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Is Japan a sick country, with it's Lolicon/hentai/teen idols media?
Posted 6/24/10
I guess I post one thing, most hardcore otakus prefer 2d woman and or have some mental disability. The type of people that look at hard core loli porn are usually people that never leave house unless they go to akibia for doujins or to their job/school. Most of these men are so afraid of woman they will not even touch or even approach one in real life so there isn't a threat there. I will be honest If I really wanted to I could draw loli porn but I just prefer cute lolis like the one in my profile...
Posted 6/24/10 , edited 6/24/10

FryingGuy wrote:

Also, what you are proposing is an encroachment of our civil rights. We should have the right to draw what we feel like. This idea of making content like that illegal, is just stupid. I could be seated on the toilet taking a dump and drawing some breasts on a piece of paper and accidentally drawn the body of the female too small due to the fact I can't draw very well. So by doing that, the police can bust in and arrest me for having illegal pieces of art. What the hell? Why are you attacking a minority of people like this? They don't deserve to suffer due to your self-righteousness. What illegal act has lolicon and stuff like that ever done to anyone? Is it actually dangerous? If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. Jeez.


True, it would be an encroachment of our civil rights... but to let something like lolicon slip through the system, just because it goes against our civl rights is wrong, imo.

The example that you gave of you drawing a char etc.... well here is my response.... Have you ever seen lolicon? I unfortunately have due to people in anime communities, having an interest in it, posting it... you can clearly tell what it is when you see it... there is really no way to draw it unintentionally imo.

Lolicon allows individuals to fantasize about children (whether they are drawn or what, they are a depiction of a child) in a sick, inappropriate way.. This is why I'm against it.

Since this is a community of anime lovers, there is bound to be people who like lolicon as well.... so my argument points will mean little to few.... however, I guarantee if you were to show the general public (or the majority who have no interest in anime) a lolicon picture, they would agree with me that it's wrong and should be illegal.


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In other countries the legal age differs, just something to think about,

and otaku does not translate to pedophile in literal term japanese. yet another thing wrong with your post.

im going to wager your american no? or at least living here? well as you can probably see all around you 'our' crime rate for pedophilia is far, far, higher than in japan, you should keep your mouth shut and do something about it here at home! you idiot.


Me being American has nothing to do with it. There are people all around the world who think lolicon is wrong...

I am against it already here in the USA... and im glad they made lolicon illegal here... as for pedophiles, they are everywhere.... and the more people there are in a country, the higher its statistics will be.... Japan is a small country...

There is only so much the general public can do, against pedophiles... it's not something you can do anything about, unless you are a policeman/fbi/etc...so by actively expressing my views on it, whenever it is brought up, i am doing all that a person can realistically do

"you should keep your mouth shut and do something about it here at home! you idiot."

What happened to keeping things civil.... you are clearly an individual who isn't mature enough to handle these kind of serious discussions, please don't post in my topic again (a request not a demand, I know you are free to post here if you want).
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Posted 6/24/10
Just face it Japan isn't the only one like that. Have you ever watched the Simpsons Movie. There is a scene where Bart is running naked down the road and gets stopped by the police. I have not heard one complaint about that scene in America. I think you make a big deal out of it because it is coming from another country. If it came from your country you wouldn't be saying that. There is also a movie you can buy on blu ray and dvd where high school girl do sexual deeds to married men. It doesn't show anything but you can imply. You don't hear anyone complaining about that movie. Why make a biggy when Japan does it when the rest of the world is doing it too. Face it, it is only cartoons anyways so if you got a biggy about the shows then don't watch it. The biggest thing is you called otaku's pedophile. I have one biggest thing is you must be a pedophile too because I bet you watched enough anime to know about this. Does this make you a pedophile too then? I will tell you this much Spongebob Squarepants is just as bad as some of these animes are. Just keep in mind Spongebob is a kids show but it shows spongebob in his underwear and even less so what does this say to the spongebob kids. What are their future by your books?
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Posted 6/24/10
I think japan is one of the safer countries...have you seen america?
Posted 6/24/10

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Just face it Japan isn't the only one like that. Have you ever watched the Simpsons Movie. There is a scene where Bart is running naked down the road and gets stopped by the police. I have not heard one complaint about that scene in America. I think you make a big deal out of it because it is coming from another country. If it came from your country you wouldn't be saying that. There is also a movie you can buy on blu ray and dvd where high school girl do sexual deeds to married men. It doesn't show anything but you can imply. You don't hear anyone complaining about that movie. Why make a biggy when Japan does it when the rest of the world is doing it too. Face it, it is only cartoons anyways so if you got a biggy about the shows then don't watch it. The biggest thing is you called otaku's pedophile. I have one biggest thing is you must be a pedophile too because I bet you watched enough anime to know about this. Does this make you a pedophile too then? I will tell you this much Spongebob Squarepants is just as bad as some of these animes are. Just keep in mind Spongebob is a kids show but it shows spongebob in his underwear and even less so what does this say to the spongebob kids. What are their future by your books?


