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lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


Dragonbow0 wrote:

The World isnt perfect orange and frankly your topic is unimportant compared to other things we could be debating that have more practical application. Seeing as though I doubt you actually give a shit on the subject, and are just playing devil's advocate Im not going to argue with you anymore. I appreciate your help on the religous forums, becuase i share opinions with you but you obviously dont have an apreciation for culture.

The world may be a logical place as far as exsistance is concerned, but people and their emotions are not; therefore trying to practically apply scientific economics to culture is a lost cause as is telling people to stop breathing.


This actually takes priority over religion. While I would love to see a language saved, I would rather not have money wasted. If they want to learn it, they would learn it by through their own volition. I speak a useless dying language myself, and I admit it is useless and dying.


Wasting money on a language? alright, let me tel you something mister sister, your government is the one wasting billions of dollars every year on some stupid ass bombs and some stupid ass space stations...what have we gained from it other than "Did you know that there used to be water on mars?" yea, BIG DEAL!
If your so sure about your methods and so wise, why don't you go work as a president? I'm sure your "theories" will take place and action.
"Dying language" that's all you care about ha? you can't sleep because of that issue ha?
Go look at africans and indians building their houses every damn day because of nature disasters, orphans sleeping with diseases and no diapers bleeding from rashes, searching for damn food to eat every single day!
5 year old kids taking care of their dying moms and siblings! All because of what!? because of your stupid government wasting their stupid billions of money on creating massive super destructive bombs, and some stupid ass organizations..
You wanna help save the world?! Get your ass to work and help! not destroy "population" so that you can be happy.


Ah...poor dear sir, inflicted with an inability to use proper grammar or to speak coherently. Now, I did not say dying languages it on the top of the list, I am just saying that language is much more important to me than Religion. That is not to say that it is much more important than World Poverty, AIDS, and the myriad of other problems that affect the world. Now, dear Philistine, should I go the scientific implication that the existence of Water on Mars?

- Water=Possibility of Life. There may be life on Mars, yet undiscovered, and, thus, it is possible that our planet is not the only one out there this not only can sustain life, but does.

- Human colonisation- with the possibility of holding life, there is also the possibility of human habitation. That is to say, if we fuck up this Earth of ours, there is still Mars.

As for the bombs- while I certainly don't approve of wasting money upon a weapon that turns War into an artless game of 'Do I as I say or else', it is not the complete waste of money. With a super bomb, we can create a Pax Americana, peace due to the overriding superiority of the American Military might.

So, while my heart certainly bleed for those things you mention, I suppose you should actually read what I type before giving a tirade, irately and inanely accusing me of being either a fool or a heartless bastard.


Well I'm "sorry" if english is not my native language.
Anyways, we won't need that space program telling us where to live when we destroy our planet, do you even listen to your self? you said "if we fuck up this earth", I mean seriously, WE ARE fucking it up. not IF we fuck it up....now why the HELL are we destroying it?!
same goes for the stupid bomb.
Now I'm not calling you a "heartless bastard", I just don't think your theory is right -.- if you got a problem with people spending money on a language, then keep it your problem, it's not even your money that their wasting...
just like people spend money on useless things, this is another way to spend money -.-
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lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


Dragonbow0 wrote:

The World isnt perfect orange and frankly your topic is unimportant compared to other things we could be debating that have more practical application. Seeing as though I doubt you actually give a shit on the subject, and are just playing devil's advocate Im not going to argue with you anymore. I appreciate your help on the religous forums, becuase i share opinions with you but you obviously dont have an apreciation for culture.

The world may be a logical place as far as exsistance is concerned, but people and their emotions are not; therefore trying to practically apply scientific economics to culture is a lost cause as is telling people to stop breathing.


This actually takes priority over religion. While I would love to see a language saved, I would rather not have money wasted. If they want to learn it, they would learn it by through their own volition. I speak a useless dying language myself, and I admit it is useless and dying.


Wasting money on a language? alright, let me tel you something mister sister, your government is the one wasting billions of dollars every year on some stupid ass bombs and some stupid ass space stations...what have we gained from it other than "Did you know that there used to be water on mars?" yea, BIG DEAL!
If your so sure about your methods and so wise, why don't you go work as a president? I'm sure your "theories" will take place and action.
"Dying language" that's all you care about ha? you can't sleep because of that issue ha?
Go look at africans and indians building their houses every damn day because of nature disasters, orphans sleeping with diseases and no diapers bleeding from rashes, searching for damn food to eat every single day!
5 year old kids taking care of their dying moms and siblings! All because of what!? because of your stupid government wasting their stupid billions of money on creating massive super destructive bombs, and some stupid ass organizations..
You wanna help save the world?! Get your ass to work and help! not destroy "population" so that you can be happy.


