Neither of Christians and Islam are atheist
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Why should this be closed? Heated discussions are the best!

Christians reject Muhammad because he says that Jesus was just a prophet of God, not his begotten son or God in the flesh. They also reject him because he says that Jesus did not die on the cross and therefore was not resurrected afterward. These two concepts are the very backbone of the Christian religion.


then this thread is not for you. heated discussions are not encourage here. ^_^

anyway, your first statement about the deity of Jesus is also an issue inside the Christians. There is a Oneness doctrine and the Trinity doctrine. I don't know where did those Oneness people saw a biblical text that Jesus is God incarnate. It is all over the New Testament that God and Jesus are different. About Jesus being a god or a demi-God. i don't know about that. People just used their logic to conclude that Jesus is a god or at least a demi-god.

about the issue of resurrection, secular groups list of discoveries are found here----> http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html
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Northboundsnow wrote:

I am no expert on this issue but both Jews and Muslims reject Jesus as a son of God or God for that matter or any human who claimed to be God. I am not sure about Jesus resurrection though.

I think this thread is a very very very bad idea and may need to be closed down if things get too heated.


thank you for your concern but i'm kinda aware that trolls are attracted to threads like this.

and relax. Don't worry. Christians and Islams who would be posting here knows how to behave especially in topics like this. After all, we represent the peace of God with us.
Like how you violated the forum rule by you pretending to be a mod when you aren't one to begin with? Or you just kinda aware that you can't exclude anyone to debate with "just cause", when you don't own this forum.

And you dare to speak for both religious groups while you contradict yourself with your hypocrisy? You know nothing about the nature of democratic debate!


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Aztecnology wrote:

The two religions are separated by various ethnic characteristics and the heroes they knew. Both are one and the same, since God is supreme over all followers of Christianity and Islam. A long-standing disagreement over who is the son of God shows that perhaps there is no son of God, or even God for that matter. People will never fully agree on anything, so the land will be reddened with blood for many thousands of years more.


nah. we fully agree that there is one true God.

why would disagree about the existence of God? Neither of Christians and Islam are atheist
Get it through your egocentric head that he wasn't addressing to you, when that's his justification about how God doesn't exist.

And when history was any indication of what Christianity and Islam together could accomplish, it would be a tragedy for humanity to fall victim once again by the same evil.
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One I do not care for religion but after the fall Roman empire any B.S artist could cal themselves a prophet and the stupid will follow. if it means no tax's Kill to gain not to hard to understand, why Islam became a fast growing so called religion
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As a Christian I'll try and answer this. Christians reject Muhammad's claim to being a prophet because of two main reasons.
1. Muhammad preformed no miracles and spoke a message that was contrary and contradictory to what God has laid down before.
2. The Bible clearly tells us to test the spirits of teachers to see if they are decievers or of God. A very general guidline is given as well 1Jo 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1Jo 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 1Jo 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. Muhammad's message denied that Jesus was the Son of God, that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh (but rather was just a man and not the Messiah), and this according to the Bible Muhammad can not be a prophet filled with God's spirit.
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It's nice to see that someone wrote a book. As an ex-atheist should I write one about how the philosophy has holes and cannot be true? This isn't the place for flame baiting
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