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Christianity 101: The Christian God
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Posted 6/23/10

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alupihan45 wrote:



that is the problem.

people think they are not offending God but they do. Even us, Christians offended/offending/ will offend God also but we can drop the worries about that because in God's 3rd convenant (Jesus Christ), He just forgives everyone. No more divine punishment like rain of fire.

Your business doesn't matter. About men spreading out in the cosmos, that was his first commandment, Genesis 1:28 "God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

And we don't stagnate. We are not like the Ommish people in america.

And there is no weird storytelling in the Bible.

and what do you mean " it is an insult to think we came from such a terrible vision" by this? I didn't comprehend this
You wanna know what the problem is? The fact that God "altered" His words three times just so that you can have no shame about you being born to rule under His name, that's what. And when the reality is that you can't proof God's existence beyond the metaphysics, this means that you Christians were the ones who "altered" your religion in order for you to enslave everything on Earth, yourselves included.


lol, at least were all in this together eh? peace over war
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Posted 6/23/10

alupihan45 wrote:

This is a bold decision that I made. I expect a lot of violent reactions and bloody comments and that is where i expect the Mod to intervene.

This thread is not to impose our belief but to defend our faith and to bust those misconceptions.

to the Mod: if it's off topic, please erase it immediately

anyway, this thread will only be limited about the Christian God. We will not tackle any other religious deity.

Christianity 101 would be in series so as to divide the topics in threads and to lessen confusion.

I expect other people to behave here properly. We will entertain questions about the TOPIC and nothing more.

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The One True God

Christian believes in one true God, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob and the father of Jesus (Jesus said we can call him "father", "teacher" and "master" also and that there shall be no other father, teacher and master.) All other gods are considered idols.

The attributes of God


God the Omnipotent (all powerful) - the Bible begs to disagree. God is a holy god so he cannot do evil.

Can God do all things? Let's ask the Bible - the biography of God.

Hebrews 6:18 " God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged."

The Bible said it. Can we question that furthermore? Some people may say, God can lie if wants too. I say no! Even God wants to he can't because "it is impossible for God to lie".

This is where the problem always arises also. People blame God for all the calamities, war and chaos in the world.

James 1:17 " Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

With that verse also, we can say that God did not, does not and will not change. He will never do any evil things

God the Omniscient (all knowing) - let's hear what the Bible says...

" And they have built the high place of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I did not command, nor did it come into my mind." (Jer. 7:30-31)

I think that is self explanatory

God is omnipresent (in all places) - what does the Bible says

Matthew 6:9 " "This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name..."

Focusing on God and sufferings of this world

This is the saddest part of life, people blame God for their misery but if you look closely, man's misery are not God made at all. It is human made.

Example, people are blaming God for their finances. Looking closely, this same people are the one who spends cash like their is no tomorrow. This same people are the one who passes out on financial opportunity like business and investment.

Also, this concept comes from duality- that if there is good, there is evil. Actually, that is not the case. There is good and their is an absence of goodness. In short, whatever suffering happens to a person is because of the absence of God in their life. Think about it.

Example, Death. People thinks this is evil but looking on the real picture, life is something we borrowed from God. Also, death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. You will never be hungry anymore, never be afraid, never be tired, never worry and many more. How cool is that?

How God responds to His people

Q: I prayed to God for lots of money but he never answers my prayer

A: It took me many years to realize this. Knowing God's word in the Bible, we will understand that He is willing to give it. What people fails to understand is, it will not come from the sky literally or you will just sleep and then when you wake up, you are rich.

God always prepares the receiver before a person can receive. I'll put myself as an example. God knows that if he will give me millions of money, I will spend it on a lot of crazy stuff and probably spend it all in a year...then back to be broke again. God will most probably send you teachers who can teach you how to manage your money, opportunities to attend seminars, read a business/investment book etc...before God will actually give you want you want.


Can god create a rock thats to heavy for him to left, and lift it anyway? peace over war
Posted 6/24/10 , edited 6/24/10

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i odnt believe slavery is wrong and immoral, i believe slavery has its place in societies of the past. I dont believe societies could fuction without slavery back then. Its just that Americans preception of what slavery is, is lacking for lack of a better word. peace over war
It's only the structural functionalists like yourself, who would think that slavery and inequality have their respectable places in today's society. If you think they're necessary for the betterment of human society, then why don't you join the ranks of modern day slaves for yourself? When you lack a sense of social justice.

