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The end of manga hosting sites
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most of the manga i read online i go out and buy if i like it and they sell it where i live. but thats only two stores so i usually have to buy them online. without the manga sites I'll probably stop buying manga because i won't know if it's any good.
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animan92 wrote:

it will definitely hurt the industry because if people cant read them online since they cant read them anywhere else then they wont be able to then really get into it and buy the actual volumes, atleast thats what i do, i read pretty face online and then bought the whole series, this move is just gonna diminish the amount of people that are interested in manga and then buys them after reading them online. RETARDED move >_<


Letting people read material that they have to rights to is not normal. Go to your local libarry and ask for manga, or go to a bookstore, or to a legal website. (Dorohedoro is awesome, thank you www.sigikki.com)

Also this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Now people will be forced to buy something, instead of reading a dirty-thief website that is getting money from Google-adds, when it did zero work. If you wish to know a good series to get into, then ask people(me), then buy it or borrow it, and don't relay on a misrepresented product.
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Letting people read material that they have to rights to is not normal. Go to your local libarry and ask for manga, or go to a bookstore, or to a legal website. (Dorohedoro is awesome, thank you www.sigikki.com)

Also this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Now people will be forced to buy something, instead of reading a dirty-thief website that is getting money from Google-adds, when it did zero work. If you wish to know a good series to get into, then ask people(me), then buy it or borrow it, and don't relay on a misrepresented product.
the licensing of some mangas take way to long and are to far back for most people though so it annoys to many people. and besides alot of manga can only be read online since they arent coming out to buy outside of japan or may never come out to buy so online is the only way to read them.
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Posted 6/14/10
Manga and comics have been around a lot longer then the internet. And manga/comics have been around longer then these hosting sites.And so has anime. Heck even the great Osamu Tezuka (Creator of Astro Boy) sold his manga at train stations. So to say that shutting these websites down will hurt the industry is both idiotic and an insult.
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Posted 6/14/10

St0rmi wrote:

Are you sure that Animea isn't offering Manga anymore? It still works fine for me.


yea today i saw animeA like before again but theres a notice in every manga you want to read saying that
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Posted 6/14/10 , edited 6/14/10
A bad thing is that people who have already been reading on these sites will have to wait for the chapters they've already read to be translated in english. I only read a couple online mangas, and that is only because I can't find them in my area. I'm so far into them, it'll take years for American publishers to catch up. However, all the other manga I read is in volumes.

A huge complaint here is that people are scanlating titles that are already in english, and continuing to scanlate even after the volumes are available. Sometimes they are directly scanlating from the english-translated volumes. If you want to read a series that has already been translated, but don't want to buy it, just go to a Barnes and Noble near you. Sit next to the shelves and read. They won't kick you out. If you like it enough you can buy it. Or just go to a library. There are a lot of awesome titles already completed and translated. Go find them.

edit: By the way, whenever I go on AnimeA or Mangafox, it gives me a virus. So be careful what you click.
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Posted 6/14/10

ZeroDemio wrote:


cherryblossom016 wrote:

It will definitely hurt the industry... I mean the scanners worked so hard on compiling those manga titles and what happens to them??? Oh dear..what will happen to the titles that are rare and hard to find?and the old ones?? What rot and be forgotten by the industry and fans?? There may be a way to satisfy both ends..


The enemy is not Scan Groups, it's the hosting sites

And now that scan views go down (small or large) and sales go up, the US publishers will be able to localizes more stuff and in more countries.


If they are able localize more manga like you say and if a shop opens up near my area. Then in that case, I'll quit reading from sites and go buy copies of my own.
Posted 6/14/10

Parsifal wrote:

AllI can say is good riddance it's the something for nothing mentality that's the Manga industry to quote from Brian Hanson of the hay Answer man Column over at ANN perhaps those who read scanalations will, NO LONGER ACT LIKE SPOILED, IMPETUOUS CHILDREN!


right just like the whole piracy does not equal sale b.s. . if not for certain scanalations or fan-subs I would have never bought the dvd's or manga in the 1st place. I like to use my money wisely when buying stuff. On a side note people from ANN can blow me because of all the high and mighty morality and white knights.
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The industry has got to find a formula that works. I'm not gonna buy a serial hard copy; it's a waste of trees and energy, it's too damn expensive, and it's too dated given that e-readers, ipads, ipeds, and other e-filth make way more sense. I'll buy a hard copy if it is a beautifully designed work of art (graphic novel), but not weekly shonen. If book publishers can jump on the paperless bandwagon, why can't manga? Their audience is born in a digital world, so why are they treating their audience like dogs? I'd love to subscribe to an e-manga (just as I do with Crunchyroll) to support the industry, but it seems the industry is deaf to my voice. So I torrented Datebayo, until Crunchyroll came up with a solution that benefited the industry ($60/year is decent; way cheaper than cable), and I'll continue to read scanlations, because Viz is not the solution to what I want; electronic manga. I stopped buying newspapers cause I don't want to keep bundling stacks of worn paper, even if it is recycled, and I stopped buying Inuyasha (half-way through), when my stack of pulp became ridiculous.