Ah...poor dear sir, inflicted with an inability to use proper grammar or to speak coherently. Now, I did not say dying languages it on the top of the list, I am just saying that language is much more important to me than Religion. That is not to say that it is much more important than World Poverty, AIDS, and the myriad of other problems that affect the world. Now, dear Philistine, should I go the scientific implication that the existence of Water on Mars?

- Water=Possibility of Life. There may be life on Mars, yet undiscovered, and, thus, it is possible that our planet is not the only one out there this not only can sustain life, but does.

- Human colonisation- with the possibility of holding life, there is also the possibility of human habitation. That is to say, if we fuck up this Earth of ours, there is still Mars.

As for the bombs- while I certainly don't approve of wasting money upon a weapon that turns War into an artless game of 'Do I as I say or else', it is not the complete waste of money. With a super bomb, we can create a Pax Americana, peace due to the overriding superiority of the American Military might.

So, while my heart certainly bleed for those things you mention, I suppose you should actually read what I type before giving a tirade, irately and inanely accusing me of being either a fool or a heartless bastard.


Well I'm "sorry" if english is not my native language.
Anyways, we won't need that space program telling us where to live when we destroy our planet, do you even listen to your self? you said "if we fuck up this earth", I mean seriously, WE ARE fucking it up. not IF we fuck it up....now why the HELL are we destroying it?!
same goes for the stupid bomb.
Now I'm not calling you a "heartless bastard", I just don't think your theory is right -.- if you got a problem with people spending money on a language, then keep it your problem, it's not even your money that their wasting...
just like people spend money on useless things, this is another way to spend money -.-


English isn't my native language either--

So, if we don't have a space programme, how are we to determine the habitability of a planet?

As for the bomb, I already expounded the Pax Americana theory behind it.
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orangeflute wrote:


lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


Dragonbow0 wrote:

The World isnt perfect orange and frankly your topic is unimportant compared to other things we could be debating that have more practical application. Seeing as though I doubt you actually give a shit on the subject, and are just playing devil's advocate Im not going to argue with you anymore. I appreciate your help on the religous forums, becuase i share opinions with you but you obviously dont have an apreciation for culture.

The world may be a logical place as far as exsistance is concerned, but people and their emotions are not; therefore trying to practically apply scientific economics to culture is a lost cause as is telling people to stop breathing.


This actually takes priority over religion. While I would love to see a language saved, I would rather not have money wasted. If they want to learn it, they would learn it by through their own volition. I speak a useless dying language myself, and I admit it is useless and dying.


Wasting money on a language? alright, let me tel you something mister sister, your government is the one wasting billions of dollars every year on some stupid ass bombs and some stupid ass space stations...what have we gained from it other than "Did you know that there used to be water on mars?" yea, BIG DEAL!
If your so sure about your methods and so wise, why don't you go work as a president? I'm sure your "theories" will take place and action.
"Dying language" that's all you care about ha? you can't sleep because of that issue ha?
Go look at africans and indians building their houses every damn day because of nature disasters, orphans sleeping with diseases and no diapers bleeding from rashes, searching for damn food to eat every single day!
5 year old kids taking care of their dying moms and siblings! All because of what!? because of your stupid government wasting their stupid billions of money on creating massive super destructive bombs, and some stupid ass organizations..
You wanna help save the world?! Get your ass to work and help! not destroy "population" so that you can be happy.


Ah...poor dear sir, inflicted with an inability to use proper grammar or to speak coherently. Now, I did not say dying languages it on the top of the list, I am just saying that language is much more important to me than Religion. That is not to say that it is much more important than World Poverty, AIDS, and the myriad of other problems that affect the world. Now, dear Philistine, should I go the scientific implication that the existence of Water on Mars?

- Water=Possibility of Life. There may be life on Mars, yet undiscovered, and, thus, it is possible that our planet is not the only one out there this not only can sustain life, but does.

- Human colonisation- with the possibility of holding life, there is also the possibility of human habitation. That is to say, if we fuck up this Earth of ours, there is still Mars.

