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I want to touch this topic for couple of reasons, but first tings first.

Piracy is bad no matter what it is pirating PC-Games, movies, music, and so on. It makes companies that produce this so desired content earn less money for their work. and from their perspective it's really really bad. If you think about it Death is also really bad for them. Especially death of a creator that was letting companies suck on their nipples of profit!...

Sorry I got sidetracked for a moment there... anyway bottom line is "piracy is bad for buisness". Actually it's bad only for Business that uses old and crippled ideas about product and payment for this product. Digital world is not ruled by the same laws as the material world. When you make something in real world you want this "something" to reach to as wide range of customers as possible every one of them will have to buy your product if they want it. in digital world everything can be cloned and copied. that is very nature of digital world. I don't say that piracy is good. piracy is still bad thing not only for corporations but also for legit customers. but if I get same content for free I as a customer will always chose the free option not only that but if I see that PIRATED COPYS WORK BETTER THEN LEGIT PRODUCTS I will be glad and use pirates copyes as the source of high quality and low cost products.

I HATE DRM's, I DESPISE regional locks, I want to see this part of industry BURN AND SCREAM IN HELL because this is what forces me to turn towards Piracy.

I am a Bleach fan. I love that anime to death (no pun intended) up to now I could only watch in thanks to Dattebayo. I knew I was pirating this anime but I could not watch it in Poland in original sound and with subtitles on TV. So when I Read that Crunchy roll got rights to air it on Internets I was trilled I will finally be able to support my beloved anime and make up for all the episodes I torrented from Dattebayo. So I registered here as fast as I could got myself premium membership AND WHAT DO I GET? nothing I can't watch it because I cant watch it in my region... this just blew my mind. I realize that Crunchyroll is not rotten link in this corporate chain. For me its the shiniest and most pure company out there I BLAME CORPORATIONS HIGH ABOVE that don't see that customers want to pay for the product and they say "no. you live in Europe we don't like you". THAT IS DISCRIMINATION and I want to see them sued for that! I want them burn! and I want them hurt.
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Posted 7/21/10
There's nothing much we anime lovers can do, right?
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Posted 7/21/10
Isn't it sad? Everything in this world revolves around money, so unless we have the purchasing power to do so, there is nothing we can do about it.
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Posted 7/21/10 , edited 7/21/10

Maou068 wrote:

Isn't it sad? Everything in this world revolves around money, so unless we have the purchasing power to do so, there is nothing we can do about it.


Words of wisdom.

You shouldn't really say how pirating is extremely bad, if you've been doing it yourself.

Ironically, regional-locks are to prevent companies from taking greater damage from piracy, seeing how copying a CD / DVD is cheap and easy. It is also to enforce the publishing and distributing agreement where the company publishes a series from one region to another - this keeps the pressure off for the companies, especially the more smaller and newer ones.

So what I'm saying is, you're over-thinking and reacting against all this matter.

Finally FYI, Shinji himself has mentioned about this 2 years ago:


shinji wroteFor those of you who aren't in the USA or Canada, sorry it's still not available to you guys =*( As you may or may not know, licensing is realllly really complicated and it's a bit difficult to get permission to show certain videos in certain countries. It's no ones fault, it just takes time to sort out...I'll try to get more stuff for you, I promise! And I'll also try to make these availability notes more clear in the future! :blush:

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Posted 7/21/10 , edited 7/21/10

HirakuNoShadow wrote:



Words of wisdom.

You shouldn't really say how pirating is extremely bad, if you've been doing it yourself.

Ironically, regional-locks are to prevent companies from taking greater damage from piracy, seeing how copying a CD / DVD is cheap and easy. It is also to enforce the publishing and distributing agreement where the company publishes a series from one region to another - this keeps the pressure off for the companies, especially the more smaller and newer ones.

So what I'm saying is, you're over-thinking and reacting against all this matter.

Finally FYI, Shinji himself has mentioned about this 2 years ago:


shinji wroteFor those of you who aren't in the USA or Canada, sorry it's still not available to you guys =*( As you may or may not know, licensing is realllly really complicated and it's a bit difficult to get permission to show certain videos in certain countries. It's no ones fault, it just takes time to sort out...I'll try to get more stuff for you, I promise! And I'll also try to make these availability notes more clear in the future! :blush:



Yes, I know the effects of piracy and the facts about licensing (Brennan himself used wrote an article about it in the CR wiki and DomFortress made a thread about regional blocks ages ago) but all I'm trying to say is that you need money in order to put things in motion be it a private person or a corporate entity.

