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Have you ever defended yourself against an attack?
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Posted 9/8/10

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Being a little bit drunk may have helped you, if you had been completely sober, you might not have done as well. Being a bit drunk may have kept you calmer, because your mind might have not perceived the same threat level than if you were sober. I've been in two types of self defense situations 1) non life threatening and 2) life threatening. I won't go into the details of the story for these, they are actually kinda long, the 1st situation was a bar confrontation (not really a fight, since it kinda ended without much incident) and 2nd was in Iraq.

When you perceive a threat, depending on how much of a threat your mind thinks it is, your body actually reacts a certain way. A threat level where you might get hurt, but aren't in any real danger (almost akin to riding a roller coaster or watching a scary movie) will raise your heart rate, your body will produce adrenaline, muscles will tense up, senses sharpen and focus. If you ever heard the term fight or flight, this is your body in fight mode (the perceived threat is considered fight-able). When you perceive the threat as life threatening, similar thing happens, except your heart rate is much higher, your body pulls blood from your limbs to your organs (which will cause shakiness, loss of fine motor control, possibly loss of bowel control), adrenaline goes off the charts, and now your senses are more jumbled than focused. It's likely you will freeze up for a minute and everything will seem like it's moving in slow motion... fear and panic are common. This is your body in flight mode. In this mode a martial arts that require fine motor skills (like karate, taekwondo, aikido) is completely useless. Your best bet in these situations is to 1) calm yourself down enough to fight mode 2) learn to fight in this mode (krav maga, muay thai, jiujutsu have moves that are suitable for this) 3) run.

I think you did a good job handling yourself, keep being proud of being able to defend yourself, but try and avoid situations where you end up having to defend yourself, some may not turn out quite as well. The best defense is to be with friends (take a friend with you whenever you're in an unfamiliar or shady area, even to get money or go to the bathroom). I hesitate to suggest getting a gun or some other weapon unless you plan on taking some training courses with it, pepper spray and tasers are better choices, still the best self defense is not being there in the first place.


thats all very good advice EXCEPT for the fine motor skills stuff. I train in karate, taekwondo, muay thai, and jujutsu regularly. They ALL require fine motor skills. MOST martial arts do, except for the few self defense arts that are derived from those arts that revolve around eye gouges, knees, throat shots. (Ie world war two combatives,self defense classes, krav maga (maybe), southern kung fu (i think) ect. Punches and kicks are considered fine motor skills. We dont punch and get everyday. You have to be trained to punch and kick properly. Jujutsu even more so. A football tackle is not a jujutsu take down. Those are skills there that must be trained. peace over war
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Yeah, I had to a couple of times.
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Posted 9/8/10

arano wrote:


where are the knives and guns?
you guys all talk about simple fights,
of course,it can be difficult if there are to many
or the guy is too big,but what about weapons?
the only fights that are stuck to my head are those
with weapons involved,nothing scares you more
or lets you panic more then a gun in front of you or a knife to
your throat.


and about chained angel:
wanna go get drunk sometime?wanna see you in action. :P


Depends on what country your from. Those asian countries have very strict gun laws. America on the other hand hands out guns to children on a regular basis. It also depends on what community you go to. I know in some parts in America, you go to one part of town and the ground is litterally flooded with shells of bullets. You hear gun shots every five minutes. Someone is shot to death every week.

On the other hand you can go to a dry college campus were weapons aren't allow and you may get attacked by a 124 pound girl with a knife over a parking space. she doesnt want to kill you, just cut you up.

So guns and knifes simply aren't available in all areas. Just try bringing a gun into a bar or crowded place. It will do you no good. You will shoot everybody BUT your target. And the cops will come and kill you.

But bring a gun into your car and you're a lot safer. see where im going with this? peace over war
Posted 9/8/10
I was walking in broad daylight (basically not expecting ANYTHING to happen) and this person at my back tried to snatch my cellphone as I was casually holding in my right hand. Without thinking, I grabbed his hand and "knee"-d with my left leg.
It was luck which is why I'm motivated into taking martial arts (Muay Thai specifically).
Posted 9/28/10
I'm going to have to do it many times for the 3rd dan gradings Christmas time. Shitting myself! I really don't think I'm ready but I always say that and come out on top
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Posted 9/29/10

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dark_paradox_21 wrote:

There is no better defense than a good offense.


Or running; confrontation should be your last option at all times



Running should be a last resort, not a first choice. In the event that someone is unstable enough to attack you without provocation, then running will do little good. When you cave to a threat or terrorist action even once, you open the door for it to happen again and again. I'm not talking about schoolyard scuffles here. I'm talking about real life. In real life when bad guys know that you'll cave, you will forever be a target.
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dark_paradox_21 wrote:

Running should be a last resort, not a first choice. In the event that someone is unstable enough to attack you without provocation, then running will do little good. When you cave to a threat or terrorist action even once, you open the door for it to happen again and again. I'm not talking about schoolyard scuffles here. I'm talking about real life. In real life when bad guys know that you'll cave, you will forever be a target.


Oh hell yeah, running sure fails if you don't get away!
Posted 9/29/10

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dark_paradox_21 wrote:

Running should be a last resort, not a first choice. In the event that someone is unstable enough to attack you without provocation, then running will do little good. When you cave to a threat or terrorist action even once, you open the door for it to happen again and again. I'm not talking about schoolyard scuffles here. I'm talking about real life. In real life when bad guys know that you'll cave, you will forever be a target.


Oh hell yeah, running sure fails if you don't get away!


Exactly.

Scenario:

Your held at knife-point, you can't run the attacker's instant reaction will be to cut/stab you. Same with a gun, you run, you get shot.