As for the bombs- while I certainly don't approve of wasting money upon a weapon that turns War into an artless game of 'Do I as I say or else', it is not the complete waste of money. With a super bomb, we can create a Pax Americana, peace due to the overriding superiority of the American Military might.

So, while my heart certainly bleed for those things you mention, I suppose you should actually read what I type before giving a tirade, irately and inanely accusing me of being either a fool or a heartless bastard.


Well I'm "sorry" if english is not my native language.
Anyways, we won't need that space program telling us where to live when we destroy our planet, do you even listen to your self? you said "if we fuck up this earth", I mean seriously, WE ARE fucking it up. not IF we fuck it up....now why the HELL are we destroying it?!
same goes for the stupid bomb.
Now I'm not calling you a "heartless bastard", I just don't think your theory is right -.- if you got a problem with people spending money on a language, then keep it your problem, it's not even your money that their wasting...
just like people spend money on useless things, this is another way to spend money -.-


English isn't my native language either--

So, if we don't have a space programme, how are we to determine the habitability of a planet?

As for the bomb, I already expounded the Pax Americana theory behind it.


First, we don't even know half of our own planet, why do we need to go so much further?
and second, it's a theory, you have so much more than just bombs, you got the useless viruses that could kill the whole human race, and it's leading for nothing..."oh look we have a bomb that will destroy the world, if you have a war against us we will kill the world" how very very predictable for a government to say.
Let's say that only 2 countries in the world have got a massive destroying bomb...what will happen then if these 2 countries fight? they will bomb the world and see if jesus comes to help us?
Basically, I'm just saying, if they wanna waste money on a language then go ahead be my guest, better than wasting that money on some stupid gun to kill someone like they do in the USA....kids having guns...or these terrorist bombing their 9 year old kids....
Wasting money on a language is the smallest issue on the list of thousands of things that the government is wasting money on.
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lalouse wrote:

Well I'm "sorry" if english is not my native language.
Anyways, we won't need that space program telling us where to live when we destroy our planet, do you even listen to your self? you said "if we fuck up this earth", I mean seriously, WE ARE fucking it up. not IF we fuck it up....now why the HELL are we destroying it?!
same goes for the stupid bomb.
Now I'm not calling you a "heartless bastard", I just don't think your theory is right -.- if you got a problem with people spending money on a language, then keep it your problem, it's not even your money that their wasting...
just like people spend money on useless things, this is another way to spend money -.-


Earth really isn't that bad, i mean sure its not perfect, but it could be much worse, and actually has been much worse lol. Earth has been a barren desert with virtually no life on it for about 20 million years, ever hear of the Permian-Triassic extinction event ? Earth recovered beautifully from that. So earth could be much much worse, and us humans would still probably survive it in large enough numbers to repopulate, humans are like cockroaches lol. We can survive anything even all out nuclear war. Even if we destroyed the planet in an all out nuclear way, Earth would recover just fine, in no time flat too, maybe just a few hundred thousand years. Planets are hard core survivors, Earth has survived, multiple global scale asteroid impacts, multiple thousand+ year long ice ages, multiple global scale super volcanoes. Even if we humans fuck it up and we all die off, Earth will recover. we just wont.


The Earth can recover from anything us humans can do to it, Humans might not tho. Earth has recovered an event that killed 99% off all life on it. I think it will be fine. Humans not so much, but Earth yes.
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lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


lalouse wrote:


orangeflute wrote:


Dragonbow0 wrote:

The World isnt perfect orange and frankly your topic is unimportant compared to other things we could be debating that have more practical application. Seeing as though I doubt you actually give a shit on the subject, and are just playing devil's advocate Im not going to argue with you anymore. I appreciate your help on the religous forums, becuase i share opinions with you but you obviously dont have an apreciation for culture.

The world may be a logical place as far as exsistance is concerned, but people and their emotions are not; therefore trying to practically apply scientific economics to culture is a lost cause as is telling people to stop breathing.


This actually takes priority over religion. While I would love to see a language saved, I would rather not have money wasted. If they want to learn it, they would learn it by through their own volition. I speak a useless dying language myself, and I admit it is useless and dying.