MANGA INDUSTRY, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE E-COFFEE! YOU'LL FOLLOW THE NEWSPAPER INDUSTRY INTO THE GRAVE IF YOU DON'T REVOLUTIONIZE!
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Dude, I get my manga from mangafox and other websites. If they stop the flow now, how will I get my fix?
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Posted 6/14/10

el_nath wrote:

The industry has got to find a formula that works. I'm not gonna buy a serial hard copy; it's a waste of trees and energy, it's too damn expensive, and it's too dated given that e-readers, ipads, ipeds, and other e-filth make way more sense. I'll buy a hard copy if it is a beautifully designed work of art (graphic novel), but not weekly shonen. If book publishers can jump on the paperless bandwagon, why can't manga? Their audience is born in a digital world, so why are they treating their audience like dogs? I'd love to subscribe to an e-manga (just as I do with Crunchyroll) to support the industry, but it seems the industry is deaf to my voice. So I torrented Datebayo, until Crunchyroll came up with a solution that benefited the industry ($60/year is decent; way cheaper than cable), and I'll continue to read scanlations, because Viz is not the solution to what I want; electronic manga. I stopped buying newspapers cause I don't want to keep bundling stacks of worn paper, even if it is recycled, and I stopped buying Inuyasha (half-way through), when my stack of pulp became ridiculous.

MANGA INDUSTRY, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE E-COFFEE! YOU'LL FOLLOW THE NEWSPAPER INDUSTRY INTO THE GRAVE IF YOU DON'T REVOLUTIONIZE!


I also think that they need to change their policies. specially that costumers demand for e-manga in the same day that it was published in japan.A Worldwide manga easy to access and with same quality that a hardcopy. I have high hope for Open Manga. Where creators can publish their work and costumer can access and pay for quality manga (online) like crunchyroll we need it and it is growing because it works fine for everybody (except for zone restrictions :'( )
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Thanks for posting that screen shot, Riceball! I did check the site out again today and got the same result. So it looks like they are trying to only post unlicensed manga now. I wonder if enough of their fans will actually follow what they ask and click the appropriate choice when they go to read the manga.

I'm torn on where I stand with this since like El-nath, I have a personal campaign to reduce paper in my life. It takes up space, wastes resources, and frankly isn't needed in such a budding, digital era.

I got into manga since it was easily available on host sites. I don't think I would have invested any money into purchasing manga if I hadn't had free access to it at my fingertips. Next month the Vampire Knight DVDs finally come out. While I have watched them twice through online, I would not be so excited to purchase the real DVDs if I hadn't fallen in love with Kaname, Zero, Yuuki through the scanlated manga (thank you Sagakure!!), fanfiction, and the illegally posted anime episodes.

A few of the publishers websites have started to offer online previews for their titles. It's a start. But it's also frustrating to need to pay for these incomplete services on so many different sites. Open manga, as mentioned by others above, seems like a great idea and I can't wait to see where it goes. Sigikki also has some potential but it does seem to have a dramatic genre in place. I'd be great if Chrunchyroll got on the manga bandwagon but considering their self-censoring, that would leave yaoi, yuri, and mature mangas out in the cold. I guess they are the bloody front line of this new war. *How I'll miss you, Hoshi no Yakata*

Anyway, if the end result is the publishes bully out scanlators and even the hosting sites that make no advertising profits or allow licensed works, I'll probably let my manga and anime hobby fall to the wayside. It's been a great hobby and I've spent a lot of time falling love with great series, but like all bad relationships, once it becomes too much work for what it's worth, it gets tossed just like all those loser ex-boyfriends.

I hope I can keep this boy as long as possible but only time will tell!
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Posted 6/14/10

Parsifal wrote:

AllI can say is good riddance it's the something for nothing mentality that's the Manga industry to quote from Brian Hanson of the hay Answer man Column over at ANN perhaps those who read scanalations will, NO LONGER ACT LIKE SPOILED, IMPETUOUS CHILDREN!


I buy manga now because I read scanalations and found titles I liked. If they were not there I would never have just gone out and bought manga.
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Heh. Copyright is such an iffy issue. The same thing happens with music nowadays, and movies, too. In the most objective view, what the publishers are doing is pretty justified. It won't hurt or help their sales, though. That's my hypothesis.
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saw this yesterday on animea.. so sad DD: i understand that by reading online we arent helping the mangakas and publishing companies at all but i honestly dont have the money to buy manga D:
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