And if you don't, then what gives you the rights to condemn other humans into a life of slavery? Simply by you making ambiguous claim as some sort of justification. When that's just not good enough.
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i odnt believe slavery is wrong and immoral, i believe slavery has its place in societies of the past. I dont believe societies could fuction without slavery back then. Its just that Americans preception of what slavery is, is lacking for lack of a better word. peace over war
It's only the structural functionalists like yourself, who would think that slavery and inequality have their respectable places in today's society. If you think they're necessary for the betterment of human society, then why don't you join the ranks of modern day slaves for yourself? When you lack a sense of social justice.

And if you don't, then what gives you the rights to condemn other humans into a life of slavery? Simply by you making ambiguous claim as some sort of justification. When that's just not good enough.


slavery and inequality do have thier places, which is why they have lasted as long as they did and continue to thrive today. The real quesion is why wouldnt you think so when all the evidence points toward this?

I cant even afford slaves. im to poor . Im a slave of the system myself. Im the victim here.

and besides- social contructs? social justice? what does that even mean? Those sound ambiguous to me.

The only people who have the "right" to condemn other people to slavery are the people who have the power to do so.
Power dictates function and morale. Societies are based on a hiearchy of power. The few and strong rule over the weak and many. The weak become slaves of the strong. There is no civilization or government process that has ever eluded this fate. Social justice is a modern myth within a society that practices everything but social justice. peace over war
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JJT2 wrote:


alupihan45 wrote:

This is a bold decision that I made. I expect a lot of violent reactions and bloody comments and that is where i expect the Mod to intervene.

This thread is not to impose our belief but to defend our faith and to bust those misconceptions.

to the Mod: if it's off topic, please erase it immediately

anyway, this thread will only be limited about the Christian God. We will not tackle any other religious deity.

Christianity 101 would be in series so as to divide the topics in threads and to lessen confusion.

I expect other people to behave here properly. We will entertain questions about the TOPIC and nothing more.

-------------------------------------------

The One True God

Christian believes in one true God, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob and the father of Jesus (Jesus said we can call him "father", "teacher" and "master" also and that there shall be no other father, teacher and master.) All other gods are considered idols.

The attributes of God


God the Omnipotent (all powerful) - the Bible begs to disagree. God is a holy god so he cannot do evil.

Can God do all things? Let's ask the Bible - the biography of God.

Hebrews 6:18 " God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged."

The Bible said it. Can we question that furthermore? Some people may say, God can lie if wants too. I say no! Even God wants to he can't because "it is impossible for God to lie".

This is where the problem always arises also. People blame God for all the calamities, war and chaos in the world.

James 1:17 " Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

With that verse also, we can say that God did not, does not and will not change. He will never do any evil things

God the Omniscient (all knowing) - let's hear what the Bible says...

" And they have built the high place of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I did not command, nor did it come into my mind." (Jer. 7:30-31)

I think that is self explanatory

God is omnipresent (in all places) - what does the Bible says

Matthew 6:9 " "This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name..."

Focusing on God and sufferings of this world

This is the saddest part of life, people blame God for their misery but if you look closely, man's misery are not God made at all. It is human made.

Example, people are blaming God for their finances. Looking closely, this same people are the one who spends cash like their is no tomorrow. This same people are the one who passes out on financial opportunity like business and investment.

Also, this concept comes from duality- that if there is good, there is evil. Actually, that is not the case. There is good and their is an absence of goodness. In short, whatever suffering happens to a person is because of the absence of God in their life. Think about it.

Example, Death. People thinks this is evil but looking on the real picture, life is something we borrowed from God. Also, death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. You will never be hungry anymore, never be afraid, never be tired, never worry and many more. How cool is that?

How God responds to His people

Q: I prayed to God for lots of money but he never answers my prayer

A: It took me many years to realize this. Knowing God's word in the Bible, we will understand that He is willing to give it. What people fails to understand is, it will not come from the sky literally or you will just sleep and then when you wake up, you are rich.

God always prepares the receiver before a person can receive. I'll put myself as an example. God knows that if he will give me millions of money, I will spend it on a lot of crazy stuff and probably spend it all in a year...then back to be broke again. God will most probably send you teachers who can teach you how to manage your money, opportunities to attend seminars, read a business/investment book etc...before God will actually give you want you want.


Can god create a rock thats to heavy for him to left, and lift it anyway? peace over war


that i do not know. I think it's out of our Bible. Anyway, it is already discussed in the post that the Christian God cannot do everything
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