Wasting money on a language? alright, let me tel you something mister sister, your government is the one wasting billions of dollars every year on some stupid ass bombs and some stupid ass space stations...what have we gained from it other than "Did you know that there used to be water on mars?" yea, BIG DEAL!
If your so sure about your methods and so wise, why don't you go work as a president? I'm sure your "theories" will take place and action.
"Dying language" that's all you care about ha? you can't sleep because of that issue ha?
Go look at africans and indians building their houses every damn day because of nature disasters, orphans sleeping with diseases and no diapers bleeding from rashes, searching for damn food to eat every single day!
5 year old kids taking care of their dying moms and siblings! All because of what!? because of your stupid government wasting their stupid billions of money on creating massive super destructive bombs, and some stupid ass organizations..
You wanna help save the world?! Get your ass to work and help! not destroy "population" so that you can be happy.


Ah...poor dear sir, inflicted with an inability to use proper grammar or to speak coherently. Now, I did not say dying languages it on the top of the list, I am just saying that language is much more important to me than Religion. That is not to say that it is much more important than World Poverty, AIDS, and the myriad of other problems that affect the world. Now, dear Philistine, should I go the scientific implication that the existence of Water on Mars?

- Water=Possibility of Life. There may be life on Mars, yet undiscovered, and, thus, it is possible that our planet is not the only one out there this not only can sustain life, but does.

- Human colonisation- with the possibility of holding life, there is also the possibility of human habitation. That is to say, if we fuck up this Earth of ours, there is still Mars.

As for the bombs- while I certainly don't approve of wasting money upon a weapon that turns War into an artless game of 'Do I as I say or else', it is not the complete waste of money. With a super bomb, we can create a Pax Americana, peace due to the overriding superiority of the American Military might.

So, while my heart certainly bleed for those things you mention, I suppose you should actually read what I type before giving a tirade, irately and inanely accusing me of being either a fool or a heartless bastard.


Well I'm "sorry" if english is not my native language.
Anyways, we won't need that space program telling us where to live when we destroy our planet, do you even listen to your self? you said "if we fuck up this earth", I mean seriously, WE ARE fucking it up. not IF we fuck it up....now why the HELL are we destroying it?!
same goes for the stupid bomb.
Now I'm not calling you a "heartless bastard", I just don't think your theory is right -.- if you got a problem with people spending money on a language, then keep it your problem, it's not even your money that their wasting...
just like people spend money on useless things, this is another way to spend money -.-


English isn't my native language either--

So, if we don't have a space programme, how are we to determine the habitability of a planet?

As for the bomb, I already expounded the Pax Americana theory behind it.


First, we don't even know half of our own planet, why do we need to go so much further?
and second, it's a theory, you have so much more than just bombs, you got the useless viruses that could kill the whole human race, and it's leading for nothing..."oh look we have a bomb that will destroy the world, if you have a war against us we will kill the world" how very very predictable for a government to say.
Let's say that only 2 countries in the world have got a massive destroying bomb...what will happen then if these 2 countries fight? they will bomb the world and see if jesus comes to help us?
Basically, I'm just saying, if they wanna waste money on a language then go ahead be my guest, better than wasting that money on some stupid gun to kill someone like they do in the USA....kids having guns...or these terrorist bombing their 9 year old kids....
Wasting money on a language is the smallest issue on the list of thousands of things that the government is wasting money on.


First, the studies of our own planet belong to a very different science, that is, I don't know, also funded by the government.

Second, it has historical precedents, such as Pax Romana, Pax Britannia, &c.

If two countries have such weapon, conflict with said country is avoided thanks to the Mutually Assured Destruction Doctrine, or MADD, which basically mean that, in an event of a war, both side will only destroy each other, regardless of first shot, because both side have the weapons and capability to do so. This guarantees that the big Bomb will never be used, just as in the Cold War.

So, both are better investments than a culturally significant but otherwise useless language.
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Why indeed,waste of time, money and effort.Goverment actually has to PAY people to speak it(and i bet they dont bother their arse).Really just for tourists and makes school miserable.Replace primary school irish with spanish or frecnh,german anything useful.It is such a waste that the best years of your life for learning a language are wasted on Irish,when you could be bettering your chance for a job with an asian or poper european language.It should at least be OPTIONAL but of course the irish language nazis wont allow it.aAll they create is disdain for the language by forcing it on everyone.All that money spent on signs and documentation in both languages is insane.Plus getting in getting a job it wont be accepted as they want a living language so its completly useless.And 3 of the provinces all speak different versions of it.Plus most of the angry letters in the newspapers defending the language from being made optional or taken of the syllabus are from bloody Americans!.The only time I see young people using it is to make silly comments about the IRA or brits out and stuff in general along those lines.I look forward to the day it dies out for good
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