"Have you ever watched the Simpsons Movie. There is a scene where Bart is running naked down the road and gets stopped by the police. I have not heard one complaint about that scene in America."

The problem is the way the material is being presented... with lolicon, it is purposely sexual/provocative.... with the simpsons, im sure it was for humor (the simpsons is a comedy show afterall). There is clearly a big difference, so I won't go into further detail about my opinion on it.

As for the movie you mentioned... I never heard of such a movie, but I am against such a story for a movie...

And if you are tryign to make a point that Japan isn't the only one with an error in their ways..... I agree. But most of this stuff, like I already said, is coming out of Japan..

" I think you make a big deal out of it because it is coming from another country."

You are incorrect in your assumption....I have a problem with it everywhere.... but this material is coming out of japan mostly.....

"The biggest thing is you called otaku's pedophile. I have one biggest thing is you must be a pedophile too because I bet you watched enough anime to know about this. "

I shouldn't have called all otaku's pedo's... Most of the otaku's I have spoken to online/ or meet in real life, like very very young anime chars, and sometimes admit to liking lolicon... which is why i believe most to be, but not all.... whether you think it is wrong for me to think this, I will let you decide... I usually do not form my opinions of people, based only on my experiences alone.... but i guess this is pretty much the only time I do so...I would say the internet is what gives the main foundation for my opion on otaku's.

As for calling me a pedophile, whether you are being serious, or not, this is not true.... I simply know of this horrible stuff through my time searching online for anime/manga (to dl or stream), before CR became a legit anime stream site. Also, I consider myself very knowledgeable of many things on the internet due to the fact I spent a large amount of time on my PC, my High School years... and still a decent amount of time even after HS...
Posted 6/24/10


Sigh i told myself I wouldn't do this but.. most people that are like that either have no interest in females what soever or they do not wish to ever procreate or have sex with an another person. I have stated before that I am lolicon but I would never hurt a child or woman for that matter if i did I would kill myself from the guilt that I was feeling if I did anything. The thing about lolicon is that there isn't a child involved in the drawing they are just some images some one thought up in their head and to be honest i have seen a lot of stuff on the net and loli porn looks like a midget having sex but hey that's just me... sigh
Posted 6/24/10

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Sigh i told myself I wouldn't do this but.. most people that are like that either have no interest in females what soever or they do not wish to ever procreate or have sex with an another person. I have stated before that I am lolicon but I would never hurt a child or woman for that matter if i did I would kill myself from the guilt that I was feeling if I did anything. The thing about lolicon is that there isn't a child involved in the drawing they are just some images some one thought up in their head and to be honest i have seen a lot of stuff on the net and loli porn looks like a midget having sex but hey that's just me... sigh


"most people that are like that either have no interest in females what soever or they do not wish to ever procreate or have sex with an another person. "

Who are you referring to, with that statement? me? you? or the person i quoted?

" The thing about lolicon is that there isn't a child involved in the drawing they are just some images some one thought up in their head and to be honest i have seen a lot of stuff on the net and loli porn looks like a midget having sex but hey that's just me... sigh"

True, there isn't a REAL child involved.

" just some images some one thought up in their head "

I'm not so sure about that..... lolicon is meant to depict a child... and that's the problem I have with it....even if it's not a real child


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Posted 6/24/10
Well every culture/country has different ways of doing things in my opinion the US is way sicker. McDonalds and obese people
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Posted 6/24/10

MikeN427 wrote:


FryingGuy wrote:

Also, what you are proposing is an encroachment of our civil rights. We should have the right to draw what we feel like. This idea of making content like that illegal, is just stupid. I could be seated on the toilet taking a dump and drawing some breasts on a piece of paper and accidentally drawn the body of the female too small due to the fact I can't draw very well. So by doing that, the police can bust in and arrest me for having illegal pieces of art. What the hell? Why are you attacking a minority of people like this? They don't deserve to suffer due to your self-righteousness. What illegal act has lolicon and stuff like that ever done to anyone? Is it actually dangerous? If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. Jeez.


True, it would be an encroachment of our civil rights... but to let something like lolicon slip through the system, just because it goes against our civl rights is wrong, imo.

The example that you gave of you drawing a char etc.... well here is my response.... Have you ever seen lolicon? I unfortunately have due to people in anime communities, having an interest in it, posting it... you can clearly tell what it is when you see it... there is really no way to draw it unintentionally imo.

Lolicon allows individuals to fantasize about children (whether they are drawn or what, they are a depiction of a child) in a sick, inappropriate way.. This is why I'm against it.

Since this is a community of anime lovers, there is bound to be people who like lolicon as well.... so my argument points will mean little to few.... however, I guarantee if you were to show the general public (or the majority who have no interest in anime) a lolicon picture, they would agree with me that it's wrong and should be illegal.