However:

Scenario:

Unarmed attack, there is a clear opening. Running works.
Posted 9/29/10
I have never taken a self defense course but I was very athletic in high school. That came in handy my senior year when I went to a party out in the woods by the river. I was a little drunk and had been flirting with this guy that I kind of liked. We decided to get away from the party for a little make out session, but I guess he decided it should be more than just a little kissing. We were on the bank of the river, lying in the grass when he started to get very forceful. I told him no but he wouldn't get off me. We were struggling but I managed to bring my leg up in between us and my foot up against his stomach. I pushed him with all my lower body strength. Because we were on the bank of the river the slant downwards did the rest and he tumbled into the water. When I got back to the party I told people what had happened for 2 reasons: 1.I didn't want the guy to drown in the river at night. and 2.I didn't want him to try bragging that he nailed me when actually it was attempted rape. It taught me a lot but mainly that even if I liked a guy I wasn't going to let him force me into anything.
Posted 11/3/10

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I have never taken a self defense course but I was very athletic in high school. That came in handy my senior year when I went to a party out in the woods by the river. I was a little drunk and had been flirting with this guy that I kind of liked. We decided to get away from the party for a little make out session, but I guess he decided it should be more than just a little kissing. We were on the bank of the river, lying in the grass when he started to get very forceful. I told him no but he wouldn't get off me. We were struggling but I managed to bring my leg up in between us and my foot up against his stomach. I pushed him with all my lower body strength. Because we were on the bank of the river the slant downwards did the rest and he tumbled into the water. When I got back to the party I told people what had happened for 2 reasons: 1.I didn't want the guy to drown in the river at night. and 2.I didn't want him to try bragging that he nailed me when actually it was attempted rape. It taught me a lot but mainly that even if I liked a guy I wasn't going to let him force me into anything.


First of all, that is a fantastic thing you did and shows true kindness, even though he tried to rape you, you still cared as a human being.

This a perfect example of the brute strength through adrenaline we gain when we are afraid. Even though you're untrained, your experience here has proven that you don't need always need training to do really well in a self defense situation.
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Posted 11/3/10

Chained_Angel wrote:

So, if anyone does self defense, have you ever had to use it in a situation?

I was out with some friends in University and this drunk guy started to come onto me and his drunk friends surrounded me aswell, I was about to meet some friends in a club because I wondered off on my own to draw money out and then they called me so I was on my way to meet them. I was all alone with these freaks, I told him to get lost but he just kept grabbing me. I'm very patient so I just tried to shake him off he was like "oh come on, come back with me" I was like "Fuck off!" he just wouldn't back off. The last straw was when he had me around the waist really tight and he grabbed one of my boobs. I do Ninjutsu and Aikido so I grabbed his wrist, twisted it to remove him from me, and performed a quick and easy throw. He was drunk so it was easy, I was lucky he wasn't sober because he was a really big guy and I'm only small so it was good that he was so unstable. Once he was down, one of his friends tried to grab me too! I've been trained to remain calm in any situation so I kicked him in the face as he was coming towards me, my lack of fear at the time allowed me to react very quickly and the adrenaline rush was an even greater help. Luckily some really nice guys came over and protected me so I didn't have to fight anymore. I don't get phased during situations, but afterwards I was really upset so the nice man held my hand and took me to meet my friends because I wasn't exactly sober either I met good and evil that night >_< who knows what they would have done to me. I was so happy to see my friends and hugged the guys who came to help me even if you think you are a decent fighter, you can always use an extra hand, especially if your a girl and your attackers are 4 6ft+ men.

I would love to hear your stories and see if anyone has had a similar experience, and it will help you put it behind you by talking about it.


Of course i have been...but showed them their place pretty soon!^^...but i felt sorry for them in the end~~
Posted 11/3/10
I did Teakwondo for three years, I had an okay instructor but he was lazy and a cheapskate. We had our belts given to us by word and not the actual thing. I was still a yellow or blue belt when I left though I can't remember a thing except for some kicks. I never had to use it in an actual fight. Apart from petty school brawls I can't think of any serious situation.
Posted 11/3/10

AdamIdris101 wrote:

I did Teakwondo for three years, I had an okay instructor but he was lazy and a cheapskate. We had our belts given to us by word and not the actual thing. I was still a yellow or blue belt when I left though I can't remember a thing except for some kicks. I never had to use it in an actual fight. Apart from petty school brawls I can't think of any serious situation.


Thats too bad has this caused you to lose faith in martial arts? If so, don't let a bad instructor get in the way of your learning. There are plenty of fantastic schools out there, search websites and look at your local ones, it should list everything about the instructor. Taekwondo is the most aerobic martial art of all, so the fact he was lazy just shows he was in it for the money and nothing more. Find a style you really like, visit Dojo's and sit in on a lesson to see what the instructor is like.
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AdamIdris101 wrote:

I did Teakwondo for three years, I had an okay instructor but he was lazy and a cheapskate. We had our belts given to us by word and not the actual thing. I was still a yellow or blue belt when I left though I can't remember a thing except for some kicks. I never had to use it in an actual fight. Apart from petty school brawls I can't think of any serious situation.


Thats too bad has this caused you to lose faith in martial arts? If so, don't let a bad instructor get in the way of your learning. There are plenty of fantastic schools out there, search websites and look at your local ones, it should list everything about the instructor. Taekwondo is the most aerobic martial art of all, so the fact he was lazy just shows he was in it for the money and nothing more. Find a style you really like, visit Dojo's and sit in on a lesson to see what the instructor is like.


No loss in faith toward martial arts because of sensei. He was always punctual and while being a cheapskate still worked everyone hard. It'll be a while cause if I did go back to any type of martial arts, at the time being I wouldn't be into it. For now anyway I'll work the grooves in my chair with anime.
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Yeah, when this boy decided to beat me up with a big plastic water gun at his birthday party! I had bruises for a month or two!
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