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obviously the mods at crunchyroll were NOT thinking and ive been forced to look elsewhere for my anime. they did a worse job than dattebayo and i think that the fvckers should send the Bleach series back to them with a BIG note of apology for their fvckup I don't give 2 sh1ts about the freaking infringements and i refuse to pay for a membership that i consider a waste of money
NO i DON'T WANT A PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP NEVER DID NEVER WILL!
WASTE OF MONEY!!!!!!
OH and add onto all that the spyware and adware sh1t they also sneak onto your system and you have a damn good reason i'm DAMN fussy! . Crunchyroll is a pain in the ass to work with and id rather see them go down in flames and Dattebayo take up the banner again.
you guys ere at crunchy never could get things right.
oh and did you think maybe the Viewers in countries who arent able to see their chosen favorite otherwise would actually go so far as to seek it out on the net. i do stuff like that ll the time and don't give two sh1ts. if a person in a cou ntry where its not supposed to be available ha watched tye episodes from day 1 .. een if there in a media retsricted country it goes to prove they'lll look elsewhere.

to the poor bastard who BOUGHT into crunchyroll only to find out after that they couldn't get their chosen anime:

THIS is where i say sucks to be you. I'm working on finding another source thats NOT from here. this site cheats and gives false promises not to mention the advertiidid you know that since crunchyroll took over legality for Bleach that its been much harder to find my episodes for watching. i refuse outrigjht to use crunchysubs because well.. THEY SUCK!
And i'm looking for REGION FREE. and actually finding it too. i'd let said poor user know ..but the guys here at crunchy would then find out and whine at them to shut it down too. so . FVCK 'em
ever since crunchyroll WHINED about the rights they have to bleach legally . ive avoided the damn series unless it does NOT say crunchysubs.
the only thing this membership is for is to basically tell the entire crunchy community about how freaking PISSED i am about te fact crunchy STOLE the anime i too was watching diligently on Dattebayo

Thanks a lot for nothing but a hugeass fvckup shin . youre stealing peoples money and giving out sh1t
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Posted 7/21/10
Things happen for a reason. Deal with it.
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superluccix wrote:

Things happen for a reason. Deal with it.


piss off asswipe nobody asked you or your wadded ..oh ARE those braincells? oh crap they are, omg what happened they're. ...EWWW guess superluccix has the right to be here hes got slime for brains.
and I personally dont give two sh1ts like i said. i want the crunchy community to be aware of how much theyre hated on certain fronts. anyone with praises for them should fit right in with you asshole seeing as they've also got goo for brains.


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Posted 7/21/10 , edited 7/21/10
I did sound incredibly harsh. I really dont know why. If I was in your shoes I guess I would be mad too. I apologize. And I deserved that comment

Edit: Though I do disagree on CR being a bad site. Its a wonderful site in my opinion
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PISSEDOFFALPHA wrote:

piss off asswipe nobody asked you or your wadded ..oh ARE those braincells? oh crap they are, omg what happened they're. ...EWWW guess superluccix has the right to be here hes got slime for brains.
and I personally dont give two sh1ts like i said. i want the crunchy community to be aware of how much theyre hated on certain fronts. anyone with praises for them should fit right in with you asshole seeing as they've also got goo for brains.


You need a chill pill and a English crash course.

If you seriously don't give a shit, your previous post wouldn't be full of constant whining. People who do not read all the information regarding if its available in their region and goes buy the membership shouldn't blame CR. They should blame their country.

So what if Dattebayo can't sub Bleach anymore, we LIVE in a digital era. There will always be other fansubbers that'll take on the mantle if there are enough demand for it. So quit your bitching .
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Posted 7/21/10 , edited 7/21/10

ranmachua wrote:

There's nothing much we anime lovers can do, right?


well you can do both i know that's kinda stupid but hear me out I still pirate every now and then to see if a series is warranting of a purchase, They do cost a lot money after all "expect for those series I can get in online bargain bins". I will also be honest here in this day and age there is no reason what soever for there to be "region blocking" that is just a big middle finger to other countries telling them sorry you can not watch this material because of WHERE YOU LIVE, which is bull shit. Here is a pic of my collection to show that I am not just a huge pirate lol xP
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CR never stopped dattebayo from subbing Naruto OR Bleach. Dattebayo supports legal alternatives. If you supposedly support Dattebayo then you should also be supporting to a certain extent; legal alternatives. Besides you do not even speak Japanese and require subs. Seriously, what grounds do you have to say that crunchysubs suck? I am no supporter of crunchysubs mind you, but I am a supporter of legal alternatives. Manga/Anime artists make very little in Japan. There is a reason that some series go for 12 episodes...because it costs so much to make animation. They do not have large sponsors like Pixar or Disney in the states so every penny of profit counts for them. I mean seriously 10 bucks a month is nothing for simulcast and legality. Lol I would much rather pay 2 bucks on itunes then get a C&D from the RIAA suing me for ridiculously inflated damages.

However, judging from your vocabulary and vulgarity it would seem that you are just a pissed off little kid that wasn't hugged enough as a child. Oh wait haha you are 38? Get a life, stop trolling forums because seriously no one takes you seriously, and go back to school and learn how to properly compose a paragraph. "Son what did you learn in school today?" "I learned how to complain on the internet!"

AND back to the main topic: yea sucks about your situation but companies need money to make anime. Seriously one episode of one piece costs close to last time i checked 80000 dollars. Do the math 80000 dollars x 459 episodes. Now look at a CR premium membership...10 dollars per user....if you want to watch Bleach then A) use a proxy use a VPN C) Buy the dvds D) wait till it gets released for your country.

I seriously doubt that companies thought to themselves 'hmm I do not like Poland so you cannot stream it there" Most likely there is something on YOUR end that is the problem. Like if Polish TV acquired the rights to dub Bleach then CR can do nothing.
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