So you would seek to control people's minds and alter them towards your own opinion? Come now, certainly you aren't that malevolent. As for the common interest of everyone, yeah, people would side with you that's why I stand on the opposite side, so that they won't lose to the majority opinion. And yes, once you turn it into illegal material, any amount of similar incidents such as a misconstrued picture could easily become evidence to indict someone. The laws are used most often to get fines from the people, so it would most likely be used this way as many other laws are as well. If you have a problem with people phantasizing about sex with children, then would you rather them actually doing it? Sometimes the lesser of two evils is a much more viable option then trying to eliminate the evil in its entirety, plus it can't be done. Humans have and always will have pedophiles, not all pedophiles act on their desires of course so why should they pay for it?
Posted 6/24/10

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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:



Sigh i told myself I wouldn't do this but.. most people that are like that either have no interest in females what soever or they do not wish to ever procreate or have sex with an another person. I have stated before that I am lolicon but I would never hurt a child or woman for that matter if i did I would kill myself from the guilt that I was feeling if I did anything. The thing about lolicon is that there isn't a child involved in the drawing they are just some images some one thought up in their head and to be honest i have seen a lot of stuff on the net and loli porn looks like a midget having sex but hey that's just me... sigh


"most people that are like that either have no interest in females what soever or they do not wish to ever procreate or have sex with an another person. "

Who are you referring to, with that statement? me? you? or the person i quoted?

" The thing about lolicon is that there isn't a child involved in the drawing they are just some images some one thought up in their head and to be honest i have seen a lot of stuff on the net and loli porn looks like a midget having sex but hey that's just me... sigh"

True, there isn't a REAL child involved.

" just some images some one thought up in their head "

I'm not so sure about that..... lolicon is meant to depict a child... and that's the problem I have with it....even if it's not a real child




I am referring to the norm of hardcore otaku's in japan. They have no interest in real woman and will never have any interest all they want to do is sit in-front of computer or TV all day and masturbate to cartoon images. In order to depict a real child they would have to look like one 1st. most don't even look like a real child due to the over exaggeration of hips, butt, thighs, head size and so forth. Sigh we have a disagreement on this and that's fine we could argue back and forth all day and never come to an agreement. That is what opinions are based on. I will leave you to this tread, it is yours after all.
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Posted 6/24/10
I like how most of the first posts attack everything that he mentioned except these words:
teen dolls media

And also, GusJustGus1 is fucking awesome for their post.

But what is the best part is the lol that comes from people bringing up civil rights. If you care enough then stop trying to tell someone that what they believe would be right is wrong, there is no right or wrong, just perspective. Two sides are just holding different view, and they blame each other for it. Plus if you really care about your civil rights you should be trying to keep all the ones you have now before they're taken away in this material world.

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Posted 6/24/10
look mikeN427 what would you rather happen a pedo look at harmless pictures where a child hasnt been involved at all or to ban it then all those ppl who where keeping there problem in check get sexualy frustrated then go out and find picture/vids involving real kids getting violated or even worse go out and do it them selves?
look if youve got such a problem with it youve 2 real choices

1. look at the reason why this bothers you to such a extent and get it sorted so you can live a happy anime life
or
2. stop watching and reading anime/manga all together becuase i garuntee youll see more of the same thing in the futer

as for my oppinion i cant stand it and think lolicon/shoticon hentai (actual graphic scenes not panty shots) is disguting but i prefere that to real chidren getting hurt
Posted 6/24/10

CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

I am referring to the norm of hardcore otaku's in japan. They have no interest in real woman and will never have any interest all they want to do is sit in-front of computer or TV all day and masturbate to cartoon images. In order to depict a real child they would have to look like one 1st. most don't even look like a real child due to the over exaggeration of hips, butt, thighs, head size and so forth. Sigh we have a disagreement on this and that's fine we could argue back and forth all day and never come to an agreement. That is what opinions are based on. I will leave you to this tread, it is yours after all.


"Sigh we have a disagreement on this and that's fine we could argue back and forth all day and never come to an agreement. That is what opinions are based on."

Well put, I wish everyone could be civil like you.
Posted 6/24/10

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look mikeN427 what would you rather happen a pedo look at harmless pictures where a child hasnt been involved at all or to ban it then all those ppl who where keeping there problem in check get sexualy frustrated then go out and find picture/vids involving real kids getting violated or even worse go out and do it them selves?
look if youve got such a problem with it youve 2 real choices

1. look at the reason why this bothers you to such a extent and get it sorted so you can live a happy anime life
or
2. stop watching and reading anime/manga all together becuase i garuntee youll see more of the same thing in the futer

as for my oppinion i cant stand it and think lolicon/shoticon hentai (actual graphic scenes not panty shots) is disguting but i prefere that to real chidren getting hurt


Sounds like you are saying for the lesser of two evils.... though I don't like it, you might have a point... though there is no real way of telling the kind of impact a ban would cause.... This world is such a horrible place
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Posted 6/24/10 , edited 6/24/10
finaly we agree on somthing the world is a trulyy distubing place that covers all evil by making compromises on a lesser evil but unless they find pandora where ill be on the first ship to become a navi that what weve got

my quote of the day : Life is not about being good or evil but about being less evil then the next person so you seem good
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