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Have you ever defended yourself against an attack?
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Chained_Angel wrote:

I like the fact that I was wasted and yet could defend myself against 4 attackers. I would have liked to see what I would have done sober.


Don't change your actions, just your thinking;
Defending yourself is one thing, but practicing martial arts an entirely different thing.
It's actually turning the other cheek and keeping your craft hidden until your life is actually being threatened.
All your training has been for you to be able to endure pain, deal with ignorant violence as such.
And in your case of 8 years of training, you sound like a proud bully instead of a keeper of peace.
Few see the martial training of the mind
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Yup! I was mugged by a group of guys
Unlike most of you, I got my ass kicked..
Someone hit me in the head with a pole or
something that felt like a pole, I was knocked
out then they took my money.. But I only had
about 30 dollars on me, so sucks to them lol.
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I never had to pull my gun, but I did lean on the hilt once and the guy left. I have been in several fights. I used to teach all the women I know self defense. My ex-wife called to thank me, it saved her life one night though she refused to say how. A lady I taught years ago and her friend were abducted at gunpoint. This lady's friend was raped. The lady I taught used the opportunity to attack the man while he was ... busy ... and got them both away. Knowing basic defensive techniques is important.

There is no better defense than a good offense. For the novice there should only be three targets: eyes, throat, and knees. Do not attempt groin shots -- it will give an adrenaline rush to some attackers and make the situation worse. The eyes, throat, and knees are sensitive targets and damaging these will physically disable an attacker regardless of that attacker's tolerance for pain. Body shots and punches are completely useless against most attackers unless you are extensively trained. In a situation when you must defend yourself, do not fear getting blood on your hands. Take a salad fork to the attackers throat. Take a chair to the attackers head. Use your fingers to gouge out an attacker's eyes. Drop your body weight on your attacker's knee. There is no such thing as fighting dirty in self defense. If it is worth fighting for, it is REALLY worth fighting for. If it isn't REALLY worth fighting for, you shouldn't be fighting in the first place.
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Not rly.
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Posted 9/7/10

dark_paradox_21 wrote:

There is no better defense than a good offense.


Or running; confrontation should be your last option at all times

Posted 9/8/10 , edited 9/8/10

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Chained_Angel wrote:

I like the fact that I was wasted and yet could defend myself against 4 attackers. I would have liked to see what I would have done sober.


Don't change your actions, just your thinking;
Defending yourself is one thing, but practicing martial arts an entirely different thing.
It's actually turning the other cheek and keeping your craft hidden until your life is actually being threatened.
All your training has been for you to be able to endure pain, deal with ignorant violence as such.
And in your case of 8 years of training, you sound like a proud bully instead of a keeper of peace.
Few see the martial training of the mind


I am not a "proud bully" I find it extremely offensive to be called that when I've lived to defend against people like that I was just saying it would be interesting to see without the effects of alcohol. Simply a comparison -__- but I am proud of myself actually and I have the right to be. I could have been raped or killed but I defended myself and didn't let it bring me down too much that night, I was upset but I pulled myself together and carried on enjoying with my friends whereas I could have sulked all night and been mentally scarred. That to me is strength and worthy of pride, not what I did to defend myself, not letting the cruel world have an effect on your life and being able to move on. It takes a strong mind to do that and strong minds are superior.




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Being a little bit drunk may have helped you, if you had been completely sober, you might not have done as well. Being a bit drunk may have kept you calmer, because your mind might have not perceived the same threat level than if you were sober. I've been in two types of self defense situations 1) non life threatening and 2) life threatening. I won't go into the details of the story for these, they are actually kinda long, the 1st situation was a bar confrontation (not really a fight, since it kinda ended without much incident) and 2nd was in Iraq.

When you perceive a threat, depending on how much of a threat your mind thinks it is, your body actually reacts a certain way. A threat level where you might get hurt, but aren't in any real danger (almost akin to riding a roller coaster or watching a scary movie) will raise your heart rate, your body will produce adrenaline, muscles will tense up, senses sharpen and focus. If you ever heard the term fight or flight, this is your body in fight mode (the perceived threat is considered fight-able). When you perceive the threat as life threatening, similar thing happens, except your heart rate is much higher, your body pulls blood from your limbs to your organs (which will cause shakiness, loss of fine motor control, possibly loss of bowel control), adrenaline goes off the charts, and now your senses are more jumbled than focused. It's likely you will freeze up for a minute and everything will seem like it's moving in slow motion... fear and panic are common. This is your body in flight mode. In this mode a martial arts that require fine motor skills (like karate, taekwondo, aikido) is completely useless. Your best bet in these situations is to 1) calm yourself down enough to fight mode 2) learn to fight in this mode (krav maga, muay thai, jiujutsu have moves that are suitable for this) 3) run.

