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What do you think about the EMS?
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Posted 6/25/10 , edited 6/25/10
Danger: Loads of Spoilers Ahead


Just like the title says. Sasuke's new power, the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan.

On chapter 488 of the manga, we finally see an almost blinded Sasuke enter the operation room. The objective: transplant the eyes of his older brother, Itachi.



Sasuke's Mangekyo Sharingan has been peculiar, having a black backround with a red design, contrary to the other users.


While browsing the net, I also found out that both Itachi and Sasuke's Mangekyo has three powers:


The Amaterasu- The "ultimate" ninjutsu
The Tsukoyumi- The "ultimate" genjutsu
The Susanoo- Rare technique of the Mangekyo Sharingan.

It hasn't been shown what are the real powers of the brothers aside from the three. Madara stated that these powers can be born in all Mangekyo. But Kakashi's Mangekyo has a special technique, Kamui, which can send any object into another dimension.

I noticed that Itachi controls the Amaterasu with his right eye, and Tsukoyumi with his left eye, while Sasuke on the other hand controls Amaterasu with his left eye and Tsukoyumi in the right.

In the manga, Sasuke is seen to have greater mastery over Amaterasu, while Itachi's Tsukoyumi is more powerful.

I'm just wondering how these things can affect Sasuke's EMS that will soon be revealed. What's your thoughts, guys?
Posted 6/25/10 , edited 6/25/10
Damn it, I read it, at least the first sentence. Say:

STOP





Please do not read ahead for your own sake if you cherish your anime and desire not to spoil it for yourself.








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In all honesty, I have no idea , I also have no idea how strong Saskue is going to become after this operation, as of right now Madara has an EMS but has never used it in the current timeline, he was weakened by the Shodai Hokage and we have yet to see his EMS since then, so far we have only seen his standard three tome Sharingan. So it's safe to say that he is not at full strength, even Madara admits it, and now Saskue will have to same (if not better) ocular powers Madara had when he first obtained his EMS. I definitely think, like you said earlier, Saskue's EMS power will more than likely amplify his already ferocious offensive capabilities, rather than his genjutsu skills, but we can only guess what new kind of powers he will have...
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Posted 6/26/10 , edited 6/27/10

Vman410 wrote:

In all honesty, I have no idea , I also have no idea how strong Saskue is going to become after this operation, as of right now Madara has an EMS but has never used it in the current timeline, he was weakened by the Shodai Hokage and we have yet to see his EMS since then, so far we have only seen his standard three tome Sharingan. So it's safe to say that he is not at full strength, even Madara admits it, and now Saskue will have to same (if not better) ocular powers Madara had when he first obtained his EMS. I definitely think, like you said earlier, Saskue's EMS power will more than likely amplify his already ferocious offensive capabilities, rather than his genjutsu skills, but we can only guess what new kind of powers he will have...


Well, that's what I'm thinking too. The further amplification of the Amaterasu and Tsukoyumi, and of course, Sasuke will be getting an upgrade of the Susanoo. Remember that Itachi's Susanoo had those two epic weapons? If Sasuke will get them, lol he's powerful enough even without a special skill.
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that's hard. if you think that his powers will just be strengthened by getting his bro's eyes, maybe its valid. but maybe he'll get another special skill and all, just like kakashi's warp objects power.
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Posted 7/2/10 , edited 7/2/10

AdamIdris101 wrote:

Damn it, I read it, at least the first sentence. Say:

STOP





Please do not read ahead for your own sake if you


cherish your anime and desire not to spoil it for yourself.








....blah blah


I think: Danger: Loads of Spoilers Ahead was clear enough lol
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Posted 7/10/10 , edited 7/10/10
interesting topic
um well itachi is better in using Tsukoyumi than Sasuke. I think Sasuke is better at using Amaterasu and manipulating it.
I say maybe Sasuke's new EMS will have an improved Tsukoyumi since its itachi's eye.

Im not Sure but when Sasuke was fighting Danzo his Susanoo didnt have the Sealing Sword and the Mirror Shield but if Susanoo didnt have them maybe he will? since itach had it
Posted 5/13/11 , edited 5/13/11


cherish your anime and desire not to spoil it for yourself.








....blah blah


I think: Danger: Loads of Spoilers Ahead was clear enough lol :D

I swear they only just put that up moments after me.

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we can only do assumptions at best, since no one not even Madara has Shown the power of the EMS as of yet. But I do agree all the MS powers will receive an upgrade in strength level.

also imo Susano'o is a mix of Genjutsu and Ninjutsu since you need both the Ninjutsu and Genjutsu eyes of the MS in order to cast it, Genjutsu creates the image and Ninjutsu makes it reality similiar to how Izunagi works
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Yeah, I agree with that.

Sasuke even incorperates Susano'o into a genjutsu to incapacitate C/Shee during his attack on the Five Kage Summit.
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Yeah, I agree with that.

Sasuke even incorperates Susano'o into a genjutsu to incapacitate C/Shee during his attack on the Five Kage Summit.


that was Tsukiyomi, Susano'o is more of an outer Illusion Genjutsu mixed with Ninjutsu, it's not an inner Illusion which can be used to incapacitate others like Tsukiyomi can, in essence Genjutsus have two catagories and 5 types.

the Catagories are Inner Illusions and Outer Illusions

the 5 types are based on how they are activated through which sense, this is mainly Inner Illusions since Outer Illusions just creates Images in the area which effects everyone within range but are ussually harder to tell are Genjutsus unlike Inner Illusions which you know your in an illusion and breaking out of it is harder then dispeling outer Illusions, people who possess Dojutsus can tell with out trying when an Outer Illusion is active.
Sight- almost all Genjutsus shown that aren't Outer Illusions falls here this includes Tsukiyomi which is an S-class Genjutsu
Sound- only three genjutsus have been shown in this activation catagory
Smell- Have not shown any genjutsus as of now
Touch- has not shown Genjutsus of this activation catagory
Taste- same with Touch and Smell based Genjutsus and has yet to be shown.

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I know it was Tsukyomi, but he still incorporated Susano'o's form into the illusion. It's an image of terror and he exploited it.

I think touch is used in Genjutsu, if touch counts as pain. Kakashi had to endure 72 hours of being stabbed by multiple Itachis... we presume. However, the lack of touch in a genjutsu may come in useful, like when Itachi fooled Deidara into wrapping himself in his own explosives. In that case, it seemed to have removed the sense of touch.

Izanagi is different from most Genjutsus, it involves the user putting themselves in an illusion so that they can make deaths or injuries mere imaginations. Danzo was able to keep it up for 10 minutes, with the use of a Sharingan eye for a minute each. I assume that once he has won a battle that involved using Izanagi, Danzo can simply use other eyes from his own secret stash to replace his stock.
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No genjutsu was activated through Touch, Tsukiyomi was activated through sight once activated an Inner Illusion Genjutsu effects all senses

Izunagi has two effects the first is making Genjutsu reality the other is making reality an Illusion, what Danzo did was create an outer Illusion then used Izunagi to make it real. what Madara did was use Izunagi to turn the Paper Bombs into an Illusion in order to survive the 10000 paper bombs Konan used on Madara in essence saving Konan and Himself from being killed which ended with Madara killing Konan anyways

Tsukiyomi can make any image appear so it's no surprise it showed the image of Susano'o
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Posted 5/16/11 , edited 5/16/11
well we dont know yet. one thing that we do know is that Sasukes vision will NEVER blur again or even go blind. Im sure its going to be a MAJOR upgrade to his sharingan, and overall powers.
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