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Gundam has changed
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Gundam has changed...for the "gay-er"
i love gundam wing but from there on, gundam was a relationship between teenage boys...and cagalli
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gundam 00 was good. gundam seed/destiny was horrible cuzz of KIRA (hate him). gundam wing was ok. the thing i wish is the plot change a little.
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Unicorn rocks. It brought back the old with new awesomeness


Yeah it does. I'm impatiently waiting for more of it. That's what sucks about OVAs though the waiting in between.
Posted 7/6/10 , edited 7/6/10

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really sorry for the trouble but thanx alot, now im gonna know why my classmate likes the death scythe alot
seeing the list its seems its gonna be a one big story... so excited


Well each Gundam series is self-contained, it has a main story that it starts and ends during the frame of a single series. It's not one story but rather 25+ different ones. Some of them just happen to contain some of the same characters or take place in the same universe.

The Deathsythe is a Gundam Wing Mobile Suit by the way.


Oh damn so far away... i started at the very first since you went to a trouble of remembering it all thats the least i can do... so far i really like it cause battles are strategic even its only a little...

what made me love the anime is:
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master_funk wrote:

I like Gundam 00 and gundam seed/destiney


You poor, poor soul....

I guess that's the world we live in though. If you wish to redeem yourself, go find Mobile Suit Gundam and watch it start to finish. Then, watch every other UC series to understand just how pitiful the current line of Gundam series are(with exception of Gundam Unicorn).
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Everybody complains about Seed Destiny but it's really not as bad as people make it out to be. It's still watchable and it's not like it's the worst anime out there. Heck there are even lamer Gundam series like that abomination SD Gundam Force.
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varnlestoff wrote:


blue_banana wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

Wing... it became all about pretty boys the Girls could have yaoi fantasies about. Despite the fact they were a merciless collection of terrorists.


Haha this is so true. The newer Gundam series so far have been disappointing, although I admit I havnt seen Unicorn yet but I'm not holding much hope.

For me, Gundam ended with Seed/Destiny.


Unicorn rocks. It brought back the old with new awesomeness


Hmm maybe I'll give it a try then. I was so demoralised by 00 I didn't want to watch another one, but on your recommendation I'll pick it up.
Was getting withdraw symptoms from lack of good mecha anyway.
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A bunch of people are hesitant to watch the older UC series simply because of the lower quality animation...they forget...IT WAS MADE IN 1979!!! x_x Of course it'll look "bad" by today's standards...it was AWESOME back then, but that's not the point. The point is to enjoy the battles AND the story, character development, etc.


As said, it really started dropping with Wing and compounded by SEED, SEED Destiny, and a bit of 00 by...

1.) Making battles VERY one-sided (with characters only really "losing" either for story convenience and/or as an excuse to give them an even BETTER MS, even when it's unnecessary like Kira getting the Strike Freedom). Basically, it seems to be all about flashiness rather than "realism".

2.) Most main pilots are pretty boy types for all the yaoi-lovers.

3.) Most females appear weak and can only talk in the long run and/or end up failing a lot (no offense to females) whereas UC has a number of strong female pilots/characters (like Emma Sheen, Lila, Mouar, Reccoa, Londe, Roux Louka, Haman Karn, Lalah Sune, Katejina Loos, etc, etc).

4.) A lot of plotshielding/plotholes. Like for Wing, Heero and others in their Gundams vs. Leos...1 vulcan bullet could hit the Leo in their foot and it'd magically explode. However, put Heero and others in those same types of Leos (like in Endless Waltz), and they can magically take 1000x more damage with only scratches to show for it. How many times have Leos had their arms sliced off and exploded, yet Heero's arm gets sliced off by Altron and gets a big hole sliced into the chest while Duo takes god-knows-how-many gatling gun shots in his Leo by Trowa in the Serpent and all you see are a bunch of bullet dents whereas if you put a nameless grunt in Duo's place, it'd die in just a second.

5.) In connection to 1 and 4, grunts showing no real skill at all. While yes, UC also does show a lot of them get shot down, at least they don't seem to just sit there and do nothing while being shot at most of the time.



While I'm not anti-AU (alternate universe) as I DO really like G Gundam, Gundam X (wish its length didn't get cut from 50 episodes to 39), and Turn A Gundam, I don't really see that much appeal in Wing, SEED, SEED Destiny, and a bit of 00. All I really liked mostly was the MS/MA designs (and even some of those were a stretch like SEED Destiny). The characters, battle balance, and such...eh...

Though, SEED Destiny was really down there because...

1.) Rapidly declining (repeated) plot. (Naturals vs. Coordinators vs. Three Ships Alliance.)

2.) Bringing the SEED cast back as the main characters, making the INTENDED main character (Shinn) into a lame, angsty, RAGE, flip-flopping (a "hero" one battle, then a "villain" next) little lapdog.

3.) The series ends up becoming SEED 2.0 (or SEED: ZAFT Edition given how ZAFT is made to look more like the good guys over the Alliance at first, then ending up as NEITHER side being "good" and only the Three Ships Alliance being the "good" ones);

Gundam prototypes getting hijacked, only from the opposite side this time.

Sting, Auel, and Stellar = Shani, Clotho, and Orga (Druggies)

Shinn and Stellar = Kira and Flay (in terms of the whole "spiritual talking" bit)

Neo-GENESIS (extremely lame)

Djbril = Azrael

Mwu blocking a Positron Cannon (and with everyone having nearly the exact same facial expressions)

Three Ships Alliance (Archangel mostly) intervening in battles and giving speeches.

(Strike) Freedom and (Infinite) Justice and their METEORs spamming the battlefield.

(Strike) Freedom vs. Providence (Legend)


4.) Copied UC MS designs to various degrees...ZAKU Warrior, GOUF Ignited, DOM Trooper, Destroy Gundam (mix of the Big Zam and Psyco Gundam)...the Savior Gundam and the Murasames are pretty much Zeta Gundams.

5.) Characters don't really develop and are virtually exactly the same as from SEED. (And those that look hopeful, like Shinn a couple times, only end up taking a step forward, then 3 steps back.)

6.) The usual plot-shielding, plotholes (like the Akatsuki), stock footage (episodes), and other things.



...so yeah...Gundam has changed...and usually not for the better (Unicorn being a saving grace). I also blame the order of Gundam being shown outside Japan too. Starting with Wing was a mistake, IMO.
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Everybody complains about Seed Destiny but it's really not as bad as people make it out to be. It's still watchable and it's not like it's the worst anime out there. Heck there are even lamer Gundam series like that abomination SD Gundam Force.


haha sd gundam force ...wow that was just ....
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tamsheed3 wrote:


Kruszer wrote:

Everybody complains about Seed Destiny but it's really not as bad as people make it out to be. It's still watchable and it's not like it's the worst anime out there. Heck there are even lamer Gundam series like that abomination SD Gundam Force.


haha sd gundam force ...wow that was just ....


Yes. It's what you get when you try to dumb down Gundam for the kiddies. Utter rubbish.
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dude i personaly think that gundam seed desitiny is the best

The drama the action omg .... Its overwhelming

Tru gundam 00 is somewhat creative but its just somewhat based on the predecesor (WING)

i like the classic gundams better realy have you ever compared them

Their face looks completely diffrient

Example Freedom and exia

Exia looks modernized
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