I think you did a good job handling yourself, keep being proud of being able to defend yourself, but try and avoid situations where you end up having to defend yourself, some may not turn out quite as well. The best defense is to be with friends (take a friend with you whenever you're in an unfamiliar or shady area, even to get money or go to the bathroom). I hesitate to suggest getting a gun or some other weapon unless you plan on taking some training courses with it, pepper spray and tasers are better choices, still the best self defense is not being there in the first place.
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I do psychological damage, which is much MUCH worse. (especially if you got me pissed)

But when it comes to physical, I have big guy friends who help me.

I quit Taekwondo early to study ballet and hula. (which I quit after one or two years I think.. And yes I know it's really farfetched lol, so I ended up with guitar, piano and singing)
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Chained_Angel wrote:

I am not a "proud bully" I find it extremely offensive to be called that when I've lived to defend against people like that I was just saying it would be interesting to see without the effects of alcohol. Simply a comparison -__- but I am proud of myself actually and I have the right to be. I could have been raped or killed but I defended myself and didn't let it bring me down too much that night, I was upset but I pulled myself together and carried on enjoying with my friends whereas I could have sulked all night and been mentally scarred. That to me is strength and worthy of pride, not what I did to defend myself, not letting the cruel world have an effect on your life and being able to move on. It takes a strong mind to do that and strong minds are superior.




Of course you'd think that, sorry for not being clear;
I started off stating not to change your actions, I herald you for your performance that night.
It's that one sentence that wonders about a comparison in sober instance that irks me.
If you did this well whilst not being sober, the massacre that could have been is just plain cruel as well as irrelevant, do you see me now?
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yeah, i kicked his balls... literally!
lucky for me though he doesn't have reinforcements or...
well, let's just say they might do some nasty things to you...
Posted 9/8/10 , edited 9/8/10
Thankfully I haven't o__o

But I do have an amusing story, whereby one of my friends was surrounded by a group who made him sit on the floor to intimidate him.
They asked him for his money and phone and he said he didn't have them with him. But just as he said that his phone rang. (lulz)
They told him to answer it and so he did. Then they asked who it was and he said "it's my mom."

So they ran. LULZ.

Aaah, your mother helps you out of some deep pickles.
Posted 9/8/10

DirEnGay wrote:

You've got a very vivid imagination child.


If you were referring to Chained_Angel's experience you are very rude and mean!
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where are the knives and guns?
you guys all talk about simple fights,
of course,it can be difficult if there are to many
or the guy is too big,but what about weapons?
the only fights that are stuck to my head are those
with weapons involved,nothing scares you more
or lets you panic more then a gun in front of you or a knife to
your throat.


and about chained angel:
wanna go get drunk sometime?wanna see you in action.
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Lemonii wrote:


Chained_Angel wrote:

I like the fact that I was wasted and yet could defend myself against 4 attackers. I would have liked to see what I would have done sober.


Don't change your actions, just your thinking;
Defending yourself is one thing, but practicing martial arts an entirely different thing.
It's actually turning the other cheek and keeping your craft hidden until your life is actually being threatened.
All your training has been for you to be able to endure pain, deal with ignorant violence as such.
And in your case of 8 years of training, you sound like a proud bully instead of a keeper of peace.
Few see the martial training of the mind



Depends on what the focus of your training is. Ethics isnt really taught a lot in the dojos of the USA. Its barly touched on. So everyone has different morals of when and when not to use violence to solve an issue. This also depends on what community you grow up in. If you grow up in a high crime area, you may want to shoot first and ask questions later.

In more crime free communities, you could reason with the criminal there and avoid violence alltogether.


On topic: I have been bullied all my school life. From random unprovoked attackes to planned fights after school. I never had a serious altercation, but i train four days a week (up to 6 hours a day) to prepare for one.

Im also a pretty big and gentle guy, so people just dont mess with me, and even as a child, i was able to talk a few of the bullies out of fighting me. peace over war
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Nope I have never been attacked OR really in any kind of street fight. But then again I do boxing, and if someone tried attacking me I'd be sure to punch them in the face many times.
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