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The end of manga hosting sites
Posted 6/16/10 , edited 7/22/10

tycho0042 wrote:

well, it's gonna suck if this goes through. I just know that some of the manga I read I'd never be able to find in english if they shut down sites that host translated manga. Maybe they'll come up with a compromise...


i don't think it's going to happen, I gave up on them in that department so I will just stick to importing my manga like kodomo no jikan or other obscure series for my own entertainment since I have taught myself to read Japanese finally. Yest I am editing this and I have thought about uploading/scanning and changed my mind for my own reasons.
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Posted 6/17/10
It sucks that their gonna get shut down. I'll be fine with it as long as a site comes along where I can still read them. I don't mind paying. I like supporting the industry.
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Posted 6/17/10

bakabeener wrote:

BUT SHAME ON THE PUBLISHERS!

We all know that this is a business and people need to make their wages, but publishers can, will and are GREEDY.


Manga was created for profit, so there is no reason why not to expand. If they want to make changes to their material, let them. They make manga, we like it and they make money, there was never a plan to become a charity.
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Posted 7/22/10
That is a really stupid move...not only have they isolated the manga fans already out there...they've also shut out potential future fans. This is going to do much more harm than good
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Posted 7/22/10 , edited 7/22/10
I saw the message on the site, I was so depressed. :/

The translations are always so slow and are never as good. I mean they translate the most simple sentences into bullcrap no one onderstands. And they leave out important stuff. And they translate the names oddly. Like it's so *weird*. Del Ray's OK, and Tokyopop/Viz like meh but the scantalations are so much better imo. :/

I'm not buying any manga over here anyway. I'll just drop them all. Because you can /not/ expect me to shell out $10 a volume for shit I'm reading once and once only.

EDIT: Nevermind. I gave it some actual thought after reading a thread, and it's not really fair to the publishers to buy these costly licenses and then not have us buy any. So I'll go and buy my manga legit, but I'll lay off manga until the publishers catch up in years.
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Posted 7/22/10
Just block american users and let the rest of us enjoy it
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Posted 7/22/10
one manga.com just announced that most of the manga will be cleaned out by early next week.
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Posted 7/22/10
man, i hope CR would work with manga publishers so they can host their mangas like how they worked with anime publishers!!!!
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Posted 7/22/10
So now HOW is one going to find new manga to buy? It's bad enough the low selection already translated- there are many awesome mangas untranslated. Now even less selection- many of those are not even licensed. So how will they know what to license? Not to mention the censorship, the 2 year wait for 100 page volumes to come out etc. I'll keep doing what I already do- buying the one or two I am obsessed with, dl'ing the unavailable stuff from the scanlation groups directly, ignoring most of the rest because most is not worth the expense of buying or the hassle of dl'ing. Funny how they often don't license the most awesome stuff. I'd go to Forbidden Planet or Kinokuniya and buy every manga I read if they'd even bother licensing cool stuff, and get stuff out on time (like, within 30 days after Japanese release)!
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Posted 7/22/10
Also, I'd love to see a way to purchase where I knew at least some of my money is going to the mangaka. once licensed, who knows? It's a bit like music- my dad was a musician, put out a record with a record company and never saw a dime. I like it when bands sell their own stuff because I know I'm paying them directly, for the dl and it's usually cheaper too. I'd like a similar scheme with manga. Hopefully some of these untranslated/unpublished mangakas have licensing rights and this new OpenManga will be able to get some of that out there...
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Posted 7/22/10
Without this host site I wouldn't even know half of these mangas that come out. And some people aren't going to buy manga they never heard of, that is host sites are important. They are going to see another decrease in America Anime/Manga profits.
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Posted 7/22/10 , edited 7/22/10
The real thing that irritates me is how blind these publishers are to the possibilities outside of the legal system. If they would offer something similar in a pay to read format(one that wasn't severely lacking and poorly ran) of the works they are working so hard to protect, they could make an immense profit and keep a majority of their English reading fans happy. They are bound to keep some people upset because they have to pay now, but by providing a HQ alternative to the exact same thing, they would create a win/win.

I sense this would be the next plausible step anyway, at least in my opinion, but finding an individual(or group of) to undertake such negotiations and set it up to the liking of all parties would be a monumental task.
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Manga should be available online for a flat fee, just like the anime and drama's that are posted here on CR, or through Apple, manga on the iPad would be pretty cool. The internet is a convenient way for manga, especially smaller more obscure titles. It also seems to be the only source for people to enjoy manga online from around the world, since it seems the majority of titles aren't available in their countries. I thing we all recognize that artist have a right to be compensated for them work, no question and have been a regular subscriber to Shonen Jump for years now. Companies have to recognize that there is often no legitimate outlet for people to interact with the products they offer. For example, if I hear a song I like, say from a Japanese artist and I would like to download it, I immediately go to itunes to see if its available. Where things get complicated is when I discover that the song I would like to purchase is either not available for purchase or is not available in my territory, which is quite possible the most frustrating aspect of trying to acquire anything online. Somethings, old-time titles can fall by the wayside because they may not be much of a demand for them. However, that doesn't mean that no one would be interested them or they have no value. I really don't understand why there can't be a universal library system online for manga, a site were that is globally accessible and that allows people from around the world to interact. Maybe people should try to find away to articulate to the manga companies what we want, maybe we should all cancel our subscriptions to Shonen Jump to get their attention.
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Posted 7/22/10

lorddio1 wrote:

Manga should be available online for a flat fee, just like the anime and drama's that are posted here on CR, or through Apple, manga on the iPad would be pretty cool. The internet is a convenient way for manga, especially smaller more obscure titles. It also seems to be the only source for people to enjoy manga online from around the world, since it seems the majority of titles aren't available in their countries. I thing we all recognize that artist have a right to be compensated for them work, no question and have been a regular subscriber to Shonen Jump for years now. Companies have to recognize that there is often no legitimate outlet for people to interact with the products they offer. For example, if I hear a song I like, say from a Japanese artist and I would like to download it, I immediately go to itunes to see if its available. Where things get complicated is when I discover that the song I would like to purchase is either not available for purchase or is not available in my territory, which is quite possible the most frustrating aspect of trying to acquire anything online. Somethings, old-time titles can fall by the wayside because they may not be much of a demand for them. However, that doesn't mean that no one would be interested them or they have no value. I really don't understand why there can't be a universal library system online for manga, a site were that is globally accessible and that allows people from around the world to interact. Maybe people should try to find away to articulate to the manga companies what we want, maybe we should all cancel our subscriptions to Shonen Jump to get their attention.


The news is pretty sad to hear, especially because no longer will people be able to test series out for free. I agree with what you said about manga sites converting to a system like Crunchyroll. The mangakas would still get paid, and you would probably still be able to read with minimal fees. I don't know if people have already tried, but we definitely need to get these kind of ideas out to the mangakas, manga sites, and manga site protesters.
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Posted 7/22/10
What I believe the real problem is is you guys. You believe the anime/manga industry is completely built around your logic of 'seeing/reading something free online and going out and buying it later on." I mean how many people in this topic tell us they would have never bought it if they never saw it online first? I mean as far as I know you still haven't bought anything you've seen online and there are people who never watch anime or read manga online and they go out and buy it. The manga industry will not fall apart because these illegal hosting sites are being taken down.

Seriously get over yourselves. You can justify the word "PIRACY' all you want, but it still spells 'WRONG' at the end of the day.
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